View Poll Results: Should the 50% reduction in PVP be applied after the hard caps

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  • Yes

    388 56.89%
  • No

    256 37.54%
  • I don't mind as I don't PVP much

    38 5.57%
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Thread: Official Poll - Reducing Special attacks in PVP

  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by Myga View Post
    The problem with this patch is that you make everyone take 40% damage through reflect shield. So why you make this poll about something which wont change that other than for ppl with more than 16250 hp or 18750hp (for as/fa)? 40% dmg through reflect is the real problem here, not this.
    Exactly. Hardcaps wont help those with "normal" hp at all. And they wont help anyone at lower levels coz you cant get the hp for them to have effect.

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Extraa View Post
    Dont nerf As..
    Dont nerf Fa
    Dont nerf Coon
    add refleckt dmg on Le Nukes
    bump

    I vote yes on the poll for 2 reasons:
    1) I've given up on trying to convince FC that nerfing absorbs was a HORRIBLE way to solve the NT problem.
    2) I want to spite all the people that took pleasure in spiting me. How does it feel?

  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by Ocene View Post
    Another note.

    Instead of proposing AS/FA reductions...How about checking all the professions and working on creating a BALANCED environment for PVP?

    Explain to me why Advys/Engis/Keepers are still so overpowered. What will a nerfed AS/FA do? It will bring even more unbalance to the game, great..................NOT!

    Bring more PVP balance to this game and make it fair for every prof (yes, including MPs, Crats and Shades).
    AS has been overpowered as long as I can remember... FA is ****ing insane vs non evade profs... these are specials that should be adjusted.. ofcourse more stuff should be corrected.. we started with absorbs and now the uber specials are next.

    IMO I can live with the cocoon nerf if I see that its not the only thing that is going to be adjusted.
    Harios - [Enforcer] cookies 220/30
    Advass - [Adventurer] nerf 220/21
    Wackios - [Shade] gankzsz 220/16
    Soldios - [Soldier] FA Burst 220/22
    Docios - [Doctor] healsplxz 220/20
    Cratios - [Bureaucrat] tape 220/19
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  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by Harios View Post
    IMO I can live with the cocoon nerf if I see that its not the only thing that is going to be adjusted.
    yea. That too.

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by Harios View Post
    AS has been overpowered as long as I can remember... FA is ****ing insane vs non evade profs... these are specials that should be adjusted.. ofcourse more stuff should be corrected.. we started with absorbs and now the uber specials are next.

    IMO I can live with the cocoon nerf if I see that its not the only thing that is going to be adjusted.
    But seriously harios.... How would a agent kill anything? if aimed shot gets nerfed.. Perk kill an enforcer? Perk kill a doc? not gonna happen.. How about Adv, shade, fix, ma, crat ? most likely wont land perks.. AS takes less hp than it takes them to regain in 10 sec... Traders, if they land 1 drain... you cant perk them either.. MPs, yeah ok maybe they could beat MPs... Im not saying coon nerf was needed.. And i do not understand why FC did that.. But come on... This is ruining AO were talking about... Because that is whats gonna happen..

  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by Juzzif View Post
    Any idea how much evades you need to evade a FA from a 220 soldier today? solds land 40% FA on advs with DoF up, at least...
    And I go 1 on 1 with NTs at BS and wtfpwn them. Why? Because they suck more ass than a pornstar working overtime. There's couple of NTs at BS who kick my ass every time.

    Keep the gimps and gumps out of this, please.
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  7. #147
    i can live with the cocoon nerf also, if hp would be usefull for us enforcers..mainly this 50% reduction on aimshot and full auto

    would be great to see it live someday
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  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by Tza View Post
    And I go 1 on 1 with NTs at BS and wtfpwn them. Why? Because they suck more ass than a pornstar working overtime. There's couple of NTs at BS who kick my ass every time.

    Keep the gimps and gumps out of this, please.
    Not sure i got your point, please re phrase

    Did you mean that the vote should be restricted to people who actually know what their talking about?
    Last edited by Juzzif; Feb 8th, 2007 at 17:24:19. Reason: .

  9. #149
    Definitely no
    Tergx 220 Atrox Trader | 220 Soli doc | 220 Enf & other toons
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    Come on, it took me just 5 minutes to kill a level 178 MA with health-drains and trader pets...our toolset does work

  10. #150
    It would only affect enfos and docs/agents with extra HP setup anyhow. (Leaving those docs require a smaller army to kill...)
    Fixer - Solja Lite
    Adv - Forgotten lubchild
    Trader - Nerfed Professional

  11. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by Bereavement View Post
    No, delete this poll (most of the people do not know what they are voting for)
    You read my mind

  12. #152
    id really hate to see world of warcraft damage come to ao lol

  13. #153
    You are actually considering to nerf the only offensive attack docs have against e.g. an enforcer?

    This will nerf all ranged toons to s***, and keep melee advs,enfs,keeps,nt's as the numero uno in AO.

    Let the NT nukes check vs reflects. Remove limber/dof from advs - but do not nerf AS/FA. If so, I don't see any reason why you shouldnt nerf the melee profs aswell, dimach,sa,backstab.

    I'm joining the "bye, im out due to this fu*ked up patch"-crew if it ever goes live.
    Sauran 220 Solitus Doctor RK2
    Tehshade 220 Opifex Shade RK2
    Roycecat 150 Solitus Engineer RK2
    Poadrim 170 Trox Enforcer RK2

  14. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Racatti View Post
    It would only affect enfos and docs/agents with extra HP setup anyhow. (Leaving those docs require a smaller army to kill...)
    Agents can't get same HP advantages as a doc and enfs, we have no prof perks, that add HP, and we lose many AR in HP setup for perking most of evade-based characters. But it will be an option, get pure defensive HP setup.

    Enforcers should have benefits from huge HP amount, they are tanks...

    It will stop "AS war" and push people doing team-based PvP game instead of solo-farming titles with huge AS.

  15. #155
    While this would improve the survivability of the squishiest professions slightly, any profession that is already pretty good receives a huge boost in their survivability, I'm especially thinking of the classes with heals, it already takes 3+ people's alphas hitting at once to take down a decent doc at 220, after this it will take 6.
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  16. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Juzzif View Post
    Not sure i got your point, please re phrase

    Did you mean that the vote should be restricted to people who actually know what their talking about?


    I'd just say the guy who posted that originally should get a clue - maybe read what Mishie posted. All specials (and perks) have counters - AS only have blockers, however
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  17. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by Galileus View Post
    Sil, make a poll for

    "DO You want a Quest for Burden?"

    - Yes
    - No

    Why wouldn't you do that then?
    lol somthing i can 100% agree with, since so many new people making 220 (i hate raid bots and the grind) i reached 220 way before LE and still have no burden.. boohoo

  18. #158
    Please respect each others opinions folks. Just because you disagree on a subject doesn't mean you have to insult each other or imply the those with differing opinions don't know what they are talking about.

    As I said at the top the poll was just to gauge people opinion (and as it appears so far to demonstrate the clearly split opinion we suspected) not because any decision has been made.
    Craig 'Silirrion' Morrison
    Old Timer

  19. #159
    you would need to check heals, evades, some perks damage and nukes.

    i was having high hopes in lE and then in the 17.x patches, but you are destroying any confidence i have in your decisions on how to address changes.

    Instead of balancing professions, fix after fix you are widening the gaps, and throwing some professions that were in the middle ground to oblivion.

  20. #160
    Hardcaps would nerf evade profs into oblivion...

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