ALOT of changes are comming up, and no more ipr.

**_______________NoWay** · Oct 30th, 2002, 22:00:42

FC is nerfing scopes, by doing this certain weapons are not working the way they used to be. That means we have to reset the skills and choose something else. What happens when you're suppose to have the "perfect" setup and they nerf you some way or another, and you have no IPR left?! That can easily happen to a level 200 that made a few bad choices in IPR's in the pass, finnaly got a good setup but has like 1-2 ipr left.. He can't change things around anymore, he dossent have enought iprs... grr

With all those upcomming changes comming up, I think FC should give us another FULL IPR for a month so we can rethink our char the way things will be now.

I for myself went from Snakemaster to full MA. Used a few of my ipr, but now that they're nerfing my scope and my MA (bu bye FoK if you're not MA wish means MA is really not that appealing anymore). I'm in a situation where ill wait till the very last min to make all my changes, and I have no idea if ill have enought ipr to do it. Wish pisses me off cause my setup was perfect untill they nerfed me.

Anyway bump this please, they need to do something about this. Its not our fault things change all around all the time.

**Whiteboog** · Oct 30th, 2002, 22:24:06

i assumse your doctor uses a shotgun

this doesnt effect me cause i got all my ipr and dont need em atm anyway but i still think its a good idea. Especially for all those shotgun classes.

**_______________NoWay** · Oct 30th, 2002, 23:02:55

No I'm fully MA right now, I used a few IPR to take off my shotgun..

I was planning on doing a River6/MA combo for pvp. Now I dont know if its a good idea with all those nerfs comming up.

So I might need to reset my River6 and MA to go I dont know where yet... Thats ALOT of ipr's skills, and I dont even know if I have enought to do it. You can make sure ill do like 156086 petitions to get more iprs if I need more to get it the way I want. I'm already getting nerf in the scope department, something that was NOT suppose to get changed(yes I worked HARD to get it and now I have to rethink what gun would be good to use withought my 14% scope). If I have to spend iprs to reset the skills I wont happy thats for sure. If they wouldn't of nerfed scopes I wouldn't ask for more IPRS.

**____________Cyblade7** · Oct 31st, 2002, 00:52:41

The patch they took away UVC from the rest of the populace is the patch you should have given up the Rivers 6.

Its crit or s*** with that gun, more often than that it hits for crap.

**Turin** · Oct 31st, 2002, 13:35:38

Do you really think they care? really? IF you do... well. It is halloween, trick is on you.

**Achmed20** · Oct 31st, 2002, 14:23:13

just learn how to play AO :P

i dont have problems with any of those patches.

**______________Yazule** · Oct 31st, 2002, 14:45:52

Originally posted by Whiteboog
i assumse your doctor uses a shotgun
this doesnt effect me cause i got all my ipr and dont need em atm anyway but i still think its a good idea. Especially for all those shotgun classes.

there are viable shotties even if they nerf llts (vek and HD come to mind).

anyone using a shotty and calling for IP is not the brightest. Just because the shotgun you choose atm to use wont be as effective does not mean that the weapon style as a whole is junk.

**_______________NoWay** · Oct 31st, 2002, 20:43:41

Nah I choose a gun I wanna use then put skills in it. I dont choose a skill then choose a gun. If they nerf my scope/gun setup. I dont wanna choose something with ip placement I have. I wanna have the same option I had before everything got nerfed in the first place.

Achmed20 you probably dont have a problem with all the last patch FC came up with cause you're a fixer and all you guys got recently are good patch's. Wait till they decide to cut down on your grid armor or something like that. And you're probably not using a scope you had to work for also. Like most people on those boards you're thinking about yourself first and if the nerf dossent affect you, you simply don't care.

I'm against nerf's, I know how much it pisses off people when they nerf you. It was there job to figure it out in the first place. And if a class is to powerful they should just fix the other classes that are not powerful enought instead of nerfing the guys that made the right choice and are really happy with what they got.

**Nullifax** · Oct 31st, 2002, 21:37:14

Your mistake in the first place was making a choice based on power and combat effectiveness instead of whether or not your character actually would use it. Live with it, munchkins.

**gwend** · Oct 31st, 2002, 23:19:17

Originally posted by PipBoy
Your mistake in the first place was making a choice based on power and combat effectiveness instead of whether or not your character actually would use it. Live with it, munchkins.

yes his mistake for using a good pvp / pvm setup and fc nerfing him woot what an idiot i could of seen this 6 months ago when he made his doc

**Nullifax** · Nov 1st, 2002, 00:27:13

Originally posted by gwend

yes his mistake for using a good pvp / pvm setup and fc nerfing him woot what an idiot i could of seen this 6 months ago when he made his doc

You missed my point entirely, munchkin. My point was that his decision should never have been based on numbers anyway. His decision to use a weapon should have been based on what he felt fit in with his character. How does game mechanics have ANYTHING to do with the personality of a character?

"good PvP/PvM" is totally irrelevant when it comes to a "role playing game" in the truest sense. In fact, "good PvM" to an RPer means they kill evil mobs and NPCs. "good PvP" means they kill other players that are evil.

When you play a game just to crunch numbers, you DESERVE to get burned.

**________________Enri** · Nov 1st, 2002, 01:06:05

Originally posted by PipBoy
Your mistake in the first place was making a choice based on power and combat effectiveness instead of whether or not your character actually would use it. Live with it, munchkins.

Har! Right on brotha. First time I've heard someone use the word "munchkin" too (I am familiar with it)

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**engelstein** · Nov 1st, 2002, 02:50:10

MMORPGs are all about numbers. There is no RP in the game engine. So when you rip on someone for making a decision based on numbers, who looks like an idiot?

**Painslaver** · Nov 1st, 2002, 04:07:50

This thread has gone to ****... Sucks to be you...

**gwend** · Nov 1st, 2002, 05:13:31

id say the number of people that actually rp in this game is very small ive yet to meet a true role playing character since i started playing which was a couple weeks after release and if you just start sticking ip into skills without doing some "number crunching" youre bound to be screwed over in the end

**Nullifax** · Nov 1st, 2002, 05:47:11

Originally posted by gwend
id say the number of people that actually rp in this game is very small ive yet to meet a true role playing character since i started playing which was a couple weeks after release and if you just start sticking ip into skills without doing some "number crunching" youre bound to be screwed over in the end

Your concept of "screwed over" is still based on power and the ability to beat on stuff. If you truly roleplay, you won't care one way or the other. As for this MMORPG being about number crunching, that's all the players' fault. No offense, but aparently yourself included. Hell, I admit I've been guilty of it quite a bit too. But as I said in another thread, I've come upon a very sudden realization. Honestly it has made AO a lot better for me, though unfortauntely, the lack of true roleplayers means the only char I can RP viably is quite a loner. It works well though. I made a nanomage adventurer who likes to wield fast shooting pistols and hang out in the desert mumbling about how much Rubikan Society is filled with crazy folks shouting about numbers all the time.

**gwend** · Nov 1st, 2002, 18:40:44

Originally posted by PipBoy

Your concept of "screwed over" is still based on power and the ability to beat on stuff. If you truly roleplay, you won't care one way or the other. As for this MMORPG being about number crunching, that's all the players' fault. No offense, but aparently yourself included. Hell, I admit I've been guilty of it quite a bit too. But as I said in another thread, I've come upon a very sudden realization. Honestly it has made AO a lot better for me, though unfortauntely, the lack of true roleplayers means the only char I can RP viably is quite a loner. It works well though. I made a nanomage adventurer who likes to wield fast shooting pistols and hang out in the desert mumbling about how much Rubikan Society is filled with crazy folks shouting about numbers all the time.

time to conform bust out your calculator

**hhli-china** · Nov 1st, 2002, 20:55:04

so you think i should use a ql1 weapon because it looks good, rather than something that causes damage?

I choose a weapon based on my ability to cover it in IPs, and it's ability to damage things. If funcom changes the ground floor leaving me ineffective, I need to change. It has nothing to do with RP, it has to do with damage.

I could be wrong, but putting a nice dress on and dancing for tarasque didn't kill it.

munchkin.

**engelstein** · Nov 1st, 2002, 21:30:18

Originally posted by TheSkeezix
I could be wrong, but putting a nice dress on and dancing for tarasque didn't kill it.

Maybe you gotta get a whole lot of Atrox wearing metal bikinis and the Tarasque will claw its eyes out, leaving it unable to hit anything.

**_____________Brandon** · Nov 1st, 2002, 21:51:55

Maybe like Slag keeps on saying it should be a cred sink. Maybe even like $2 RL cashola for full IPR on all characters on account or something wacky like that.

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