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Neophyte Nerf"Shareida"Batted First Order
Freshman Jefferey"Bailan2"Ginsberg - Retired
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A Producer's point of view
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Neophyte Nerf"Shareida"Batted First Order
Freshman Jefferey"Bailan2"Ginsberg - Retired
Shareidah - First Order
A Producer's point of view
dammit why does my gents has the title assissin then! omgomg!!
i am a assassin, but i aint allowd to hit from sneak at all. whats the point of the title assassin or name the profession agent?
ofc evry non-agent cry. why would they want a prof they dont use or play to get a perk fixed that could inprove em and inprove the chanse to maybe hurt their own professions more? ;O this is complicated stuff.
i hate you all!
"Many players complain that Assassins are given too much power in most situations and that a properly played Assassin never loses a confrontation."
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Lupusceleri L220/30/70 Agent -- Advisor of Spartans -- equip endgame AR setup endgame def setup <3 Azs wearer of Cheree's pants
Arrowsmith -- Arafellin -- Alphacenta -- Aesculapias -- Wolfseye -- Lysdexic
TL5 enf twink: im out those MPs are to overpowered
crattey: The Balance Discussion forum. Where common sense goes to die.
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Again you ought to look into improving your setup.
Because the current one is G I M P E D. No evades. No 'great' hp mods. Just fail.
If you insta-died to agents hitting TS from sneak, then CS/fuzz/AS/fling when it executed, you might as well reroll. Because then, you SUCK. Badly.
Lupusceleri L220/30/70 Agent -- Advisor of Spartans -- equip endgame AR setup endgame def setup <3 Azs wearer of Cheree's pants
Arrowsmith -- Arafellin -- Alphacenta -- Aesculapias -- Wolfseye -- Lysdexic
TL5 enf twink: im out those MPs are to overpowered
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220 Shade | 220 NT | 220 Crat | 220 Fixer | 220 Agent | 165 Adv
And NTs want to have the single best offense in the game without giving up any defense of their own.
You know, the desire for great offense and defense is not just held by Agents.
Perhaps you should consider some of the whines and stupidity spread by NTs and such that got your profession so much love before you make snide, and condescending remarks on other peoples desire for the same thing.
NTs have one of the best offenses in game and yet when they whined for more defense, look, they got it. IW makes your shield that much more powerful and where's the sacrifice you took for it? Where is the loss forced upon you to boost your defense while keeping one of the highest offenses? I can't seem to find it, what a surprise.
In all seriousness, if you haven't figured out how to kill an Agent in the 8 seconds it takes CH to recharge you may want to reconsider the game you're playing. Unless some patch while I've been away secretly snuck in and made CH recharge faster it's still 8 seconds and last I PvPed nobody had an issue killing me, or any other Agent I saw on BS, in that time frame; even when I had an entire team around me.
Killing an Agent isn't hard, it's time you get that into your head and drop this stupid, tired, whine that CH is some godly defense that has no counter or method around it.
Really, would you not try to tell me the same if I whined that IW+NBG/NBS made you invincible? "It's an easy defense to bypass", "Others don't seem to have a problem bypassing it", "Others kill me all the time", "You must just be gimp" etc etc.
Enter the Information Age
Proc Descriptions
Hunt, and be hunted: The Hunting Grounds | Alien Tower Field :Aliens, that really invade!
Pet argo management: Servants Protection | Expand the Notum Silo :Make it worthwhile
Rimor
Tesgri - 220|17|58 (Omni Agent)
Leara - 220|25|62 (Omni Doctor)
Ponygirl - 220|25|56 (Omni Bureaucrat)
Means: "We have done way dumber things than this..."
Perhaps you should hop yourself to 220 and get an end game setup before you start harping on about what can and cannot be done to Agents in that 8s recharge.
The reason Agents haven't had anything spectacular? Because most idiots can glean nice shiny PvP points through little other than O wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 1(CH) wwwwwwwwwwwww O wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 1 wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww O wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 1 wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww O.
Better Agents will toss in a snare you can't dodge and remember that they have a stun, for extra f**king annoyance. These *******s make the profession look very boring to play, but nevertheless, one that annoys the living piss out of people who choose to play a profession that isn't situationally or permanently unperkable.
Now add to that, the encouragement for team PvP, where anyone remotely threatening is currently dealing with a zerg and out pops the Agent with O, CS, Fling hahahahaha wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww /tell %t HAHAHA PWNED.
FC couldn't fix PvP, so it is now in a state of permanently borked, screwed and crooked. But team up because then all of your problems go away.
Bah I hate the BS and the new title system. It removed any kind of "meaningful" (read: fun) PvP that people were still clinging on to. There's no longer any success or fail, no longer a reason to try and stay alive, no real reason to bring up a toon that you spend hours upon hours upon days upon weeks upon months perfecting and billions upon billions of credits equipping. Most idiots/flavours of the month can toss in a few nanos, slap on some Ofab and pewpew for some titles on the BS just by being in the right place at the right time, or running into the profession that is the paper to their scissors.
Whining twats only serve to make it worse.
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Genius at work.
H... Wait.... TRIPPLE TRIPPLE!!! /tell %t HAHA OWNED!!!11
Look, I can argue like Hacre, yay.
How bout you stop acting like you know more about my profession then I do mkay? I don't have to be 220 to watch even the most revered 220 Agents go down like a sack of **** on a farm when they get attacked.
If you didn't catch it my last post was largely sarcasm at the idea that "Agents are so great and don't need anything". I simply pointed out that nor do NTs, or anyone else for that matter, and yet they whine anyway expecting improvements and then whine some more when Agents want improvements too.
So let me point this out again, as it seems your ability to detect sarcasm is broken: I was being sarcastic. (Hint: the part above "In all seriousness" was the non-serious part.)
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Proc Descriptions
Hunt, and be hunted: The Hunting Grounds | Alien Tower Field :Aliens, that really invade!
Pet argo management: Servants Protection | Expand the Notum Silo :Make it worthwhile
Rimor
Tesgri - 220|17|58 (Omni Agent)
Leara - 220|25|62 (Omni Doctor)
Ponygirl - 220|25|56 (Omni Bureaucrat)
Means: "We have done way dumber things than this..."
Really.
Good job I was referring to what you said AFTERWARD then.
Not everyone can kill Agents inside CH recharge, genius. HP setup Agents are a bitch to kill for an NT even if the Agent is dazzled. But you'd know that from watching all those 220 Agents.Originally Posted by Ayria
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Genius at work.
Less of the "An agent made me die" whines and stop revolting around agent being an Assassin, unlike novausers
The shot needs to be fixed, they implied they would do it in the future so hopefully this patch.
Enter the Information Age
Proc Descriptions
Hunt, and be hunted: The Hunting Grounds | Alien Tower Field :Aliens, that really invade!
Pet argo management: Servants Protection | Expand the Notum Silo :Make it worthwhile
Rimor
Tesgri - 220|17|58 (Omni Agent)
Leara - 220|25|62 (Omni Doctor)
Ponygirl - 220|25|56 (Omni Bureaucrat)
Means: "We have done way dumber things than this..."
And Agents are supposed to be able to kill everyone? News to me.
Point is, I don't care if I can't kill HP Agents inside CH recharge, that's the way it is. But you're the one making dumb claims likeYeah, nerfy Agents, so squishy even with ENTIRE TEAMS around them.Originally Posted by Ayria
What next Ayria? Sometimes your gun backfires and Aimshots you in the face? Fix please?
If you're going to say things "in all seriousness" at least make them credible enough to be taken seriously.
Oh and while you and monique and co are on your "we're supposed to be assassins!!!!111one" trip, stop trying to be tanks and get the f**k on with it. Max out your AR, get all your weapon swaps set up and go nuts.
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Hacre/Solitus/Keeper/220/29/70 - Ninpopotamus/Solitus/NT/220/30/70 - Charmming/Opifex/Crat/220/30/70
Genius at work.
Point out where I'm saying we should be able to kill anyone? Hmm? Again I'm not seeing it. Assumptions boy, assumptions.
The bit about being surrounded by a team can happen, of course you'd know this if you had any clue. It's called "Everyone beat up on the little guy/gal and watch it go splat." Or are you telling me you've never been in a situation where one target was called before the others and people /assisted. Really, and you talk about my posts needing credibility?
Stop trying to be tanks, ya, good point. Take it to heart and tell everyone else that's not a tank to just drop all their defense. NTs aren't tanks, don't use NBG/NBS just use nukes. Good advice? Hardly.
Enter the Information Age
Proc Descriptions
Hunt, and be hunted: The Hunting Grounds | Alien Tower Field :Aliens, that really invade!
Pet argo management: Servants Protection | Expand the Notum Silo :Make it worthwhile
Rimor
Tesgri - 220|17|58 (Omni Agent)
Leara - 220|25|62 (Omni Doctor)
Ponygirl - 220|25|56 (Omni Bureaucrat)
Means: "We have done way dumber things than this..."
Well, one would assume you -should- be able to kill someone...but hey if you don't want to, that's fine by me, but why all the whine threads?
Yeah, not exactly a problem unique to Agents though, is it? NTs get their fair share of instapwns from being called, as do docs. Why are you complaining about this exactly? Are you trying to claim a called target shouldn't go down fast? Are you claiming Agents shouldn't go down fast if called? Dying when called doesn't make you squishy, it means you got called/zerged. Big, big difference.
Short term situational defense != tanking.
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Genius at work.
Killing someone and killing everyone are two very different things. I understand, accept, and promote the idea that I will always (and should always) have professions I cannot win against alone.
Not trying to imply anything beyond that Agents can die just like anyone else. The consensus I gather from peoples feelings on Agent and CH is that we don't die, ever. People complain that it's to good a defense and that we should lose it because we never die. I was simply pointing out that, even with a team around us that could make better targets, give us defense buffs, heal us etc we can die in the time it takes our CH to recharge. Even in a situation where we should be well defended with our 'uber' toolkit and the aide of those around us we can die, what does that say about our survivability when it's just us alone? Do you think we are going to get called less or more often when we are alone?
CH is not god mode, it is not invulnerability; and I'm tired of people whining about Agents because they refuse to accept that fact.
Yes, and if Agents can die in 8 seconds after CH we are hardly tanking. But you seem to think we are, so, which is it?
Enter the Information Age
Proc Descriptions
Hunt, and be hunted: The Hunting Grounds | Alien Tower Field :Aliens, that really invade!
Pet argo management: Servants Protection | Expand the Notum Silo :Make it worthwhile
Rimor
Tesgri - 220|17|58 (Omni Agent)
Leara - 220|25|62 (Omni Doctor)
Ponygirl - 220|25|56 (Omni Bureaucrat)
Means: "We have done way dumber things than this..."