well nts shouldnt have to deal with the fact that u are not dealin with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by navycut
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well nts shouldnt have to deal with the fact that u are not dealin with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by navycut
U know, spamming RK single nukes just make sure that we are the second "tanker" after enfo :PQuote:
Originally Posted by DecemberSky
If all you do is spam IEF, that doesnt really seem like youre playing NT. I'm not sure about what level range you are speaking of, but even at 165 you have access to the Detaunt perk called "Fade Anger". If you pull agg, calming the agg'd mob will wipe hate list if I recall. There are plenty of ways to avoid being damaged. We don't need any heals beyond First aid stims, and the general perks that we have access to.
NT's are not a healing profession. We have Nanobot shelter, Nullity Sphere, Nanobot Guard, Layers, Blinds, decent evades and aad (if you choose that route) calms, and roots. All these things help us to avoid taking damage.
You don't need a very expensive setup to make sure you stay alive, just better knowledge of our toolset. Playing NT isn't as easy as playing a soldier were you can /afk /q /tms. I dont want it to be that easy, and I think most of the other NTs who took the time to learn the profession and their strengths and weaknesses would agree.
Please don't take this as me being a stubborn old-timer. I just think if we start incorporating things into our profession that don't belong, then we'll see it with other professions too, making all professions seem way too similar.
No I am not talking about my lvls or asking NT to have any healing, but why would a RK nukes like IEF need to have huge taunt from the first place, it is not that overpower even without huge taunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by DecemberSky
Well, I sort of agree with your statement. When IEF is first castable, it is quite a powerful nuke. I believe most NTs start casting this with a MC buff at around 80-90, some even sooner with good twinking. The nuke itself is fine, I think. I think what is lacking is more nuke choices -After- IEF.
As a new professional, I have already made it known to the appropriate people that we lack nuke choices throughout the whole game. I like situational nukes compared to just get one nuke and mashing 1 1 1 1. I think with the rebalance, we will fix some of these issues.
well after u look at Crispy Chirop, Chef cleaver, IEF isnt that powerful at all anymore :) my whole point is to remove NT from being the tanker after enfo. RK nukes IEF has enough taunt even @ TL4/TL5. the nuke dmg + taunt is lots of taunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by DecemberSky
I also like situational nuke too something like.
1. Instead of AoE nuke the nuke in a radius, I would like nuke that nuke like a pie. spreading 90 degree open infront of NT. like this symbol <
2. Icewall - a nuke that create a horizontal wall blocking enemies from advancing.
3. Ice nuke that slow runspeed.
May be it is a bit too early to say it now but I would like to have these nukes.
o hell yeah!
I want my pie nuke too! :D
I understand how you feel about IEF, and with it being the best nuke until Touch of the Pyre, I can understand a little frustration, but the agg can be dealt with...and yes in terms of comparing to now-a-days stuffs, I agree we need any update. I have vocalized this to the appropriate sources, like I stated before.
AoE Nukes will also be updated come Rebalance time. I do like the idea of different ranges, angles and such for AOE's, I'll have to ask Dev's if it is possible to code something like that.
That sounds like fun, any chance of applying those affects to some of the other AoE nano's as well if it proves to be possible?
Maybe have the cone effects gain a longer range than the full 360% AoE's since you would be sacrificing some coverage by making it a cone effect?
And are these cone effects going to be 'cast' from the NT's person or are they going to start from the target and keep going?
Would this basically be the introduction to stream damage in a functional way that could be applied to ranged weapon damage from specials such as burst and full auto?
I'm going to stop now as I think I may be hurting the case for an effect I want to see.
Just giving my opinion:
I like agg! I want agg!
I've been the main initial mob target (when no other nm nt around) during all my leveling as a squishy, in lots of awful teams (I was an awful team member so got what I deserved haha)... now that I got a fairly good setup, I don't wanna be invisible to mobs :D.
/end of opinion
Oooops
"I like situational nukes compared to just get one nuke and mashing 1 1 1 1"... oh yes!!
I think the mashing 1 1 1 1 1 is only boring because everything is such a grind. There really are no situations while leveling that call for anything other than spamming your nuke. Unless you get agg then you just root and stop doing anything really.
if Fc gave us more tools then i can assure u we would use them..but since we didnt make the game,we have to use what they gave us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Larp
More like if they made our calms not suck and our blinds not suck for PvM we'd have more tools to use.Quote:
Originally Posted by ameratsu
u are very aggressive to gettin nts the shine they need and very good pvper. u also possess great observations skills.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hacre
how come u didnt win professional? ive never seen mastablasta ingame or in bs. but i guess hes more pvm..
i dnt know whats the deal man honestly, i dnt see anyone fightin as hard as u do for nts...
Ask the folks that didn't vote for me. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ameratsu
My aggression for the NT cause also has a habit of turning away voters. Not to mention it wasn't only people with NTs voting.
Mastablasta has experience with the post from the past and has communicated with us pretty well. I'm not sure where December has been. /shrug
However bear in mind that we're not privy to what the professionals are doing in the background when it comes to fighting for the cause.
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Originally Posted by Hacre
well somebody needs to step up or nts wnt be anything but pnh/NS buffers..we've already lost alot of fire power..next its gonna be our defense, then i guess we be npcs? that just watch and buff.
we need to get more aggressive in forums..they cried for le nukes to be nerfed now they gone. next cb is out the window, after that nukes will go. the QQ wnt end.
We've been told we're getting a whole new toolset. Not much more we can talk about until we see what that new toolset is.Quote:
Originally Posted by ameratsu
Hacre needs to relax and go out more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hacre
Also NTs need a detaunt. And working blinds for pvm. And so that casting all that stuff wouldn't affect our nukes cast/recharge, in other words wouldn't lower our DD. As it is now I better have aggro on myself from a non debuffed mob than bother casting blinds, detaunts, layers, calms or roots simply because then I won't have any time to do damage.
Uh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Calamite
Lower level NTs need a detaunt. 215+ has one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calamite
The sacrificing coverage for range effects seems a good idea :) I think it is better to have AoE cone nuke start from NT to your target, anything in between path get damage too. The closer the mob to you the more dmg it gets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Esproc
We already have stream damage nukes like LE nukes, just that it should deal only a third dmg(33%) of what it is now. So people wont even complaint.
May be a single knockback nuke or AoE knockback nuke isnt a bad idea too.