Fix The Shot in next patch??

[egadsrk2]

http://forums.anarchy-online.com/sho...4&postcount=36

This post was directed at Monique personally, regarding The shot, six months ago, by Silirrion. It does speak about two subjects. One of them is The Shot.

He humbled himself to speak directly to them and say The Shot is what it is.

On your bike.

[Blackcradle]

@egadsrk2 : Let's see...given that all your posts are always against agents, regardless of the cause.... AND the fact that you yourself said you 'hate agents' and dont care about their status kind of negates any stupid and/or irrelevant, post you make - which predictably, are all your posts. Also if you can feel free to take a trip on the back-to-the-future-reality-check-train if you'd like and only then you'd realize lots of things were said the by the former game directer, that never came into fruition.

Take your bike, strap yourself to it, and ride it off a cliff. You and all the 'usuals' on these threads is getting old; especially when you're generally uninformed as to what the REAL issue is.

[Chrys]

@egadsrk2 : nya nya nya im not listening!!

Ok.

[heartless888]

This is the thread about fixing a dmg perk.

It is not the thread about giving agents CiB, Bio Sheilding and better heals.

You do check the thread title before posting these days right?

Or was your post more like one of those Jedi mind trick things? : "these are not the driods you are looking for"

oh i know that, it was changed at the same time as the opi blind which was awesome back then on my MA, so what?


i said what i said because these agents here try to back up their argument about TS by saying they are assassins, i only pointed out that no agent really cares about being an assassin or not, lets face it, once again ill name him again, those that WANTS to be REAL assassins, either play shades (yeah i went there) or make a setup like cortez


i mean seriously, if they made TS useable from sneak, they would have to make all perks useable from sneak too, the fact you guys WANT to think you are assassins dosnt mean you should be the only ones able to do that



when i see an agent go toe to toe vs almost everyone and win, its far from the idea i have of *assassin*


buttom line is, i dont think agents are assassins, esp since 17.8 where most of them only sneak when they portal hop


i dont think the casual AS on people at 30% hp in city or at towers makes them assassins.

[Blackcradle]

@ Chrys: you've had nothing legitimate to say on any agent thread, glad you finally stopped trying and realized it.

@H888: You, and seemingly anyone else who already is predisposed in some way, fail to realize that the 'cortez alpha' while effective, ONLY WORKS EVER SEVEN MINUTES, YES I SPELLED OUT THE NUMBER HOPEFULLY THIS WILL GET THROUGH SOMEHOW. Yes it's a great way to kill, yes it's also extremely situational and relies on predictable, contrived situations, yes it requires a bunch of IP, even though we have GREEN SA OMG.

Even if the shot will still not be usable from sneak in the future, ever again, I think lots of us agents are just requesting that other perks ( a lot) and nukes which can potentionally take away 90% of others hp not be useable from sneak as well. The thing everyone fails to realize is that in in current state the shot doesnt work like ANY other ai perks. I'd be fine if it unsneaked me upon execution or failure but i does neither. I mean it seems like NTs/solds sneak more than agents now... something is wrong with that, especially NTs.

[egadsrk2]

I don't hate agents. And I'm not against agents.

I'm against stupidity. And this argument is stupid. It was stupid six months ago. It's still stupid now. And in another six months when you're still flippin' whining about it it'll still be, you guessed it, stupid.

Get used to it. The Shot in its current form is here to stay.

[Ayria]

Get used to it. The Shot in its current form is here to stay.

I'm sure that was said before it got changed, and before it got changed again...

And stupid is a matter of opinion. In my opinion you're being stupid by thinking that how things are are how things are intended to be or will always from this day forth be intended to be, knowing full well that things like that have been said in the past and yet changes to The Shot have still occurred again and again.

Stupidity is denying fact, not opinion. It is your opinion that things will stay as they are or that things are as they should/intended to be. There is no fact in that, and we are not stupid for disagreeing with you.

[egadsrk2]

If it changes again it won't be from your actions. And it wont be any time soon. You (people complaining about the shot) have been ignored for how long now?

[Pheddy]

One thing why those Agents that are 220/30/70 are still playing their toons is.... we never give up easily, and so wont we on this topic!

i said what i said because these agents here try to back up their argument about TS by saying they are assassins, i only pointed out that no agent really cares about being an assassin or not, lets face it, once again ill name him again, those that WANTS to be REAL assassins, either play shades (yeah i went there) or make a setup like cortez

waawaa.. i r haev see video of ubah godmode agent, you are haev can do all better!!!

you kidding me?

i mean seriously, if they made TS useable from sneak, they would have to make all perks useable from sneak too, the fact you guys WANT to think you are assassins dosnt mean you should be the only ones able to do that

how you want us to counter? the fact that you guys are DD dealing Tanks doesnt mean you should be the only ones beeing that? lol man, get some arguments up your roof man... its common logic what a soldier does, and what an agent does. and if common logic doesnt fit into your brain, read the damn character desciptions, thx.

you guys dont wanna be assassins, you guys wanna tank 6 people and then cry on forums about it if it dosnt work.

man, youre trying to argue with us w/o even reading thru what we write... tanking 6 + people is what FC forces us to do because all our perks have such a slow execution time, that we have to jump around like a fool until the execute. "if" they execute and we are still alive, you can be sure, if the agent knows his job, the target is dead. that is not the issue!!!

we have stated more then once, that a working ofense toolset will be much more welcome then evades or absorbs or w/e dream you came up with

and no, i dont call gimping myself to heaven for PE+Booster+Dimach every 7 minutes and fialing 40% of the gangks due to unrelieable booster and / or short range of PE and lag issues a viable choice to get where id like to get near.

@ Chrys: you've had nothing legitimate to say on any agent thread, glad you finally stopped trying and realized it.

thats so true, i dont even answer his crap anymore...


Edit: watched cortez video, and most ganks involved dimach as well... that would be all 30 minutes.. AWESOME, ima be an assasin!1!1!!

[Cyberleet]

you guys dont wanna be assassins, you guys wanna tank 6 people and then cry on forums about it if it dosnt work.

And now you know what people think? Talk about being disrespectful

I understand it sucks to be you Heart,-
- but trying to ruin threads and class-improvements/fixes for other classes to solve your problems won't help.

Sorry, we're getting tired of people that only troll threads and talking about class-issues for a class they don't play.

those that WANTS to be REAL assassins

We are and should be, that you miserable people revolt that fact to suit whatever your agenda is doesn't mean anything.

Even if the shot will still not be usable from sneak in the future, ever again.

Sil already said it might be changed in the future.

He also said this change would have little impact on the class pvp-power either so repairing it won't mean much.

[howlin]

Dont be mad at h888, he once borrowed an agent and found it too easy against 210 shade.

Bump for fix.

[heartless888]

tanking 6 + people is what FC forces us to do

poor you :P

[heartless888]

I understand it sucks to be you Heart,-
- but trying to ruin threads and class-improvements/fixes for other classes to solve your problems won't help.

Sorry, we're getting tired of people that only troll threads and talking about class-issues for a class they don't play.



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1: i dont have a problem, igot a soldier, love child and all, i got AMS' remember?

2: i play 220 agent too, tyvm, the diference is i dont cry *im the nerfest* like you guys do all the time, when in fact you are way up there, cause i realize how easy it is to kill people as an agent, the diference is agent isnt my *main* so *gasp* i can openly say how it is instead of just hiding how good it is and act like its the nerfest class so i get uber love (look at NTs, triples alone cant kill anyone....they say)




even if you guys got that perk back to how it was, it wouldnt matter to me sorry, id still not die to that alpha, youll still have to press O 11s later so how am i having a problem :P

[heartless888]

Dont be mad at h888, he once borrowed an agent and found it too easy against 210 shade.

Bump for fix.

no really, *I* have played a 220 agent, have you? oh wait.

[Pheddy]

poor you :P

word... problem is , we cant even tank 2 people

Edit: i laugh at your achieved goal of dinging an Agent 220 and claim knowing how things are was it hard to ding 220 , aye?

[Lupusceleri]

@H888: You, and seemingly anyone else who already is predisposed in some way, fail to realize that the 'cortez alpha' while effective, ONLY WORKS EVER THIRTY MINUTES, YES I SPELLED OUT THE NUMBER HOPEFULLY THIS WILL GET THROUGH SOMEHOW. Yes it's a great way to kill, yes it's also extremely situational and relies on predictable, contrived situations, yes it requires a bunch of IP, even though we have GREEN SA OMG.

Fixed.

Cortez alpha can be done halfarsed every SEVEN minutes: that's recharge on Absolute Concentration (needed to get even a chance of a halfdecent FA). Cortez alpha can be done properly every THIRTY minutes: that's recharge on Dimach.

Sorry guys, but I simply refuse to make a setup where I can kill one person every 7 minutes, or one person every 30 minutes.

It's simply not effective for anything but titlefarming, and well... titlefarming's over now with the new title system.

Or hey, let's take soldiers defense toolkit (AMS, reflects, healperks, etc) away, and let's give them an almost-instakill-button that's on a 7 minute recharge, and an instakill-button that's on a 30 minute recharge. Sounds fun? ;o

[Cyberleet]

Why aren't they using PE is more intresting, they who got so marvelous ideas for this profession...

thats so true, i dont even answer his crap anymore...

Yeh, and some wonder why people are leaving this game

[Chrys]

@ Chrys: you've had nothing legitimate to say on any agent thread, glad you finally stopped trying and realized it.

If you start reading what Sil said and stop listening to the sound of your own voice, you might get egad's point. Instead, you just flame everyone as "agent haters" as if that somehow negates what Sil said.

[Cyberleet]

That the current team wan't it to execute this way, doesn't mean it was originally bugged.
Incorrect flags was discovered after several changes to this perk which makes it obvious to old players it's a misconseption.

The new change wasn't ment as a nerf either as Sil said.

The proper change is to make it work as original and change all other non-agent/shade perks executing diferent from that.

While there aren't any plans to change it at the moment it might be considered in the future.

Eta? ^_^

[egadsrk2]

They might be considered.

They weren't considered.