Doc's Left Hand looted

[Serchin]

So I was messing around today with my org mates today and decided to try and get the a Doc pistol to drop.

A little background, I have a 220 Doc and have shelved her because I was tired of feeling like I had made the wrong choice rolling a Doc. I mean I like the fact that a Doc can solo anything but having no defense because you have to stay full agg to cast anything in less than 1.5 years. I guess maybe they cant figure out a way to fix the problem that a Doc can out heal just about anything.

Point is after 2 years of playing the Doc and 4 total years of playing AO Im to tired of this game they play with us. I cant equip the newest Doc weps without Alien Armor. I have a 220 Sol and could get the D Shark no problem from 210. I dont know about any other profs and Dreadloch weps but I suspect its the same.

Why do Docs have to go through all this crap. I mean cut the heals in half and improve our DD. This whole thing is really getting old. If the Doc prof isnt fixed I wont stick around here, I will cancel both of my accounts. I wont be trying AoC for sure because they will probably use the same mentality that got them here in AO.

I guess Im just pissed. Does anyone else feel this way? Maybe if enough people agree we could stage a strike of sorts where no Docs log. No raids, Missions or quest that cant be done without Docs. What do you guys think?

[RobotJunk]

Uhm. Is your problem that the pistol you looted didnt go on when you right clicked it? Some error message about requirements?

I think that's what supposed to separate the good from the great.

[Berinda]

Docs have trouble equipping good weapons. They make up for it when they allow their team to survive being attacked by multiple 30 foot tall monsters.

I fail to see your complaint, other than doctors aren't damage dealers. If that is your complaint, yes you rolled the wrong profession and adventurer would suit you well if you want good survivability and decent weaponry to use all on your lonesome.

[Syphae]

So I was messing around today with my org mates today and decided to try and get the a Doc pistol to drop.

A little background, I have a 220 Doc and have shelved her because I was tired of feeling like I had made the wrong choice rolling a Doc. I mean I like the fact that a Doc can solo anything but having no defense because you have to stay full agg to cast anything in less than 1.5 years. I guess maybe they cant figure out a way to fix the problem that a Doc can out heal just about anything.

Point is after 2 years of playing the Doc and 4 total years of playing AO Im to tired of this game they play with us. I cant equip the newest Doc weps without Alien Armor. I have a 220 Sol and could get the D Shark no problem from 210. I dont know about any other profs and Dreadloch weps but I suspect its the same.

Why do Docs have to go through all this crap. I mean cut the heals in half and improve our DD. This whole thing is really getting old. If the Doc prof isnt fixed I wont stick around here, I will cancel both of my accounts. I wont be trying AoC for sure because they will probably use the same mentality that got them here in AO.

I guess Im just pissed. Does anyone else feel this way? Maybe if enough people agree we could stage a strike of sorts where no Docs log. No raids, Missions or quest that cant be done without Docs. What do you guys think?

I feel your pain... somewhat. There's no doc strike, I'm sorry to say because instead of docs going to zods and beast and apf they are out tanking ely hecks for org mates. Srlsy. I've seen 3-4 docs outside tanking leveling lowbies. Every omninet spam is whining for docs to come and apf hardly gets off the ground. I've seen apf with 1 maybe 2 docs and a soldier tanking. I even do a lot of tanking with my soldier. I think because the need for a doc is lesser.. FC should steer back to PFs and instances and things to do that make a NEED for a doc to be there no doubt. An instance so hard it gives the whiners something to do. I guess they'd whine it was too hard so that wouldn't last long.

Back to where I said I feel your pain.. My doctor is out of IPRs. Yeah it's easy to go get killed with the hope your side wins BS.. .oops I mean go grind the VP for an IPR, get spammed until you think the spammer is personally waiting for you to come to 42 and get an IPR there or pay more credits than I have on 2 accounts combined (yeah I'm poor, leave me alone). I've been melee, pistol, melee, melee, pistol and back to melee. Why do I keep going melee? god, I don't know tbh. Some people can pull it off with a sacrifice. I went shen/BoB combo. It's not where I'd like it to be but.. I think I'd be better off re-rolling.

The way I see it.. is if you want to do damage, an advy is the best choice while having the ability to heal. On a doc, yeah you can solo stuff but so can an advy and even a soldier or whatever. The only thing my doc does.. is heal. I can hit stuff with my OE weapons and keep you alive. Am I mad? Kinda but what am I going to do about it? If I've swapped weapons that many times between newb isle and 220, all the work I'd do to switch BACK to a weapon I've switched from would probably disappoint me some how.

At least you do damage even if it's little. You can heal and that's what a doc is best at. There's always going to be something in this game to complain about and your choices are hang up your weapons and retire, adapt to the new changes or roll something you think you'll enjoy more and go back to your doc. You'll find a new appreciation for it that way.

[Serchin]

Uhm. Is your problem that the pistol you looted didnt go on when you right clicked it? Some error message about requirements?

I think that's what supposed to separate the good from the great.

Yea ok so umm I guess I just sux cause I thought I could just right click and boom I would have all the phatz man. I mean I right clicked and I didnt have my Ultra Mega God Doc weapon equiped, I didnt have a full set of ql 300 Alien armor *zing* not only apear in my inv. but also equiped. I didnt have all the new DB stuff or the Alba stuff wtf am I doing wrong.

/rant off Look man sometimes people just need to vent. I dont expect it to come easy. I do however expect a few options. I mentioned in my post that Nobody and I mean NO DOC can equip the pistols without Alien armor. I didnt say I wanted to be top of the list DD, I love being a healer (I did mention the 220 Sol didn't I, no need for Doc top of the DD list).

Last but not least. You are absolutly right. If all the Docs went on strike who would level the 10 new subscribers and 200 old players that have nothing left to do but roll new toons. Sorry to have wasted your time guys. See ya around Ely with my new *******

[wyldebeast]

I see your point I think. The doc pistols are a bit stupid, but hey other profs would cry nerf and go eat cookies in a corner if we had it too easy. We have the best heals, no need for it to be easy to do DD too. But it's just that the DD is worthless. Even if we can kill stuff faster, in today's AO everyone can solo the hard stuff and no matter how much of a DD setup you have, a soldier will likely still solo LoTV faster than you. And don't get started on our ubah heals. APF and Pande only needs 1 awake doc. BS is more a "showerfest", standing in the Decon room waiting for your next insta death. Today, docs are worth more CH tanking for lowbie alts. At least there we get to use our amazing heals for something.

But me, I still love my doc more than any other toon I can think of. Docs just have something the others don't.

[DrLithvium]

I see your point I think. The doc pistols are a bit stupid, but hey other profs would cry nerf and go eat cookies in a corner if we had it too easy. We have the best heals, no need for it to be easy to do DD too. But it's just that the DD is worthless. Even if we can kill stuff faster, in today's AO everyone can solo the hard stuff and no matter how much of a DD setup you have, a soldier will likely still solo LoTV faster than you. And don't get started on our ubah heals. APF and Pande only needs 1 awake doc. BS is more a "showerfest", standing in the Decon room waiting for your next insta death. Today, docs are worth more CH tanking for lowbie alts. At least there we get to use our amazing heals for something.

But me, I still love my doc more than any other toon I can think of. Docs just have something the others don't.

Cuz a doc with dreadloch weapon or any other great weapon plus good healing gets respect and a ebaying solja with noobstick dont?

[Reziukas]

If the Doc prof isnt fixed I wont stick around here

I really don't get what's broken with docs? The fact that you have to come up with a few AI armor pieces once? How terrible and game breaking is that... It's not like you have to swap pistols 5 times a day and constantly require that set of supple'ish armor. Besides, if you have a sol, you should already have plenty of AI armor to play around with.

Not everything is a dshark

[Xinc]

You don't really need a doctor for apf or zods if the group your raiding with is good. Can just get 2-3 advys, works good enough :P

[wyldebeast]

You don't really need a doctor for apf or zods if the group your raiding with is good. Can just get 2-3 advys, works good enough :P

I think that answers Rezi's question on what is broken about docs. If we're not needed for our healing, what's left for the profession?

[Mmba]

i pose the following counter-question: is there any one profession that is more valuable than docs?

[MachSchau]

i pose the following counter-question: is there any one profession that is more valuable than docs?

Enforcers! Without them you would have mass hysteria in pande and 42!

[wyldebeast]

IMO there are more things in the game atm where a soldier would be a better choice than a doc. And then you could often make use with an advy instead. Docs are not that valuable any more. Even in pande or APF as already stated.

[Ober]

i pose the following counter-question: is there any one profession that is more valuable than docs?

For leveling lowbies? No, perhaps MP.

Beyond that? Perhaps one or two instances if the team isn't great otherwise.

[Mangia]

I really don't get what's broken with docs? The fact that you have to come up with a few AI armor pieces once? How terrible and game breaking is that... It's not like you have to swap pistols 5 times a day and constantly require that set of supple'ish armor. Besides, if you have a sol, you should already have plenty of AI armor to play around with.

Not everything is a dshark

I have 220 trox doc and i agree with Rezi, docs are fine ( talking about PvM here cuz i am not interested in PvP in this game ), its really horrible you have to equip few pieces of supple to wear our pistols...you just want to r-click them? I am running for some 2 months with 199 kyr and docs right hand cuz i am missing the supple for multiranged, but i am making my way there, just need helm, sleeve and chest, but i am enjoying my doc every second

And about teams... I am on lft like for 20 secs and i am getting invite, that being with 220 adv, 208 enf and 219 sold on my acc, none of these getting teams so fast

[Mangia]

and to ppl saying apf or zods can go without doc... tell me how? never been on apf or zods without doc, i just dont get it ( i am not saying its not possible but youre counting on 220/30 ppls in best equip with few years of experience or what?... really curious )

[Nanofox1]

I think because the need for a doc is lesser.. FC should steer back to PFs and instances and things to do that make a NEED for a doc to be there no doubt. An instance so hard it gives the whiners something to do. I guess they'd whine it was too hard so that wouldn't last long.

Anything that -needs- a doc will be complained about and get nerfed so doable with an agent or adv or two instead. See Atalas.

[Xinc]

and to ppl saying apf or zods can go without doc... tell me how? never been on apf or zods without doc, i just dont get it ( i am not saying its not possible but youre counting on 220/30 ppls in best equip with few years of experience or what?... really curious )

Non zerg (well, kzods did TNH before with 4 advys 0 docs and like a total of 12 people) raids were people aren't complete noobs.

[Syphae]

Anything that -needs- a doc will be complained about and get nerfed so doable with an agent or adv or two instead. See Atalas.

I agree because people don't see docs as dd. Ofc that kinda sucks but, what else is a doctor suppose to do.. heal. The harm part of it is like making someone overdose. Slow pain, ends in death.

[Redbar]

i pose the following counter-question: is there any one profession that is more valuable than docs?

Docs make PvM encounters easier. The problem is that a lot of things are already sufficiently easy that people instead prefer _faster_, and I've no doubt the average doc will supply less damage/min than the average DD-centric profession.

So for inf 220 easy SK grinding, I'd say anyone that can OD a doc[1] is often regarded as more "valuable". (not to mention crats, where a lot of people kiss their feet even when they're not attacking with their XP pistols while being on /follow with no charms).

For leveling lowbies? No, perhaps MP.

A good enf is pretty much the same as a doc for pocketing