Originally posted by THEDEACON!
Bah, it's not very overpowering, nowhere near what I expected. A good init debuff works wonders.
MAs can do bbcs or shen and debuff inits like 500 or 550. Um, true MAs still suck ass in pvp, but imagine this:
(ignoring the obvious doctor debuff references)
An MP with crap health, say around 4k and no weapon other than fists has a damned good chance of beating an eqb enforcer. The max damage you can do to him would be 1600. a first aid stim and a single pet heal will have him back at full health.
Then he does bbcs or shen....-550 or 500 to melee init respectively.
Then he does Wrath Abatement for another -261 init and -37 to damage (yeah that damage debuff part does suck, but every little bit helps). the key is to survive the first ten seconds when an enforcer has rage and flurry running. And that's actually mostly luck
But that's a healthy init debuff, especially considering the need to go full aggro to hit at all with the queen blade, opening up for debuffs. With a gigantic glaring weakness such as that, I'd hardly call that overpowering at all. The same goes with Manex. I don't care how much damage it does in theory or pvm, you're not going past that 40% cap in pvp. I see GA fixers wielding a manex in pvp and shake my head. It's great in certain situations, but the old adage "the best offense is a good defense" holds true in spades.
It actually behooves a physically weak profession such as MP to rip out the shining life and go with a shining nanopool, because with an enforcer fighting on full aggro, every nuke is going to land, every regular shot is going to land, pet hits are going to land, nanoskills and init debuffs are going to land as soon as rage runs out.
Bottom line is, queen blade is not overpowering. You gain alot offensively but you lose so much defensive skills that it really negates any claims of being overpowered. I think it's fine the way it is.
OMG! You always play so silly, I dont think I ever realized how damn smart you are with game mechanics...
I always thought quite highly of you D, but I have a new found respect!
great post, explains well enough...
The people complaining about enforcers pwning expect to hit q and specials alone to be competitive...
enforcers have rage, mongo, challenger, layers, FoB, specials, stims, and enf tank going on all the time to be competitive (ok you all can add your items too now)
Deacon roxor in his boxor (oh, and stay away from my big smelly atrox feet)