Christ shield MP's have a ridiculous amount of def already
Christ shield MP's have a ridiculous amount of def already
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Yeah lord knows those of us with 3000+ AR cant perk the good ones without debuffing them. But yeah, they need more defense....right.
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endgame equiped bow mp got around 3200def with SS up. almost every class can perk on that.
heal pet healing 1500~ in 7.5s so most of time its alpha from some1 and dead mp.
Last edited by Perskules; Jul 6th, 2010 at 17:22:41.
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And it cost 10 perks for 15 seconds only =)Dazzle with Lights debuffs AR (-300) and inits (-800)... and can be maintained nearly 50% of the time (exactly 50% after rebalancing).
Ofc, if u smart enough you can kill someone in 15 seconds with couple ASes =)
But it is not 50%, id say like 10%
I prefer to perk in FS3 and TR6 instead.
That debufs are lols =)And there's damage debuffs, Damage/Init debuffs
The only actual debuff that make difference in PVP is NSD/eNSD - and it is the only MP unique power. (Will be nerfed also as everything MP can use )
Healing and nano damage debufs are good also, but in most situations we have no chance to land them.
And the final lol - MP has no debufs at all if he want blockers ))
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Aye... like I said, you can argue the value or otherwise - but they are there. That argument is going to change fairly dramatically after rebalancing too... so it's difficult to say just how things are going to look.
DwL can be used every 35 seconds (30 after rebalancing) and lasts 15 seconds - so you can maintain it ~50% of the time. That will no doubt be especially true once AAD is removed from the defence calculation on it in the rebalancing, since it has a 70% NR def check.
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MP is just ahead of non evading profs, always been that way and that's only if you use css or scouts too.
Even enfos are ahead of non-shield MP in defense.
Shield MP has the best defense of non-evade profs.
Instead we get debuffs, like damage debuffs and nsd, though both have no real effect on anything we actually need to use it on
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Considering how much HP a MP has, a 50% damage to pet may as well be a 50% reflect buff, because its not like the pet is going to die if it takes 10% dmg.
It also doesnt invalidate AR, perks, and classes that use them and be on/off like evades are (bad).
When MP's got love, they were undisputably the best class in PVP, and you had a horde of FOTM MP's. Shouldn't really pretend any different.
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MP in sneak eNSDed me and did about 20k damage in 10-12 seconds
killing MP pets is often a suitable concession when you realize there's no way to kill the shield weilding MP.
Clearly, we can all see what the problem is: MP is a dichotomy class, just like shades: either, they are unkillable with shield, and have f*ckall for offence, or, they have a bow, are reasonably proficient in killing, and suffer similar problems in defence as other classes.
Seriously, I don't know what you guys are huffing about. Mharut has like 109 duel wins and 1 loss or something, clearly, MP's need help :/
My crat has a higher static def rating than my shield mp. Adv's have about the same def rating as a shield mp with limber going.
Anything that makes my pets die faster is a terrible idea. Until pets get a proper fix in cast/buff times or the time it takes to kill them (lack thereof).
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Here's how to fix MP's imo: make Hostility Scourge work on any and all perk damage and change SS to a lockout so bow MP's can actually then make use of it. All the while keeping (non shield MPs) as semi-evaders. Of course this should only be the beginning, but a change like this would probably make the biggest difference looking at the way MPs stand pre-balancing. Pets still need considerable improvement and outdated/crappy aspects of our toolset need updating (dominates, notum rejection, mez pet, etc.). And ofc there's the pvm side of having the least to offer a team of any profession in the game, but that's another thread.
Last edited by Mountaingoat; Jul 9th, 2010 at 04:04:54.
DwL wont land everytime, suprisingly, with all the aad we got ingame post LE, that whole perk line got less and less usefull, granted, i dont play my mp pretty much at all for quite a time already, but from what i remember the profs i would need it most against it wont land on
Im sure i dont have too explain this too a fellow mp, but with the stuns duration vs recharge rate its usefullness is heavyly limited, especially as a defensive tool
Evade procs- with bow mps attack rating dont hit off often enuff nowadays, besides they are procs, not something you can even remotely count on being up when you need it
Dmg debuffs - as much as they are underestimated casting those in a mass pvp environment is a suicide, its sad as ****, but were forced too use SS in mass pvp to survive ( bow mps )
Active AAD on SS - add 200 aao on cast target, so vs your main target ( unless cast on self or a random gimp arround in mass pvp ) its only +50 aad
Blockers - the pvp environment changed a bit since SS and other newer mp toys were intorduced, 5 not self refreshing, 30 sec recharge blockers aint same cool stuff as they were 2-3 years ago
should have started off with this i think, ofc saying we got literally only evades was somewhat of an understatement, fact is tho that with every1s ar going up by what, 0,5k ar? in the last 3 years or so, our other defenses aint even remotely close to being as effective as they used too,,,
im willing to bet money on that if our evades/aad were too be bumped by the value that most profs got their AR improved over the last years, bow mps survivability would sky rocket
ofc it would op shield mps, so preferably it woud be a bow mp only lub
PS. shield mps aint as godly unkillable bastards as it seems most would think they are, at least form the perspective of my doc, i can kill most shield mps while tankin half a team of random enemies, excluding some obvious prof combos
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MP in sneak eNSDed me and did about 20k damage in 10-12 seconds
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