AR and NR

**Lheann** · Sep 18th, 2009, 14:52:35

Originally Posted by Ebag333

Bass or trout?

Deep sea. Tuna, shark, wahoo and other big game fish. Shark I enjoy the most. Bass fishing is nice but when you live on the Gulf of Mexico the ocean calls to you.

**Ebag333** · Sep 18th, 2009, 19:42:17

Originally Posted by Lheann

Deep sea. Tuna, shark, wahoo and other big game fish. Shark I enjoy the most. Bass fishing is nice but when you live on the Gulf of Mexico the ocean calls to you.

Ahhh, you lucky....I lack that luxury.

**erozc** · Sep 20th, 2009, 23:31:18

Now what really started bugging me is not the AAD and AR issues, but the fact that jet turbine applications are designed using approximated thrust performance data, and we all know data entry jobs are given to interns that might not be terribly excited about the task at hand, so will I be ever again able to travel by plane?

But don't mind me, I am sure you tested your break point formula extensively against the original formula (after all, shouldn't take more than an hour)

**Ebag333** · Sep 21st, 2009, 01:34:29

Originally Posted by eroz_c

Now what really started bugging me is not the AAD and AR issues, but the fact that jet turbine applications are designed using approximated thrust performance data, and we all know data entry jobs are given to interns that might not be terribly excited about the task at hand, so will I be ever again able to travel by plane?

/me snickers

Originally Posted by eroz_c

But don't mind me, I am sure you tested your break point formula extensively against the original formula (after all, shouldn't take more than an hour)

As I said before, the margin of error is big enough that it's almost impossible to tell the difference between the two. *shrug*

**Lheann** · Sep 21st, 2009, 01:46:22

Originally Posted by eroz_c

Now what really started bugging me is not the AAD and AR issues, but the fact that jet turbine applications are designed using approximated thrust performance data, and we all know data entry jobs are given to interns that might not be terribly excited about the task at hand, so will I be ever again able to travel by plane?

But don't mind me, I am sure you tested your break point formula extensively against the original formula (after all, shouldn't take more than an hour)

Actually it was tested against performance data collected from the jet turbine stratpped to a fixed testing platform. We are withing .1% deviation against the actual jet turbine. In areas where the data was off by more than that we used the actualy data to proof our calculations. Of course the use of long doubles (80 bit floating point math) is not something you have to use often it helped.

**erozc** · Oct 20th, 2009, 11:35:06

Bump for uber post.

**erozc** · Jul 21st, 2010, 10:31:06

Why the hell isn't this sticky yet.

**Elithas** · Jul 22nd, 2010, 21:54:12

No idea, but it should be

**masterful1** · Aug 26th, 2010, 19:41:52

because it will expose the evil plan FC has in the works.

**Dancingrage** · Jul 14th, 2011, 04:54:19

Bit of necromancy, but I'm noticing the links to the calculators are broken. Was going to use this in a discussion but had to go dig up the post first.

Any chance someone happens to know where the links have moved to? Or has Ebag managed to get himself 'disappeared' over this calculator?

**Ebag333** · Jul 19th, 2011, 02:14:51

Originally Posted by Dancingrage

Bit of necromancy, but I'm noticing the links to the calculators are broken. Was going to use this in a discussion but had to go dig up the post first.

Any chance someone happens to know where the links have moved to? Or has Ebag managed to get himself 'disappeared' over this calculator?

Well, I haven't been disappeared just yet.

Good news and bad news.

Bad news, SG lost the database. So hundreds of thousands of pieces of data are gone.

Good news, he had the files, which contained the formulas! If it looks like javascript...that's 'cause it is!

Anyway, to make your own calculator, follow these easy steps.

Create a new text file.
Rename text file to name of your choice, but change extension from .txt to .hta (I suggest NanoLandCalculator.hta or similar).
Edit .hta file in Notepad.
Copy and paste the text below into Notepad (only one of the code blocks below per .HTA).
Save file.
Launch HTA by double clicking on it.
Calculate! (Be sure to read and follow the instructions!)
???
Profit!

Nano Calculator

Code:

<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>AR Calculator</TITLE>
</HEAD>

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript">
<!--
function checkForZero(field)
{
    if (field.value == 0 || field.value.length == 0) {
        alert ("This field can't be 0!");
        field.focus(); }
}

function cmdCalc_Click(form)
{
        calculatePayment(form);
}

function calculatePayment(form)
{
	ar = form.attskill1.value*(form.attskillcheck1.value/100)+form.attskill2.value*(form.attskillcheck2.value/100)+form.attskill3.value*(form.attskillcheck3.value/100);
	def = form.defskill1.value*(form.defskillcheck1.value/100)+form.defskill2.value*(form.defskillcheck2.value/100)+form.defskill3.value*(form.defskillcheck3.value/100);
	diff_ar = ar/(ar+def);

	aggdefuno = 4+(1*form.defbar.value/100);
	aggdefdos = -(1*Math.pow(10,-5))*Math.pow(form.defbar.value,2)-0.002*form.defbar.value+2.3;

	land_rate = aggdefuno*Math.pow(diff_ar,aggdefdos);


	form.diffar.value = Math.round(diff_ar*10000)/100 + "%";
    form.landrate.value = Math.round(land_rate*10000)/100 + "%";
    form.missrate.value = Math.round((1-land_rate)*10000)/100 + "%";
}
//-->
</SCRIPT>

<script type="text/javascript">
var gaJsHost = (("https:" == document.location.protocol) ? "https://ssl." : "http://www.");
document.write(unescape("%3Cscript src='" + gaJsHost + "google-analytics.com/ga.js' type='text/javascript'%3E%3C/script%3E"));
</script>
<script type="text/javascript">
try {
var pageTracker = _gat._getTracker("UA-10504701-1");
pageTracker._trackPageview();
} catch(err) {}
</script>

<BODY>
<TABLE>
<TR>
<TD VALIGN=TOP>

<FORM NAME="NanoARCalculator">

<TABLE WIDTH=350 BORDER=5 BGCOLOR=SILVER CELLPADDING=2>
<TR>
<TD COLSPAN=2 ALIGN=CENTER>
<B><FONT SIZE=+2 COLOR=BLUE>Nano AR Calculator</FONT></B>
</TD>
</TR>

<TR>
<TD COLSPAN=2 WIDTH=50%>
<TABLE BORDER=0 CELLPADDING=2>

<TR>
<TD COLSPAN=4><B>Attacker Data:</B></TD>

<TR>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Skill:</TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=attskill1

    VALUE="1000"

    SIZE=7

    onBlur=checkForZero(this)

    onChange=checkForZero(this)>
</TD>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Check:</TD>
<TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=attskillcheck1

    VALUE="100"

    SIZE=7

    onBlur=checkForZero(this)

    onChange=checkForZero(this)>
</TD>
</TR>

<TR>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Skill:</TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=attskill2

    VALUE="0"

    SIZE=7

</TD>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Check:</TD>
<TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=attskillcheck2

    VALUE="0"

    SIZE=7

</TD>
</TR>

<TR>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Skill:</TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=attskill3

    VALUE="0"

    SIZE=7
</TD>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Check:</TD>
<TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=attskillcheck3

    VALUE="0"

    SIZE=7

</TD>
</TR>


<TR>
<TD COLSPAN=4><B>Defender Data:</B></TD>

<TR>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Skill:</TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=defskill1

    VALUE="1000"

    SIZE=7

    onBlur=checkForZero(this)

    onChange=checkForZero(this)>
</TD>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Check:</TD>
<TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=defskillcheck1

    VALUE="100"

    SIZE=7

    onBlur=checkForZero(this)

    onChange=checkForZero(this)>
</TD>
</TR>

<TR>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Skill:</TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=defskill2

    VALUE="0"

    SIZE=7

</TD>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Check:</TD>
<TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=defskillcheck2

    VALUE="0"

    SIZE=7

</TD>
</TR>

<TR>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Skill:</TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=defskill3

    VALUE="0"

    SIZE=7
</TD>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Check:</TD>
<TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=defskillcheck3

    VALUE="0"

    SIZE=7

</TD>
</TR>

<TR>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT colspan=1>Agg/Def Bar:</TD>
<TD colspan=2>
 <INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=defbar

    VALUE=0

    SIZE=7>
</TD>
</TR>

</TABLE>
</TD></TR>

<TR>
<TD>

<TABLE BORDER=0 CELLPADDING=2>

<TR>
<TD COLSPAN=2><B>Results:</B></TD>
<TR>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Diff AR %:</TD>
<TD>

<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=diffar

    SIZE=7>

</TD>
</tr>
<tr>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Land Rate:</TD>
<TD>

<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=landrate

    SIZE=7>

</TD>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Miss Rate:</TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=missrate

    SIZE=7>
</TD>
</TR>

<TR>
<TD ALIGN=CENTER COLSPAN=2>
<INPUT

    TYPE=BUTTON

    NAME="cmdCalc"

    VALUE="Calculate"

    onClick=cmdCalc_Click(this.form)>


</TD>
</TR>
</TD></TR>
</TABLE>

</TD></TR>
</TABLE>

</FORM></TD>

<td width=50>
&nbsp
</td>

<TD VALIGN=TOP>
<H3>Nano AR Calculator</H3>
This page uses a form to calculate the land rate for nanos.
<P>
Here's how you use this form:
<OL>
<LI>Enter the attackers skills (typical nano skills).
<LI>Enter the attack skill check amounts (always enter the percentage amount, so a 100% check nano is entered as 100, not 1).
<LI>Enter the defenders skills (typically Nano Resist).
<LI>Enter the defense skill check amounts (always enter the percentage amount, so a 100% check nano is entered as 100, not 1).
<LI>Enter the defenders Agg/Def bar setting.  Note that this runs from -100 (full defense) to 100 (full aggro), with neutral (50/50) being 0.
<LI>Click Calculate.
</OL>
<BR><BR>
This calculator should be accurate +-5% for any calculations at full def (-100).  Anything else has been tested less (or not at all) and may or may not be accurate.
<BR><BR>
Just in case you were curious, skill = AAO, and evades = AAD.
<BR><BR>
Also, diff_ar = ar/(ar+def).  This is used to always give me a number that is between 0 and 1 (0% and 100% when converted to a percentage).
</TD>
</TABLE>



</BODY>
</HTML>

Weapon Calculator

Code:

<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>AR Calculator</TITLE>

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript">
<!--
function checkForZero(field)
{
    if (field.value == 0 || field.value.length == 0)
    {
        alert ("This field can't be 0!");
        field.focus();
    }
}

function cmdCalc_Click(form)
{
        calculatePayment(form);
}

function calculatePayment(form)
{
	ar = form.attskill1.value*(form.attskillcheck1.value/100);
	ar = ar+form.attskill2.value*(form.attskillcheck2.value/100);
	ar = ar+form.attskill3.value*(form.attskillcheck3.value/100);
	def = form.defskill1.value*(form.defskillcheck1.value/100)+form.defskill2.value*(form.defskillcheck2.value/100)+form.defskill3.value*(form.defskillcheck3.value/100);
	diff_ar = ar/(ar+def);

	aggdefuno = 3.75+(0.0075*form.defbar.value);
	aggdefdos = 2.25;

	land_rate = aggdefuno*Math.pow(diff_ar,aggdefdos);


	form.diffar.value = Math.round(diff_ar*10000)/100 + "%";
	    form.landrate.value = Math.round(land_rate*10000)/100 + "%";
    form.missrate.value = Math.round((1-land_rate)*10000)/100 + "%";
}
//-->
</SCRIPT>

<script type="text/javascript">
var gaJsHost = (("https:" == document.location.protocol) ? "https://ssl." : "http://www.");
document.write(unescape("%3Cscript src='" + gaJsHost + "google-analytics.com/ga.js' type='text/javascript'%3E%3C/script%3E"));
</script>
<script type="text/javascript">
try {
var pageTracker = _gat._getTracker("UA-10504701-1");
pageTracker._trackPageview();
} catch(err) {}
</script>
</HEAD>


<BODY>
<TABLE>
<TR>
<TD VALIGN=TOP>

<FORM NAME="WeaponARCalculator">

<TABLE WIDTH=350 BORDER=5 BGCOLOR=SILVER CELLPADDING=2>
<TR>
<TD COLSPAN=2 ALIGN=CENTER>
<B><FONT SIZE=+2 COLOR=BLUE>Weapon AR Calculator</FONT></B>
</TD>
</TR>

<TR>
<TD COLSPAN=2 WIDTH=50%>
<TABLE BORDER=0 CELLPADDING=2>

<TR>
<TD COLSPAN=4><B>Attacker Data:</B></TD>

<TR>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Skill:</TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=attskill1

    VALUE="1000"

    SIZE=7

    onBlur=checkForZero(this)

    onChange=checkForZero(this)>
</TD>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Check:</TD>
<TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=attskillcheck1

    VALUE="100"

    SIZE=7

    onBlur=checkForZero(this)

    onChange=checkForZero(this)>
</TD>
</TR>

<TR>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Skill:</TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=attskill2

    VALUE="0"

    SIZE=7

</TD>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Check:</TD>
<TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=attskillcheck2

    VALUE="0"

    SIZE=7

</TD>
</TR>

<TR>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>AAO:</TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=attskill3

    VALUE="0"

    SIZE=7
</TD>

<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Check:</TD>
<TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=attskillcheck3

    VALUE="100"

    SIZE=7

</TD>
</TR>


<TR>
<TD COLSPAN=4><B>Defender Data:</B></TD>

<TR>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Skill:</TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=defskill1

    VALUE="1000"

    SIZE=7

    onBlur=checkForZero(this)

    onChange=checkForZero(this)>
</TD>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Check:</TD>
<TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=defskillcheck1

    VALUE="100"

    SIZE=7

    onBlur=checkForZero(this)

    onChange=checkForZero(this)>
</TD>
</TR>

<TR>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Skill:</TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=defskill2

    VALUE="0"

    SIZE=7

</TD>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Check:</TD>
<TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=defskillcheck2

    VALUE="0"

    SIZE=7

</TD>
</TR>

<TR>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>AAD:</TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=defskill3

    VALUE="0"

    SIZE=7
</TD>

<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Check:</TD>
<TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=defskillcheck3

    VALUE="100"

    SIZE=7

</TD>
</TR>



<TR>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT colspan=1>Agg/Def Bar:</TD>
<TD colspan=2>
 <INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=defbar

    VALUE=0

    SIZE=7>
</TD>
</TR>

</TABLE>
</TD></TR>

<TR>
<TD>

<TABLE BORDER=0 CELLPADDING=2>

<TR>
<TD COLSPAN=2><B>Results:</B></TD>
<TR>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Diff AR %:</TD>
<TD>

<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=diffar

    SIZE=7>

</TD>
</tr>
<tr>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Land Rate:</TD>
<TD>

<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=landrate

    SIZE=7>

</TD>
<TD ALIGN=RIGHT>Miss Rate:</TD>
<TD>
<INPUT

    TYPE=TEXT

    NAME=missrate

    SIZE=7>
</TD>
</TR>

<TR>
<TD ALIGN=CENTER COLSPAN=2>
<INPUT

    TYPE=BUTTON

    NAME="cmdCalc"

    VALUE="Calculate"

    onClick=cmdCalc_Click(this.form)>


</TD>
</TR>
</TD></TR>
</TABLE>

</TD></TR>
</TABLE>

</FORM></TD>

<td width=50>
&nbsp
</td>

<TD VALIGN=TOP>
<H3>Weapon AR Calculator</H3>
This page uses a form to calculate the land rate for Weapons.
<P>
Here's how you use this form:
<OL>
<LI>Enter the attackers skills (typical Weapon skills).
<LI>Enter the attack skill check amounts (always enter the percentage amount, so a 100% check Weapon is entered as 100, not 1).
<LI>Enter the defenders skills (typically Evade/Dodge/Duck).
<LI>Enter the defense skill check amounts (always enter the percentage amount, so a 100% check Weapon is entered as 100, not 1).
<LI>Enter the defenders Agg/Def bar setting.  Note that this runs from -100 (full defense) to 100 (full aggro), with neutral (50/50) being 0.
<LI>Click Calculate.
</OL>
<BR><BR>
This calculator should be accurate +-5% for any calculations at full def (-100).  Anything else has been tested less (or not at all) and may or may not be accurate.
<BR><BR>
Just in case you were curious, skill = AAO, and evades = AAD.
<BR><BR>
Also, diff_ar = ar/(ar+def).  This is used to always give me a number that is between 0 and 1 (0% and 100% when converted to a percentage).
</TD>
</TABLE>



</BODY>
</HTML>

**Dancingrage** · Jul 19th, 2011, 02:24:53

All right, thanks a ton, Ebag!

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