You can bet that burst/FA dented their nanopool though and probably made them run to a BY anyway.
If we're going to class who is OP by who can run into a BY then almost everyone needs a nerf. Also 5 PvPers on an NT under NBG and the NT can still get to a BY? Really? None of you have a root graft? Come on.
I haven't said anything about glass cannon in a while, even though the phrase still somewhat fits. Perhaps try playing one instead of playing classes NTs are designed to kill and maybe you'll get some better perspective.
This is as ridiculous as me shouting for Soldier nerfs because you can gnak an Enforcer with big silly hard hitting specials (far faster than an NT can gank one without NBS, FYI) and make it to a BY while TEN people are on you under AMS! OMG Nerf!
It's easy to exaggerate and spit vitriol at classes you don't like much because they can kill you. But that's not for these forums. How come I can refrain from screaming for nerfs to Traders, the profession I absolutely hate the most, yet anyone NTs can kill just see these forums as an open bloodsport to get NTs smacked back down the PvP ladder?
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TBH, both cases are stupidly out of balance, but enf can always get 3 blockers. What can rest of people do in NT case? Train NR8?
I'd really like to see this gimp squad that you're talking about here. 5 people, let's say they all have AS and they all shoot on the NT. That's pretty much guaranteed to empty that NT's nanopool. If they all have a second special or a perk special each, then that NT will be dead...
Thor Mastablasta Hammersmith - Level 220, AI 30, LE 70 Clan Atrox Nano Technician - Setup
The Red Brotherhood
I'm a Nano-Technician, don't ever expect me to fight unbuffed, alone or fair.
Means: about f'ing time :P
Satenia: heresy <3
Znore: Mastablasta <3
Kinkstaah: I have agro from many mobs ;(
Madarab: we are aoe class, we are supose to use pistols
Marxgorm: the NT toolset does not fit into my raiding tactics
Don't be lonely anymore.
Look at your post, now back at mine. Now back to your post, now back at mine. Sadly, yours isn't mine, but if you stopped trolling and started posting legitimate comments it could look like mine. Look down, back up, where are you? You're scrolling through posts, reading the posts your posts could look like. Back at mine, it's a reply saying something you want to hear. Look again, my reply is now diamonds. Anything is possible when you think before you post.
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Thor Mastablasta Hammersmith - Level 220, AI 30, LE 70 Clan Atrox Nano Technician - Setup
The Red Brotherhood
I'm a Nano-Technician, don't ever expect me to fight unbuffed, alone or fair.
Means: about f'ing time :P
Satenia: heresy <3
Znore: Mastablasta <3
Kinkstaah: I have agro from many mobs ;(
Madarab: we are aoe class, we are supose to use pistols
Marxgorm: the NT toolset does not fit into my raiding tactics
Lol Klod, you really should relog and repimp your toon and see how the situation changed since you left about two years ago (well, even then your toon wasn't exactly a endgame toon, but nowadays everyone can be endgame in about a week).
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Noim, Neutral TL7 NT
Sethis, Neutral TL7 Keeper
Anthraxal, Omni TL5 Enfotrox
When you have a toolset that counters one prof very well and allows you to easily beat them most of the time you are their nemesis. When you have a toolset that counters half the profs in game very well and allows you to easily beat them you are no longer a nemesis. You are just OP.
Easily beat half the profs in game? Pardon?
Lets assume, for a moment the following professions are a given:
Fixers
Soldiers (good Soldiers aren't a given, but I'm being generous here).
MPs (still not the "easy" kill that Fixers are, especially if they land eNSD to slow us down or the divest damage nano).
3 is half of 14? Since when?
Engineers? Nope, with the new Pistol perks and almost impossible to CC pets and having to stop for 1-4s when casting, they're not easily beaten.
Crats? Bad ones are easy yes, but good ones aren't, especially pistol ones.
Enforcers? Lol no.
Keepers? Not ones with a clue.
Traders? Lol no.
Advies? Lol no.
Agents? Lol no. Unless they're FP <something that isn't doc> but just, lol there really.
Docs? Lol no.
MA? 50/50 depending on who sees who first. This might change with the Red Dusk nerf. In fact I'll move Shade down here too for that reason.
Shades? 50/50 depending on who sees who first.
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On BS almost everyone is an easy kill where people generally don't pay attention to what's going on around them because they're already distracted (or just don't care). It's true that it's easy to kill someone when they let you, ever heard of the term "sitting duck" ?
Hacre's list is more accurate for duel type situations.
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I never played an end game NT. I just see it happening. I miss FA quite often with about 3.7k ar on good nt's and I'm guessing so do other soldiers.
Other profs with low without AS just don't hit the nt. Which could be the reason I see nt's get away teh way I described.
That miss only happens often if you're blinded and dazzled, or just dazzle or blinded by a Trox NT with wit up. Standing NT dodge def rating including aad is about 2.9-3.1k with an aad tower and focus tower, toward the 3.1k end if the NT uses dalja skirt/mystical shirt/regular notucomm back instead of Scouts and Modified Notucomm.
Missing often with no debuffs on you means that NT has a Crat nearby or you're incredibly unlucky.
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Not going to get into a comparison between soldiers and NT's with you guys. You know very well that nt's are at the very top of the food chain along with traders.
I can accept that I have literally 0 defenses against nt's and there is no way to change it. But I don't accept that NT's have both the ability to own me quickly while I can barely dent their hp with my proclaimed "ubah offense".
That's far from being a glass cannon and it calls to be balanced.
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Compared to who?
Do you, Mister Soldier, think Enforcers or Keepers consider NTs and Traders the top of the food chain and just find Soldiers something easily brushed off?
If you can't dent an NT that hasn't cast NBG then there's things you can do for that but I'm not going to spell it out for you. If they've cast NBG, which is made SUPER OBVIOUS now you can see nanos running on your target, do the smart thing, when the double or triple hits, root graft and run away.
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