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    Complete crat pets Hitpoint and Nano list

    Ityn and I have made a list of all crat pets, their level, ql, hitpoints and nano. The ql is taken from the nanocrystals, not the shells, because the ql of a shell is the same as the level of the bot.

    Cz, sticky please?

    Code:
    NAME                                 Level    QL      HP   NANO
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Basic Worker-Droid                       2     1      56     70
    Limited Worker-Driod                     3     1      56     70
    Faithful Worker-Droid                    6     4      92    115
    Advanced Worker                          8     7      92    115
    Supervisor-Grade Worker-Droid           10     7      92    115
    Executive-Grade Worker-Droid            12    10     164    205
    Director-Grade Worker-Droid             14    14     262    327
                                                       
    Basic Helper-Droid                      16    14     341    426
    Limited Helper-Bot                      18    17     394    493
    Faithful Helper-Droid                   20    17     447    559
    Advanced Helper                         22    20     553    691
    Supervisor-Grade Helper-Droid           24    20     553    691
    Executive-Grade Helper-Droid            26    24     629    768
    Director-Grade Helper-Droid             28    27     728    855
                                                       
    Basic Attendant-Droid                   30    27     826    942
    Limited Attendant-Droid                 33    30     974   1073
    Faithful Attendant-Droid                36    33    1122   1204
    Advanced Attendant-Droid                39    37    1271   1334
    Supervisor-Grade Attendant-Droid        42    37    1419   1465
    Executive-Grade Attendant-Droid         45    40    1567   1596
    Director-Grade Attendant-Droid          48    43    1715   1726
                                                       
    Basic Assistant-Droid                   51    47    1881   1869
    Limited Assistant-Droid                 54    50    2035   2035
    Faithful Assistant-Droid                57    53    2286   2202
    Advanced Assistant-Droid                60    57    2489   2368
    Supervisor-Grade Assistant-Droid        63    60    2691   2534
    Executive-Grade Assistant-Droid         66    63    2894   2701
    Director-Grade Assistant-Droid          69    66    3096   2867
                                                       
    Basic Aide-Droid                        72    70    3299   3033
    Limited Aide-Droid                      75    73    3502   3200
    Faithful Aide-Droid                     78    76    3704   3366
    Advanced Aide-Droid                     81    80    3907   3532
    Supervisor-Grade Aide-Droid             84    83    4109   3699
    Executive-Grade Aide-Droid              87    86    4312   3865
    Director-Grade Aide-Droid               91    90    4609   4098
                                                       
    Basic Secretary-Droid                   95    96    4989   4365
    Limited Secretary-Droid                 99    99    5369   4632
    Faithful Secretary-Droid               103   106    5748   4899
    Advanced Secretary-Droid               107   109    6128   5166
    Supervisor-Grade Secretary-Droid       111   113    6507   5433
    Executive-Grade Secretary-Droid        115   119    6887   5700
    Director-Grade Secretary-Droid         119   123    7267   5967
                                                       
    Basic Administrator                    123   129    7646   6234
    Limited Administrator-Droid            127   132    8026   6501
    Faithful Administrator-Droid           131   132    8430   6780
    Advanced Administrator-Droid           135   136    8907   7094
    Supervisor-Grade Administrator-Droid   139   136    9384   7409
    Executive-Grade Administrator-Droid    143   139    9861   7723
    Director-Grade Administrator-Droid     147   142   10338   8038
                                                       
    Basic Minion                           151   142   10815   8352
    Limited Minion                         155   146   11292   8666
    Faithful Minion                        159   146   12246   9295
    Advanced Minion                        163   149   13200   9924
    Supervisor-Grade Minion                167   152   13677  10238
    Executive-Grade Minion                 171   152   13677  10238
    Director-Grade Minion                  175   156   13677  10238
                                                         
    Basic Bodyguard                        179   159   14274  10631
    Limited Bodyguard                      183   162   14274  10631
    Faithful Bodyguard                     187   162   14751  10946
    Advanced Bodyguard                     191   165   15585  11496
    Supervisor-Grade Bodyguard             194   165   15943  11732
    Executive-Grade Bodyguard              197   169   21297  11991
    Director-Grade Bodyguard               200   169   29148  12261
                                                      
    Corporate Guardian                     205   205   35288      ?
    CEO Guardian                           215   215   41592      ?
                                                      
    Carlo Pinnetti                         220   220   55687      ?
    EDIT Malaxia : Fixed levels and added new bots & carlo.
    Last edited by Malaxia; Nov 30th, 2007 at 00:57:29. Reason: updated
    Katelin "Elasii" McCovery

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    Smile this is great

    Let me try and be the first one to say thanks for taking the time to get the information and post it to the boards :-)

    Now for the next question:
    It seems that our pets have a little less than 3/4 the HP of the engie pets and a little more than the MP pets level for level. What we do not seem to know (ok, what I do not know) is the other important stats for our pets like: AC, attack rating, etc. Does anyone have any ideas? For example: Faithful Worker-Droid, Advanced Worker, and Supervisor-Grade Worker-Droid all have the same stats. So, what's different between them?

    In addition, how do our pets stack up vs. the engie and MP pets? I was especially curious because at higher levels, they get some really nice (i.e., we don't get anything) pet buffs and it seems on face value that our other skills are meant to offset a weaker pet. I do not want to turn this into”my pet is better than yours" silliness, just curious.

    RedTapeRus

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    engy's don't get any pet buffs, only trimmers which u guys can use as well (we got a new nano last patch but can't count that in since it hasn't been found)

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    don't they get shield nano's?

    I thought Engie's get shield nano's that can be used on their pets?

    I guess the way I look at things is:

    Crat: ok pet, good nukes to help. Calms and possibly charms mean crat controls when and where to fight.

    MP: better pet?, may be able to handle 1 add, good nukes, some pet buffs to make pet better

    Engies: best pet, pet better be able to handle adds, more ways to make pet better.

    I was just wondering if all of the above was true. For example, is the MP pet better than a crat pet without the MP buffs? Are the trimmers about the equal of the MP pet buffs?

    And while I'm busy asking all these silly questions, can MP pet buffs be used on our pets too?

    thanks,

    RedTapeRus

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    hehe oki. Well me and a MP in my guild actually did a test on slayer vs deamon and the result was the slayer wins if the deamon don't have heal pet. If the deamon have heal pet it's a even fight. The pets were fully buffed btw. The problem with our buffs is 1) ac shields don't make much diffrence since bot takes min dmg from mobs anyway 2) shields and reflect breaks calms and our blind aura which makes it useless in both team and solo. Gonna try slayer vs ninja tomorrow I think

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    Red face

    Originally posted by Ylisar
    Gonna try slayer vs ninja tomorrow I think
    Don't bother. The slayer is gonna splatter ninja all over.
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    Nice list!

    One thing i would like to have added, i know this isnt gonna work for players, is what attackrating and defense each pet has.

    That would be really nice information and it can in no way be exploited or abused. The HP really doesnt matter if defense is low and they need a fair attackrating.

    I have seen this list somewhere but it was based on playermade testing, it showeed that the highest pets had:

    MP demon: Approx 650
    Crat ninja: Approx 620
    Engi slayer: Approx 750

    Im not sure on these figures i might be way off, but they sound like they are in the vicinity of the correct numbers and that is way to low. At least compared to players and mobs evades and attackrating.

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    krneki made a similar thread on the engy forum a while ago, check it for comparison if your interested. theres also an extensive thread about all trimmers and their effects (also by krneki).

    healsrus:

    crat: pretty good pet, ok nukes, massive crowd control, some minor pet buffs

    mp: best offense capabilities due to massive pet buffs (aenima/instill), heal pet, good nukes, broken mezz pet

    engy: pet with most hp by far, ac and reflect shields

    best bot damage trimmer adds like 80 dmage for 5 mins, best aenima adds 200sumthing for 40 secs and massive init buff ( dont know the exact numbers here, go check it )

    pets in general cant handle adds, in fact, they usually cant even handle one target. ask your fellow engineer how often he gets agroed just entering LOS of the mob, sometimes not even that

    the basic difference is the -intended- function of the pets,

    crat: one of severeal damage sources, soak up the hits till the enemy is charmed/calmed

    mp: damage !

    engy: tank

    due to the messed up agro system/AMS of the pets, the tanking usually doesnt work (thats why most engies cry so much, only thing they'r supposed to do in combat is broken..).

    btw, i'v seen a demon beat a slayer with heal pet of course.
    would be interesting how a ninja works out.

    edit: a few notes: only the pet owner can buff a pet. there are a lot of different trimmers for different purposes, most arent worth the ip though. aenima/instill have a lot better effects than the trimmers, but a short duration.
    Last edited by Beautyfarm; Nov 6th, 2002 at 17:59:13.

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    So, how did the Ninja do?

    Just a bump to see if someone will do the Ninja vs. slayer and ninja vs. demon tests

    RedTapeRus

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    Send Cz a private message, hopefully it will make it sticky.
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    Is that data still accurate?
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  12. #12
    Originally posted by tallistro

    edit: a few notes: only the pet owner can buff a pet. there are a lot of different trimmers for different purposes, most arent worth the ip though. aenima/instill have a lot better effects than the trimmers, but a short duration.
    actually we can have engi's Trim our pets as well. and vise versa...but better let engi;s hook us up.
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    Much testing has been done, us mps have nothing better to do then mochie people test bots soo heres link to some of testing done but still needs more testing though.
    Engiebots/ninjas can Trimed buffed, Engies also get auras that realy help with agroes or pissing of calmers crats
    where as mp pet is buffed with stuff only and evoced every 24 seconds if have time nano.


    this is one of test done
    http://forums.anarchy-online.com/sho...ighlight=Ninja
    Can't find the intesinve one for some odd reason

    Results where Engie bot won
    Crat Nija Was on off
    It was wining some fights loosing others but wasnt perfect calc becuase of the auras cast bye the Crat effect all pets in area therefore give the mp pet more bonus due to lower ar's ( For all u that don't realy know Fully buffed crat pet with auras AND getting heals from the crat itself is better then demon)
    But now Totaly taken to new realm for mps with skele pets that do jsut awsome damage can tank for jack add something into teams that cant just be mesured with testing agiast each other does the 200 bot kill a 5 k hp skele yes But does that skele add do more damage to the mob posible.. Mp is evolving into a differnt sort of class now not as much as pet hunt command used to be its more of omg don't let uber dam dealing pet die still good dam profesions outdamge pet but with nukes other things mp is now more intersting differnt team addition because if have doc pet can get full healing and does good damage.... Why havn't i Ever teamed a crat cept for like twice in ohh say last 2 years do u all solo or something Rambes off into the unknown

    Don't compare try be differnt which what crats need CRAT stuff i never see crat stuff
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    Is this an accurate list of the HP/Nano for every pet?
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    At the time of posting it was. I don't know if the pet hps were changed any since 15.0 for Shadowlands though.
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    Results where Engie bot won
    Crat Nija Was on off
    It was wining some fights loosing others
    LOL - No, it wasn't.
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    Javen 115 Engie, Testlive
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    Crat vs. Engin

    First time playing and I was trying to make a pet class... I noticed that Engin starts out strong with pet hp, but Crat has 10k more hp at 169... Engin doesn't get that much until 198... and finally beats Crat at 199 and 200... my question...

    Does a Crat have higher level pets than 169 or is that where they stop...?

    -Raz

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    The QL169 Nano is the Crat's QL200 Ninja, whereas the QL189? Nano is the Engy's QL200 Slayer. However, Engy pets are permanent, so you can Mochie/Wrangle to cast the bot and still keep it when buffs expire. My Engy had a QL 200 Slayer controlled with Composite Infuses at level 100. I don't know many, if any, crats that can maintain a QL200 Ninja for 4 hours at a time at level 100, so engy pets do indeed put a hurtin on Crat bots.

    At the same time tho, if you charm a mob or two and THEN let the pets duel, I'm bettin the Engy bot goes dowin in a blaze of glory, cause it's pretty hard to win 3 on 1.

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    Question

    so wheres the 205?
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    Nikaidaro 205 NT - Opi *RETIRED* Wearing
    Caldaro 201 Crat - ummm
    Troxdaro 155 Enf - Trox
    Im sooo outta here, bye all!

  20. #20
    dead stickyyyyy, thought the new bot was interesting to compare with old ones but guess not
    _________.-
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    Beldaro 200 NT - Trox *RETIRED* Wearing
    Nikaidaro 205 NT - Opi *RETIRED* Wearing
    Caldaro 201 Crat - ummm
    Troxdaro 155 Enf - Trox
    Im sooo outta here, bye all!

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