Just Nerf Adventurers Already

**Nobody** · Jul 28th, 2006, 22:22:45

Originally Posted by Ferg

be civilized about your replies please.

speak for yourself ><

**Wilsonat** · Jul 29th, 2006, 07:51:52

=c. Take away acrobat. With blue evades and no "true" evade buff, it doesn't make sense to many of us why adventurer has access in the first place.

Dunno what you mean by "true", adv get the most evade buffing nanos in game. (and by FP, agents too, that would be the only not "true" eade buffing) Although a 220's with the % increase nanos get far more on one skill.

This particular program increases damage by 19 points and evasion skills by 80 points. Those in the form of a wolf will gain an additional bonus of 24 points to damage, 96 points to evasion skills, 15 points to runspeed and 20 points to general attack skill.

That's a total of 176 evades. Tack on we get this and this and ALL of those stack with RI, and I'd say advs are the only true evade profs in game.

AAD is not the same as evades, just like AAO is not the same as weapon skill.

**rakhabit** · Jul 29th, 2006, 08:42:55

Originally Posted by randomletter

AAD is not the same as evades, just like AAO is not the same as weapon skill.

As far as determining a hit or miss, AAD/AAO are the same as evades or weapon skill.

**Wilsonat** · Jul 29th, 2006, 08:49:15

Wow, all I can say is wow. I specifically give my counter arguement before you even say it, and you still say it.

**Alreadythere** · Jul 29th, 2006, 10:51:24

Originally Posted by randomletter

Dunno what you mean by "true", adv get the most evade buffing nanos in game. [...]and I'd say advs are the only true evade profs in game.

Nice reasoning.

Let's apply this to two other professions then:
Fixer got a sneak attack buff. Why don't they get perks and weapons for sneak then?
Agents got a chemical buff. Why are the so few agent tradeskiller?

**Louderer789** · Jul 29th, 2006, 12:12:53

Originally Posted by randomletter

Dunno what you mean by "true",

A buff in the evasion nanoline, whose effects aren't conditional on what other buffs are running and which doesn't miss 10s out of every 2 minutes would be a start

. As for stare etc, the evades are just bonuses tacked onto other buffs. I could call Frenzy of Shells an evade buff but it's just an SMG buff with small evades bonuses.

**ZenWon** · Jul 29th, 2006, 16:12:54

Just nerf the thread already lmao

**catdog** · Jul 29th, 2006, 18:08:14

Still want a nemesis proffession for advy's, or several. Should count for polymorph so maybe those werent as viable in pvp in the first place.

**Wilsonat** · Jul 29th, 2006, 23:28:53

Originally Posted by bockrocker

A buff in the evasion nanoline, whose effects aren't conditional on what other buffs are running and which doesn't miss 10s out of every 2 minutes would be a start

. As for stare etc, the evades are just bonuses tacked onto other buffs. I could call Frenzy of Shells an evade buff but it's just an SMG buff with small evades bonuses.

So then this is not an evade buff? The fact they are on different nanolines is for stacking reasons, not because they are or are not evade buffs. And saying it's not a true evade buff because it misses 10s out of every 2 minutes means AMS isn't a reflect buff.

**Pharexys** · Jul 30th, 2006, 14:50:51

This thread really delivers ;D
A engi calling advys to get nerfed is the most funny thread I have ever seen.

**Actium1** · Jul 30th, 2006, 16:52:50

Originally Posted by Pharexys

This thread really delivers ;D
A engi calling advys to get nerfed is the most funny thread I have ever seen.

personally it was more funny to see how random tried to make crats look like advy killers

**ZenWon** · Jul 30th, 2006, 19:56:08

Yay 10 pages of bitching and fighting. Gratz.

**Lillagumman** · Jul 30th, 2006, 21:05:58

Originally Posted by ArtemisV

personally it was more funny to see how random tried to make crats look like advy killers

most fun on the forums for a long time yeah

**Tepamina** · Jul 30th, 2006, 21:27:00

I'm enjoying it

**Eridah** · Jul 30th, 2006, 21:28:24

not like advies are the only prof without a real nemesis prof......... i would love to see every prof with at least 1 nemesis prof in LE though.

**Actium1** · Jul 30th, 2006, 21:43:13

Originally Posted by Eridah

not like advies are the only prof without a real nemesis prof......... i would love to see every prof with at least 1 nemesis prof in LE though.

agreed

**Maistah** · Jul 30th, 2006, 22:12:15

Originally Posted by randomletter

So then this is not an evade buff?

School Psionic: Agility buffs

**atlasdreamer** · Jul 31st, 2006, 08:33:37

Originally Posted by Eridah

not like advies are the only prof without a real nemesis prof......... i would love to see every prof with at least 1 nemesis prof in LE though.

Kind of Like MP's are the "nemesis" of NT's (NSD+NT=Reclaim) ?
and NT's are the "nemesis" of GA fixers ?
Crats are the Bane of ALL pet class's

Advys are the Bane of everyone

**Eridah** · Jul 31st, 2006, 09:56:01

Originally Posted by Atlasdreamer

Kind of Like MP's are the "nemesis" of NT's (NSD+NT=Reclaim) ?
and NT's are the "nemesis" of GA fixers ?
Crats are the Bane of ALL pet class's

Advys are the Bane of everyone

NT vs MP depends who gets the jump on who...NSD can be resisted alot and in that time NT will calm your pets and nuke u hard.

Adv arent the bane of everyone...scroll up and you see a list of prof that can kill advs 1vs1....however Advs are just like MA and Keeper and lack a real nemesis prof that has a serious advantage over them....much due to crazy root resists at TL7.

**Niles** · Jul 31st, 2006, 13:39:46

There is nothing to see here. Move along, move along.

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