Fix The Shot in next patch??

[Graftmage]

Cortez used a melee alpha, wich is NOT intended for an agent.

ORLY

[Lupusceleri]

Now now, please make a nice circle around the following skills as well Graft:

"Piercing"
"FastAttack"
"Parry"
"Riposte"
"Dimach"

What, they are almost all dark blue?!

[Graftmage]

Now now, please make a nice circle around the following skills as well Graft:

"Piercing"
"FastAttack"
"Parry"
"Riposte"
"Dimach"

What, they are almost all dark blue?!

You almost (or at all) dont need IP there to equip PE
"Agents are not intended to have melee alpha" when the only green weapon skill is sneak attack ir just lol'able

[howlin]

Bump for some bug fixing.

[Pafpuf]

Pafpuf: Looking at Cortez and saying that "All Agents should be like that"

I'm not saying all agents should play like that, it's your choice to be an efficient assassin or ride the CH tanking failroad whinority.

What you see of Cortez is his best moments, one side of the deal. He didn't post his deaths or his failed ganks, just his successes.

Uh huh and everyone else who makes videos only captures their best moments, only difference is he had a lot more then you or any other noob like you ever will.

We are, we're playing THE assassin in the game, that just a fact that will remain. Get some clue ^^

Sorry I don't roleplay, I see things as they are. Just because the game manual says agents are assassins doesn't mean they are which is easy to decipher by their function and abilities in game.

If you see a black and white tv inside a box which says colour tv, and the manual says it's a colour tv, will you believe it's a colour tv even though the picture is grayscale ?

[Ebondevil]

You almost (or at all) dont need IP there to equip PE
"Agents are not intended to have melee alpha" when the only green weapon skill is sneak attack ir just lol'able

Yes, an interesting hold over from before Shadowlands which has never been changed and gets some use,in a time when professions could more easily try out different weapons to see what suited them best, before perks came along making specific weapons for a profession more effective, though the Agent Rifle/AS perks barely manage to improve an Agent's DD over time compared to other weapons an Agent could use. Yes, Agent perks are that slow to Execute and/or Recharge.

As for Sneak Attack being part of the Agent toolset, you might as well say Chemistry Tradeskilling is part of the Agent toolset or that Sneak Attack is part of the Fixer Toolset since they have a nano that buffs it eg. Back Pain

Though I would agree with you, Sneak Attack being the only green weapon skill Agents have is Lol'able, they should change it to dark blue and they should change Aimed Shot and Rifle to green and Fling shot to light blue or Turquoise IMO.

Finally the PE hotswap relies on a weapon from Patch 15.8 and Patch 15.4, while the M150 Hotswap relies on the same weapon from 15.8 and a weapon introduced in Patch 11 and nerfed in Patch 15.0.1, while other profession are complaining about having to use one weapon in their off hand that is either older or nearly as old.

Agents that have totally nerfed their setups into becoming Anti social Gankers should not be the base line that other Agents are compared to.

[Klodovik]

WTB one green weapon skill.

[Pafpuf]

As for Sneak Attack being part of the Agent toolset, you might as well say Chemistry Tradeskilling is part of the Agent toolset or that Sneak Attack is part of the Fixer Toolset since they have a nano that buffs it eg. Back Pain

The Fixer toolset is buffing others.

Agents that have totally nerfed their setups into becoming Anti social Gankers should not be the base line that other Agents are compared to.

You just said agents that play like assassins (anti-social ganker = assassin) aren't real agents. Therefore agents aren't assassins. Thanks for clearing that up, professional.

[Hacre]

And since when was I talking about NT nano recharge time?

Where did I say you did? Did I say OH AYRIA *gasp* YOU AND YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT NT NANO RECHARGES!! *horror*? Sorry to burst your ego, but not everything I say or do is directed at or revolves around you.

If you want to we can talk about perspectives and how humans perceive time slower when it is against them but that is theoretical discussions and probably to much for you.

"too". Not "to". But still, nice attempt at insulting my intelligence while using an incorrect word to do so.

And getting Master the 'official' way isn't that hard if you sit in sneak and wait for people to be hurt or not paying attention then sweep in and take the kill and then run off to some backyard. I mean really, if I sit and wait for someone to be fighting someone else or sitting to heal or standing around talking (yes I know they are flagged and are the idiots but that doesn't change that it's an easy kill) it's not hard to fire off AS, perk/swap, SA etc etc. Sure you **** up, even Cortez did, the only thing you have to do is if your gank fails run the **** away like a coward child to a backyard and try again when your specials recharge; then call it PvP.

Like an Assassin, you mean? This isn't Hollywood, Snipers get their kill then gtfo. You want to be an Assassin? That's how it's done.

Is that what I want for Agents? Not really, I'd rather not be a coward ganker and call it PvP, but I guess that's how everyone PvPs and how Funcom wants it, so may as well go with the flow right?

Then stop claiming you're Assassins then, because that's what an Assassin is, fast surprise kill, gtfo.

FC did and do, you think otherwise, we get it. But why should anyone listen to you? Who's your endgame agent?

Because an understanding of game mechanics requires this? Really? Also FYI, not all my characters, nor all my end game characters are in my signature. Just my original (Hacre) and my active ones.

We are, we're playing THE assassin in the game, that just a fact that will remain.

So play it like one.

Cortez used a melee alpha, wich is NOT intended for an agent.

Green Sneak Attack skill, which I believe Graft has already cleared up.

Cortez could die to a tl6 player with his HP and evades.

So?

Cortez used a special gaming keyboard with combined actions bind to special keys. Not everyone has one.

So get one, or, quit believing rumours. Being someone who has actually spoken to Kink about his Agent and his videos, he only used such a keyboard for a very short period of time, because it was found to be inefficient and often failed. So, the large majority of those kills, were done manually, FYI.

STOP refering to some guy who, altho made a very good job killing his targets, gimped his toon just for ganks and used some weird keyboard...and also posted only his successes in those clips. Don't be fkin retards! Especially you Pifpoc. You have trolled every agent thread without even posessing the basic knowledge of the agent profession, not to mention agent behavior in pvp....
Fix The Shot or god damn make all other AI perks work like The Shot!

Yes, stop pointing out someone who was one of the best ASSASSINS while playing what is apparently (according to everyone whining in this thread) an ASSASSIN class. Jeez people.

Oh and Kink didn't only include his successes in his videos.

[Lupusceleri]

I wish they changed Sneakattack to dark blue just to shut these idiots up, with their "AGENT IS MAEK 4 MELLE ALFA OLOL CUS HAF GREEN SNEKATK" crap.

No need to give us something else in turn for it.

[Lupusceleri]

You almost (or at all) dont need IP there to equip PE
"Agents are not intended to have melee alpha" when the only green weapon skill is sneak attack ir just lol'able

Graft, again, get a clue.

You need to dump alot of IP into Piercing, especially in case you're using CSS. Need 1201 piercing to equip the weapon. With an endgame evade-ish equip (300 symbs, 300 L-Arm with Bright piercing cluster, AI armor, etc), you get 1146 Piercing selfbuffed, maxed.

To get those last 50ish points, you can either:

a) use CC - lose 15 def rating, 30 conceal, 30 perception per armorpiece.
b) use Rarm implant with Piercing (losing 21 AAO, 137 FA, 137 fling, weaponrange, nanorange).
c) dump perks into COLI losing whatever you perked before.
d) use Dreadloch Stab thingie + less perks into COLI.

That's 759.500 IP points spent into Piercing for maxing it btw. Combined with various other sacrifices to your other offense OR defense.

Then again, I'm supposedly just a noob.

EDIT: Wait, what, I wasn't done bashing Graft yet!

Dimach: You're going to have to raise it over 1k, but best is to max it, or you'll get sh*tty Dimach's against the professions where you'll actually NEED Dimach for. Another 706.112 IP down the drain.

SneakAttack: While green, you'll also have to max this one, or else you get ****ty SneakAttacks. Another 604.440 IP down the drain.

And with all that said. I had my frand Biggysmallz try a couple of SA's on me in the arena. He capped maybe one in five?

[Pafpuf]

Why would you wanna have def rating if you're gonna gank people ? If you don't wanna sacrifice anything, don't complain.

I used a burden on a fricken fixer just so I could hotswap hawk mk6 to instagib people (back with 40% caps). And it worked, I could instakill just about anyone at the price of ~1.1k def rating. It was well worth it.

You could now say I gimped myself, just like you say cortez did, how do you think all those people who died and wondered "what the f*ck just happened" felt ? I doubt that they thought "what a gimp lulz" for a second.

[Lupusceleri]

Why would you wanna have def rating if you're gonna gank people ? If you don't wanna sacrifice anything, don't complain.

I used a burden on a fricken fixer just so I could hotswap hawk mk6 to instagib people (back with 40% caps). And it worked, I could instakill just about anyone at the price of ~1.1k def rating. It was well worth it.

Uh. Wat.

Why the hell would you need a burden to swap a Supernova in? Or a QL275 (or even 250) Hawk6?

If I, as a fixer, had to choose between QL200 Supernova plus QL275 Hawk6 minus 1.1k def rating, or a QL200 Supernova plus QL250 Hawk6 plus 1.1k def rating......

Let's just say it'd be a really easy choice. A no-brainer, in fact.

Why I would want to have def rating when I'm going to gank people..... To get away after I did the job maybe? Typically your victim is in a zerg of OMG ANGRY OMNI or OMG ANGRY CLANNERS. So having a bit more chance to get away == good.

PS: Weren't you wearing the burden because you had perked NR so you couldn't cast the SWS anymore? Last time I checked perking NR doesn't give you extra SMG or FA or AS. Just NR.

[Klodovik]

I belive he used QL300 one tho.

[Pafpuf]

Where did I mention I had a 275 or 250 hawk ? I had a ql 300 one. You know, it does more damage than it's lower level buddies. Where did I mention I wanted to use one of those ? Damage and attack rating is what I want when I try to kill someone.

If you, as a fixer, had to choose you'd be cookie cutter setup because you don't know how to make sacrifices in order to achieve your goal. It's a no-brainer, in fact.

I wore a burden because I needed FA trickle to be able to hotswap hawk mk6 (back then people were barely able to equip it in str/sta/fa gear, let alone hotswap), I could because I had every possible item plus level 250 contracts and towers the entire time.
NR2 was just a phase to try to counter the new OP NT nukes. It didn't last long though.

Why I would want to have def rating when I'm going to gank people..... To get away after I did the job maybe? Typically your victim is in a zerg of OMG ANGRY OMNI or OMG ANGRY CLANNERS. So having a bit more chance to get away == good.

Typically only a brainless tard will attack anyone anytime in the middle of a zerg. If you attack at an opportune moment you'll be able to get away with no defenses at all.

Having a bit more chance to finish your job > having a bit more chance of getting away after you failed because you had that little less chance to finish your job.

Besides, you'd make a pretty crappy assassin if you setup yourself for survival instead of offense. Sadly, that's what the majority of the agent population is. Pretty crappy assassins, trying to tank people and complaining about how vulnerable they are to debuffs when fighting someone (or more) toe to toe. Hello ? I lol at all the noobs who put on hp gear, go fp doc and call themselves assassins.

L2play, really.

[Graftmage]

why the hell would you want defence if you are ass asins, lolz

[Hacre]

NR2 was just a phase to try to counter the new OP NT nukes. It didn't last long though.

It didn't work too badly in its goal though, I recall you countering CB on a number of occasions, let alone IU/triple/double etc.

[Pafpuf]

Yeah but it wasn't worth it really. I go all the way or don't bother at all

[Hacre]

Yeah but it wasn't worth it really. I go all the way or don't bother at all

Lol so I've heard

In before the "ya so we heard, lolz pregnant" trolls.

[Ebondevil]

You just said agents that play like assassins (anti-social ganker = assassin) aren't real agents. Therefore agents aren't assassins. Thanks for clearing that up, professional.

No, I said it shouldn't be the baseline.

And Assassin is not the same as ganking.

Ganking is either ganging up on an opponent or killing them before they can react, Assassination is killing them regardless of how they react.

As assassins Agents should have a better chance of killing anyone than they currently do, hugging teleporters and farming damage for kills, or using outdated weapons Agents don't have support for should not be the tools needed to be a successful Agent.

P.S. I don't do either and I do manage to get some kills, very frustrating to be attacking someone for ages though and not able to kill them because of huge damage mitigation.

Edit: Assassinations should be short, but give the target some means of escape.