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Thread: Why multiboxers are killing this game...do something please.

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    Why multiboxers are killing this game...do something please.

    Yes....another whine thread...but....COME ON ALREADY LOL...

    1. The obvious, they absolutely ruin pvp. I've recently started playing again and from what I've seen pvp doesn't exist outside of battlestation anymore. People are too scared to flag in bor (specifically at tl7, but also at tl5) because of the threat of being instakilled by multiboxers. So you end up with the situation of either being flagged and refreshing said flag for hours on end with no one ever attacking you, or as previously stated you are instakilled the second someone who multiboxes sees you flagged and gets all their toons logged in and ready to go. This also makes tl7 towers an absolute joke and it's pretty obvious why.....As someone who has kept paying for this game (and I don't know why....) for years, SOLELY for the purpose of pvping, this is getting completely ridiculous and I cannot see how FC has done nothing about this other than "FIX" assisting, which by the way did absolutely nothing to solve the issue, and I'm sure they are well aware of that fact.

    2. I've run into another issue in pvm situations, ya sure it's interesting that multiboxers can just team themselves with all their accounts and do team content on their own. But when there's enough people doing it, it hurts normal players who are trying to find teams. And in an mmo that has already been bleeding subscribers this is a major issue. I myself have had troubles finding teams for inferno missions at peak hours, but see multiple people multiboxing and running their own to level alts.

    Now this is just my two cents, and personal feelings on the matter, and I'm sure many people agree, something needs to be done, and it needs to be done soon....because it's kind of getting out of hand. I have played this game since 2005 and pvp and the community has been what keeps bringing me back, but honestly if something isn't done about people multiboxing it's just going to remain being a stagnant, unplayable mess. It's time to clean out the fridge and get rid of some bad eggs FC....

    You wouldn't need to brainstorm and come up with more "fixes" that don't work, if you just straight up ban them outright..This kind of behavior in LITERALLY any other game simply would not be tolerated and I fail to see FC's reason for not banning them.
    And sure you can make the argument that programs like clicksaver are also third party, but programs like that do not hurt the game, or other peoples experience. In fact FC should have taken clicksavers functionality and just built it into the game in my opinion that way you could still enforce third party programs not being allowed and add a very useful feature to the game that hundreds of people use via third party programs.

    Anyway that's my opinion on the matter, and I know nothing will probably change and this post probably won't even be seen by anyone that matters.
    But feel free to chime in, add your complaints, thoughts and opinions, bump the thread....so on and so fourth.

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    TLDR , Basic gist of the thread, Tissue box.
    Punk
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  3. #3
    Great input...you're a real stand up guy.

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    Oh you're from Punk, of course.....probably a multiboxer yourself. Doesn't surprise me.

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    I don't Multibox, but FC have said many times mB'ing is ok, i doubt anything you say will change it, and it really isnt killing the game.
    Punk
    Fixer/Enf/NT/Soldier/Doctor/Agent/Crat/Keeper/Engi

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    Not really sure what game you're playing m8...But as I'm posting this reply there is someone from your org standing in Bor with 11 characters multiboxing. And if you're going to tell me that something like that, at a tower war doesn't kill pvp....well I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one bud. And I wouldn't doubt that not all 11 of those accounts belong to that one person either...

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    Imbehindu: how many chars u got there foobar?
    Crashpike: 11
    Imbehindu: lol
    Imbehindu: u gonna take over nw by urself?
    Crashpike: been there done that


    ^ Further proves my point I'm trying to make here.......

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    They actually are all his , unlike other MB'ers in this game :P but hey, he is the bad one rite!
    Punk
    Fixer/Enf/NT/Soldier/Doctor/Agent/Crat/Keeper/Engi

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    He is part of the problem...YES. Lol, you are just here to defend it, or flame my post, purely because multiboxing benefits YOU even if you don't do it yourself...because you are in that org. You can try and come back with whatever rebuttal you want to throw at me, but that doesn't change the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elduderino View Post
    This kind of behavior in LITERALLY any other game simply would not be tolerated.
    I'm eager to have you list all the games you've played and have read/witnessed any kind of multiboxing rule enforcement since you were so bold to put emphasis on that statement.

    Go on.

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    EVE banned multiboxing, most other games not worth mentioning as content can't really be multiboxed.

    WoW for ex has enough complexity within it's raiding for multiboxing to never work in current content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuniko View Post
    EVE banned multiboxing, most other games not worth mentioning as content can't really be multiboxed.

    WoW for ex has enough complexity within it's raiding for multiboxing to never work in current content.
    Considering that within 5 systems of where I'm currently living in EVE there's 2 seperate people, one with 38 accounts and another with around 50 mining.. "banning" might be too strong of a word. And yes, they've been reported multiple times.

    Hard to say something's "banned" when it really isn't. And WoW PvP multiboxing is still as much alive as the game. Easy to beat them though because people there are used to something other than tank/spam or assist/alpha.
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    Side comment

    If you're having trouble finding teams for inf at peak hours...then you should find a new org. If you don't have at least 20+ people online in your org/linked orgs group during peak times then you're missing out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalBath View Post
    Considering that within 5 systems of where I'm currently living in EVE there's 2 seperate people, one with 38 accounts and another with around 50 mining.. "banning" might be too strong of a word. And yes, they've been reported multiple times.

    Hard to say something's "banned" when it really isn't. And WoW PvP multiboxing is still as much alive as the game. Easy to beat them though because people there are used to something other than tank/spam or assist/alpha.
    Multiple logging is not the same as multiboxing.

    I've seen a guy stream 18 accounts mining at once but he clicks on everything on each individual client: that's fine.

    multiboxing would be clicking one button, having is broadcast to every client simultaneously (which was rife in EVE before the crackdown, incursion farming for ex)

    WoW is easy to beat multiboxing because you have multiple ways to cc on short cooldowns that reliably land. AO unfortunately is a complete different kettle of fish and is much more in favour of the boxer.

    We need aoe fear back for crat , keepers aoe stun needs to be a 40 second lock and aoe wasted limbs or drains that break on damage or something to mimic long duration ccs that break on damage in wow.
    Last edited by Tsuniko; Dec 4th, 2015 at 16:29:45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuniko View Post
    Multiple logging is not the same as multiboxing.

    I've seen a guy stream 18 accounts mining at once but he clicks on everything on each individual client: that's fine.

    multiboxing would be clicking one button, having is broadcast to every client simultaneously (which was rife in EVE before the crackdown, incursion farming for ex)

    WoW is easy to beat multiboxing because you have multiple ways to cc on short cooldowns that reliably land. AO unfortunately is a complete different kettle of fish and is much more in favour of the boxer.

    We need aoe fear back for crat , keepers aoe stun needs to be a 40 second lock and aoe wasted limbs or drains that break on damage or something to mimic long duration ccs that break on damage in wow.
    I know very well what multiboxing and multilogging are. If you have a look through my posts you'll find me explaining it dozens of times.
    You can try to pretend that someone is individually controlling 38 accounts in my HOME system while mining for hours and hours until either the ice belt or the colossal belt are cleaned out but I'm not buying it. I'm not really much of a miner but it fills up local and is definitely broadcasted/automated in some capacity.. Random delays is my guess.
    The guy 5 systems over I don't usually watch but he has *50* accounts mining. Not 49, Not 51.

    These aren't "rough" numbers, it's actually counted. If we weren't in deep NBSI space I'd ask you to see it for yourself.

    AO multiboxing is easier to beat than people make it. From experience, people are just not up for what it takes. There's many weaknesses to a multiboxer.. being dumb or lazy is sadly not one of them (contrary to popular AO culture belief).
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    It's not hard to individually control 50 accounts when the cycle time of a strip miner is over 2 minutes long.

    Go find me a multiboxing incursion runner or someone multiboxing nados for ganking: it doesn't exist anymore because to do it you needed input broadcasting and that is BANNED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsuniko View Post
    EVE banned multiboxing, most other games not worth mentioning as content can't really be multiboxed.

    WoW for ex has enough complexity within it's raiding for multiboxing to never work in current content.
    EVE isn't literally every other game, it's only one in an entire ocean of mmos. Whether a game's content is complex enough or not to enable multiboxing is completely irrelevant as it's not direct action against multiboxing.

    OP completely dodged my request (as expected) and you managed to come up with only one game where multiboxing is prohibited but not actively enforced (from what I heard from rational people who actually play it, never played EVE personally). DigitalBath explained the situation fairly well too.

    Sadly this just proves that the OP, yourself and all like minded individuals really have no idea what you're talking about, no actual experience and most of your arguments come from fiction and hurt feelings. This lack of experience is what misleads you into thinking that multiboxing is somehow pure evil and the cause of all your problems. For a good, experienced player dealing with multiboxers is really not an issue.

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    I'd like to nerf these stupid multiboxing threads. Christ same post every other day.

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    I don't feel you can dismiss game design as not "direct" action against multiboxing

    to do so is pretty short-sighted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paperjockey View Post
    I'd like to nerf these stupid multiboxing threads. Christ same post every other day.
    Yeah how could multiboxing be any kind of a problem?, I mean people would complain about it, if it was....
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