Please add a proper PVM way to get VP .

[cutsman]

The purpose of BS is to cap points to win, with the reward being VP.

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this is why we can't have nice things.

[Pafpuf]

Rename it to CappingStation. I find it hilarious when someone runs through a dozen or more people fighting just to click the point.

[Colawren]

My attention span didnt let me read all the posts but I will say, I'm pretty sure BS is primarily capping to win VP but the challenge is to kill and not be killed in the process. Rather than killing being the actual primary goal.
And yeah, theres people who dont fight. Maybe cos theyre some of the people who dont like PVP and just want VP, maybe cos they know attacking would be a pointless waste of time cos they know theyll just be swinging/firing away to no avail. Alot of us have to farm VP at at least one point in our toons lives. Also, Im sure the amount of people who join BS just for kills/titles is higher if not equal to the amount of VP farmers 90% of the time. For tl5/7 bs anyway..

But I have to agree, a PVM option for farming VP would be awesome, since alot of people miss out on ofab simply cos they hate PVP or alot of people find BS farming a really frustrating thingy cos they just get instakilled over and over (me).

[Uaintseenme]

Is this perhaps an RK1 thing?
when its actualy running (not as often as it used to admitedly) i find no shortage of people to kill or be killed by.

While i think a viable alternative to VP farming *should* be introduced for people who dislike pvp i also see that as the death of BS completely.
There are few enough people joinign BS these days as it is, if you lose all the pvm cannon fodder getting a round started will take a whole lot longer.

[meatybtz]

Is this perhaps an RK1 thing?
when its actualy running (not as often as it used to admitedly) i find no shortage of people to kill or be killed by.

While i think a viable alternative to VP farming *should* be introduced for people who dislike pvp i also see that as the death of BS completely.
There are few enough people joinign BS these days as it is, if you lose all the pvm cannon fodder getting a round started will take a whole lot longer.

Thats more an argument that PVP in AO isnt as much fun as it should be nor are as many people doing it that once did rather than a MUST KEEP THE FODDER RANKS UP! I'd rather have more pvpers than more fodder. Fodder is a bandaid to cover over the real problem.

[Sterva]

Or.... FC can change the way BS works. Not by capping, but by actually counting kills. Say you need 200 kills on clan or omni side to win the BS round. Capping is so 2008!

this makes more sense than the OP imo.

[IHaveHugeNick]

this makes more sense than the OP imo.

I dont know, i just wanted all PvMers to GTFO from BS, so us PvPers can have a quiet place only for us, where we dont have to pretend we are such ruthless vicious killers, where we could spend some quite time hugging each other and talking about last album of Avril Lavigne.

[Amortia]

Add more battleship like areas please. I never liked the design of the BS... Wtb some city like layouts and stuff.

[Tiamin]

Add more battleship like areas please. I never liked the design of the BS... Wtb some city like layouts and stuff.

What he said

[Blessed]

Sometimes there are 2-4 people just coon cap'ing all over the place. Trick is to find the other 4-6 people that will actually engage in some fighting. It's not a behavior that can be prevented unless they finally make it impossible to cap a point with any 1k+ absorbs running.

Silly since new enf layers have 1371 absorb and its pure buff:P unless beside coon nerf now u fully wanna cancell our buffs too:P maybe enfo should run around nekid and with tatoo''shoot da fattie'' on our foreheads....

[cutsman]

Silly since new enf layers have 1371 absorb and its pure buff:P unless beside coon nerf now u fully wanna cancell our buffs too:P maybe enfo should run around nekid and with tatoo''shoot da fattie'' on our foreheads....

that's a slippery slope you're standing on there.

[Blessed]

that's a slippery slope you're standing on there.

Not rly we alrdy deserve tatoo like that due to sync issues anyhow:P

[K1nkstaah]

To be honest I've noticed Punk sitting with a zerg (I guess 5-6 players in a team) in mid, and clan players tend to be cluey enough to simply run around them, and cap A/C/B, because they know going to mid is pointless when it's 6v1-2.

Then every now and then someone will cap mid and away goes the game

If you guys split up and run solo I am sure you will find

a) battles over cap points
b) people

Though, I've only noticed this in say a handful of BS, so punk gathering 4+ players in mid and then being ignored may not happen all the time. I dont know. I play on a strange timezone to europeans. In general, I've found 99% of people do try and fight me, the people that run off and only cap points are almost ALWAYS players who have bad gear, are 215, or do not realisitically pose a threat and have an 0% chance of winning a 1 on 1 encounter with whoever happens to be chasing them.

And really you just cant blame them.

[Kaylinne]

And clan nevah run in zergs with strategically placed little doctors and stuff

[Berinda]

Why there is a 25% zone inside then? Why there are mechs and turrets?

In order to kill people and thus stop them from capping points, because capping points in turn allows them to win.

If you'd exercise reading comprehension, you'd realize that I'm not saying people should just run around and cap; I'm saying the point is to be the first side with 500 points. In order to do that, you need to kill opposing players and cap points. Or annoy opposing players with coon and cap points.

The point is to not run around and PvP while giggling about your kill count going up, though that's an option.

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this is why we can't have nice things.

Every time I run into you, I regret having helped you on my doc on a few occasions.

[Kaylinne]

I must admit..... we had such a nice little war going on today and I wouldnt mind it lasting bit longer...... if some retard didnt take advantage of everyone being occupied with killing each other and capped us all back to waiting queue

[K1nkstaah]

And clan nevah run in zergs with strategically placed little doctors and stuff

I'm not saying they dont, but I am saying if you get a big squad together and camp mid, I have started to see the opposing side adapt by just ignoring mid and capping and killing people at the other points

Worth mentioning when I usually play BS is no bigger than 6v6

[Gunfytr]

I must admit..... we had such a nice little war going on today and I wouldnt mind it lasting bit longer...... if some retard didnt take advantage of everyone being occupied with killing each other and capped us all back to waiting queue

qft

[Smasherr]

He's partly right. You know how when you zone from A to C, sometimes you can tab a clam over the portal to B, but you don't go after him, you just turn right to cap C ? Or how when you're heading to core to help taking it back, if some clam just zoned, you ignore it and still go to core, cause it's more importand than C for that particular moment ?

Only happens when 1 side is really down on points, pvp persuing would just result in getting zerged and you need some points. The solution is a balanced number battlestation, obviously, which FC should've implemented. When 1 side has 3 times the number of the others, which FC allows, it isn't fun for anyone. Blame FC, not the players.

[Hacre]

To be honest I've noticed Punk sitting with a zerg (I guess 5-6 players in a team) in mid, and clan players tend to be cluey enough to simply run around them, and cap A/C/B, because they know going to mid is pointless when it's 6v1-2.

Then every now and then someone will cap mid and away goes the game

If you guys split up and run solo I am sure you will find

a) battles over cap points
b) people

Though, I've only noticed this in say a handful of BS, so punk gathering 4+ players in mid and then being ignored may not happen all the time. I dont know. I play on a strange timezone to europeans. In general, I've found 99% of people do try and fight me, the people that run off and only cap points are almost ALWAYS players who have bad gear, are 215, or do not realisitically pose a threat and have an 0% chance of winning a 1 on 1 encounter with whoever happens to be chasing them.

And really you just cant blame them.

I can see this.

I've been privy to a very entertaining inside scoop. When Punk show up to BS, it's usually in numbers (my org chat makes it very clear, for one thing, tells from friends either bitching (if clan) or loling (if Omni) for the other) and they decimate the place.

So this results in people either avoiding Punk members, because if there's one, there's usually more just around the corner, or flat out avoiding them because they're annoying and it's far more productive to cap something else.

If people like Nick want more people to actually fight, stop showing up with Trader/NT/Doc in tow and actually fight by yourself. No one is going to be stupid enough to try and take on 4-6 of you.