Lvl 30

[Sisterclamp]

Hello there.
I am working on an Enf that I am considering using for Tower defense.
I have played a keeper before and my fixer has tanked before and I have no problem dying for the team. that being said....
I am wondering at 30 would it be better to go 1hb/1he or 2he.
I have all but Phase Blades and GTA from the temple already thanks to my org. But I am not sure about the route to go to be able to maximize the damage output at 30..
I am doing good but I know that I can do better. All helpful info will be appreicated.


Thanks

[Synre]

Hello there.
I am working on an Enf that I am considering using for Tower defense.
I have played a keeper before and my fixer has tanked before and I have no problem dying for the team. that being said....
I am wondering at 30 would it be better to go 1hb/1he or 2he.
I have all but Phase Blades and GTA from the temple already thanks to my org. But I am not sure about the route to go to be able to maximize the damage output at 30..
I am doing good but I know that I can do better. All helpful info will be appreicated.


Thanks

at level 30 i would say get 1 or 2 mortiig beaters.. they will od anything 1he or 2he has to offer at those levels, i think even if you only wear one because of the multi melee... if you really want dual you can always get a kyrochz hammer in left hand, will do the job nice as well.

you dont need GTA,exarch is imho better for the -% nanocost.

[Sisterclamp]

Did not think about getting the MB this early.. I am going to have to consider that.
Have Robe equipped. Need to get the others equipped. the GCB is going to be the most fun to equip. I had to take a break cause teh numbers were starting to run together.
But I would like to think taht I could get the WF/BS equipped as well as either higher level Carb or something Equivelent.
But if MB's can be equipped it looks like I get to amaze a few more guild mates.

[Synre]

oops yeah I forgot that lvl 30 is a bit low for beater hehe, i didnt looked hard enough at the beaters.

for a QL100 http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=246345

User Expansion sets & Shadowlands and
User Profession == Enforcer and
User 1h Blunt >= 501 and
User Fast attack >= 251 and
User Brawl >= 301 and
User Dimach >= 101

for a trox enf, with no armor, just QL90 1hb, strength, stamina, fast attack implants, and maxed, and maxed perks in blunt mastery and light infantry, composite melee and special i get

289 1hb,
262 FA
279 Brawl
136 dimach

for 1hb, we get

Base 289
Brutal thug 87
Thugs Delight 14 (stacks on BT)
Wrangle 132
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total 522 1hb = enough to equipe

if you are solitus you get 3 points or so less in 1hb.

after wrangle goes down you get 522-132=390 1hb

for a QL100 you need 400 1hb to be 100%, so you would need 1 or 2 parts of AI armor or just try to get +10 from trickle down: Behe+IC+composite attributes SHOULD give you enough to keep the beater out of OE.


This is all according to nillian's skill emulator, i may be a bit off on calculations Ask your org to check if this is all correct before you go twinking

[Sisterclamp]

More math head hurts.

[Saetos]

More math head hurts.

Math and the general understanding of twinking schematics is useful and recommended for such projects

[Sisterclamp]

Recovering form the last twink. Each one get better and better. Just the recovery time gets to me.
That's all.

[tradalotrox]

I've seen a lvl21 dude with one beater / full CM. Think that was quite nice .
I calced about 309 ish MM with ql90 imps / maxed stats etc. Don't think you can hit the 500 MM to dual wield, it may be possible but a very hard twink hehe.
Go with what Roxton suggested, should be quite nice.
Penultimate ofab may be good for armor + 1/2 pieces to keep beater non OE.

Also, totally agree with you about twinking being draining/annoying at times heh.

[Synre]

Also, totally agree with you about twinking being draining/annoying at times heh.

tell me about it. i made a lvl 60 froob panther twink.. he was done leveling like 7 months ago.. finally got the silken legchopper on 5 months ago.. and he is currently still in medsuit havent done implants yet

[Reids]

impossible to get the multi melee for 2 beaters at level 30 without exploiting

[Sisterclamp]

Well at lvl 30 I have QL 73 imps in, and Skull of Lamentation and Skull of Woe in. I want to do dual beaters.....but I am begining to relize that is not going to be possible


Self Must have Shadowlands
Self Profession == Enforcer
Self 1hBlunt >= 501 Current 359
Self FastAttack >= 251 Current 232
Self Brawl >= 301 Current 270
Self Dimach >= 101 Current 205


I could possibly maybe put in higher imps and reach it but I am not thinking possible
Going to have to One and find something for the off hand

[theobelisk]

a beater is not that hard to equip

501
-20 (expertise)
481
-12 (startup buff)
469
-87 (brutal)
382
-132 (premium wrangle)
250 already
-110 (ql 100 imps)
140
add in 3 ai perks, sl perk, and some armor

its really cake and easy to do at 30

im fairly positive its been equipped at 15...
21 is far easier
and duel beaters has been done at 30 (exploited maybe)
but is def. possible at 31 or 32 (reids had calced on auno i believe in a twink thread)

level 30 trox, max agility, stamina, strength
hits 457 1hblunt before any armor and implants w/ maxed ai perks and the buffs above.

really not that difficult

-2 to calc for thug's delight (startup nano, thought was 12, its 14.)

[Kopecz]

As Reids pointed out, it's the MM req that's impossible for dual tiigs. 1 tiig is totally doable though.

Can anyone say: is there a new 1hb weapon from SoM he could use in the off hand as another option besides alien hammer? I can't remember

[Micromgmt]

The MM for two tiigs is doable at 31, I calced it a long time ago. However it's impractical for most players.

You're also shooting a bit low on your imp qls if you're going for a Tiig. 130s are doable on a trox at 30 IIRC, 110-115 aren't too hard with just a bit of work.

Don't forget, even if you can't afford mercs, you can do rhinoman sleeves for 1hb, as well as the SL rings if you're willing to do the quests for each zone. And the the melee libraries from sided mobs in SL are an extra 2 points to 1hb in your utility slots, which don't have many other options at this level.

EDIT: Looking at the setup again, for troxes it looks like you'd have to be 32 and the implants in the stup would be a reaaal pain to get in, if they're even possible.

Edit's Edit (:P) : Looks like I forgot buffs for trickle, so yeah, level 31 for a trox, but imps would still be a major pain.

[kuznechik]

I'm wondering at which levels new Neleb rod is useful for lowbie enfs... About same damage as styg, 2hb, easier to equip, nice nano drain if you aren't NR1.

[Maxisolja]

I bet a lvl 14 froob enf could meet the 2hb req for the rod, dont know about the fast attack, I know a frost scythe has been done but im to tired to check stuff out atm.

[kabulla]

impossible to get the multi melee for 2 beaters at level 30 without exploiting

/wave

actually your wrong Reids 30 is the lowest (i'll prove it when Trox gets rerolled sometime this year :P)

[Vgman01]

1x beater is equipable at lv 24 (did the calcs for my enf, need strong armor or some variation of though) but about dual wielding, if you cant get 2x on then don’t put any thing in the off hand, it will only hurt your over time dmg being as you have to wait another 1s for your beater to hit again and totw skulls are large amounts of crap for pvp unless your lv 10 or 15 or something. however I think the "New" enfo twinks at those lv will be going 2hb for the new neleb rod.

[Vgman01]

http://auno.org/ao/equip.php?saveid=112907

Neuts can get 15 more. assuming sided thats about the most you can get with + 20 from buff and trickle down it might be possible to get 290 mm from a setup most I can think of :/


@ Synre

EVERY one of my toons have had AT LEAST 600 in there main skills at lv 60.

[Stick]

The MM for two tiigs is doable at 31, I calced it a long time ago. However it's impractical for most players.

yes it is, planing it on my 31 baby enf. just finishing up gathering the AI armor for that.