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  1. #1

    "Balance"

    +Can cast RI under ams.
    +Small heal.
    +100 SMG


    -Minus 30 burst, minus 20 dmg dmg and minus 20 RE while using combined art nano compared to the db nanos.

    Not sure about the AAO situation.

    Prolly missed a lot.

    Who feels better balanced now and who doesn't?

  2. #2
    - buff Assault solja
    - buff hp setup
    - change ams mechanics(other profs hit 3k damage(AimS/Fa) when ams enabled)
    - change Fa mechanics for Assault, or give FA/AS/Burst weap.
    - give new nano(like stim for marine in StarCraft ) hit self for + ar +dd +init and more +
    - change perks and give new, especially fast dd for Assault.
    - more Armor(per lvl) or 1(2)perk + le prock(more heal and armor)
    - change agro nano line (enf has 50k taunt. solja 15k)
    - change Complete Healing Blocker nano line ( \\Resist 120%\\Nano Resist 140%\\Nano Resist 95%) def chek max 60%
    - change HP Buff nano line, delete Bio Metamor req and stuck with enf buff
    - change le nt nuke Pierce Reflect only for radiation.
    - change rrfe debuff from eng and tader

    - new Assault weap

    example

    with 500-600 dd req HeaveWeap\\Assaullt\\Fa\\Burst\\Fs. 4/4
    req +smg . 2/2
    req +RangEner\\Fs. 3/3


    if u need smg start Fixer is the best
    smg solja must be suck
    Last edited by quantum; Apr 22nd, 2015 at 15:44:06.

  3. #3
    Looks like the profs with quiet/absent professionals got the least love, deflect alone borks one of our two tricks harder than any other prof... Sols were barely holding on before this.

  4. #4
    Did they add RE on ado brain? If so no loss on RE.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by quantum View Post
    - change Complete Healing Blocker nano line ( \\Resist 120%\\Nano Resist 140%\\Nano Resist 95%) def chek max 60%
    wut

  6. #6
    RI does NOT actually block ch/ich now, just removes hots and stuff. Good to know before going apecrap about it. https://aoitems.com/item/267624/
    Don't you just hate this kind of ppl
    http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/w...rouscranus.htm

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Phatkeep View Post
    +Can cast RI under ams. (Can cast any nano under ams)
    +Small heal. (2 different heals that can be used situationally)
    +100 SMG (More AR for SMG soldiers)


    -Minus 30 burst, minus 20 dmg dmg and minus 20 RE while using combined art nano compared to the db nanos.
    (Lost the burst if SMG, Fixer damage buff stacks now, I know its not self, but it is something, New Ado brain gives 100 RE, +75 then the old one.)

    Not sure about the AAO situation.
    (not bad)

    Prolly missed a lot.

    Who feels better balanced now and who doesn't?
    (soldiers still have a lot of work)
    All in all, Assault Rifle Nanomage soldier looks like the best setup for pvp, great defense, good AR
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  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Phatkeep View Post
    Did they add RE on ado brain? If so no loss on RE.
    yes.
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  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Nermal View Post
    Looks like the profs with quiet/absent professionals got the least love, deflect alone borks one of our two tricks harder than any other prof... Sols were barely holding on before this.
    I've been here the whole time and openly voiced my opinion on the deflect problem since Genele was in charge.
    Also solds got a lot of stuff on our wishlist.

    I will be the first to say that we didn't exactly get everything, but we did get something. In my opinion soldiers are going in the right direction and could be moving forward in the long run. Have faith.
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  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by nanoforcer View Post
    RI does NOT actually block ch/ich now, just removes hots and stuff. Good to know before going apecrap about it. https://aoitems.com/item/267624/
    https://aoitems.com/item/204305/
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  11. #11
    I can't test it ingame now but check the stacking order, ch/ich stacks higher so it should in theory "overwrite" OFITG and therefore work.

    EDIT:
    i got to test it on test and OFITG really does work to block CH/ICH as far as i could see, i think the doc only tested VH but i'm guessing it also block ICH since it's in the same line.
    Not sure it it SHOULD work, poke Michi about it perhaps.

    Gah, oh well now i'll need to get it for live i guess
    Also, it's really annoing when ppl heal XAN so use it on him and you'll avoid those moments
    Last edited by nanoforcer; Apr 26th, 2015 at 09:07:35.
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  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by nanoforcer View Post
    I can't test it ingame now but check the stacking order, ch/ich stacks higher so it should in theory "overwrite" OFITG and therefore work.

    EDIT:
    i got to test it on test and OFITG really does work to block CH/ICH as far as i could see, i think the doc only tested VH but i'm guessing it also block ICH since it's in the same line.
    Not sure it it SHOULD work, poke Michi about it perhaps.

    Gah, oh well now i'll need to get it for live i guess
    Also, it's really annoing when ppl heal XAN so use it on him and you'll avoid those moments
    One foot in the Grave overrides Remedy Inhibitor because of stacking order. However last time I checked RI would block ICH/CH.


    Executing Nano Program: Remedy Inhibitor.
    Nano program executed successfully.
    Executing Nano Program: One Foot in the Grave.
    Nanoprogram Remedy Inhibitor terminated...
    Nano program executed successfully.
    NCU error: Better nano program already running.
    Unable to execute nano program. You can't execute this nano on the target.
    Last edited by Tyfowler; Apr 27th, 2015 at 04:44:10.
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  13. #13
    Quick question.
    18.7 patch note: Soldier Improved Automatic Targeting is now a Composite heavy artillery buff that increases the target's Assault Rifle, Rifle, Grenade, SMG, Heavy Weapons and Ranged Energy Weapon skills by 100.

    Does it stack with Improved Total Focus? or other soldier endgame nanos?

  14. #14
    It stacks with iTF, but not with Art of War & Improved Ranged Energy Weapon Mastery.
    It's essentially a nerf for Assault Rifle soldiers, and a buff for SMG soliders (while still nerfing their RE by 20).

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  15. #15
    It looks like they removed the ch/ich part of RI (it only removes hots now) so if you want to stop that you'll now have to use OFITG, witch i also recommend using in 12m on xan so docs / adv don't heal him
    Don't you just hate this kind of ppl
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  16. #16
    buff Assault solja or die

  17. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Wakizaka View Post
    It stacks with iTF, but not with Art of War & Improved Ranged Energy Weapon Mastery.
    It's essentially a nerf for Assault Rifle soldiers, and a buff for SMG soliders (while still nerfing their RE by 20).
    Wakizaka,
    As an AR soldier, guess I will stick with Art of War and Improved Ranged Energy Weapon Mastery...
    Art of War modifier=
    Assault Rif 150
    Burst 30
    Add. Proj. Dam. 20

    Improved Ranged Energy Weapon Mastery modifier=
    Modify Ranged Ener 120

    versus

    Composite Heavy Artillery
    Target Modify Assault Rif 100
    Target Modify Rifle 100
    Target Modify Grenade 100
    Target Modify Heavy Weapons 100
    Target Modify Ranged Ener 100
    Target Modify MG / SMG 100
    Last edited by Transform; May 2nd, 2015 at 03:12:49.

  18. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Transform View Post
    Wakizaka,
    As an AR soldier, guess I will stick with Art of War and Improved Ranged Energy Weapon Mastery...
    Art of War modifier=
    Assault Rif 150
    Burst 30
    Add. Proj. Dam. 20

    Improved Ranged Energy Weapon Mastery modifier=
    Modify Ranged Ener 120

    versus

    Composite Heavy Artillery
    Target Modify Assault Rif 100
    Target Modify Rifle 100
    Target Modify Grenade 100
    Target Modify Heavy Weapons 100
    Target Modify Ranged Ener 100
    Target Modify MG / SMG 100

    yeah it was purely just some love for the smg guys out there. You are definitely better off with your original buffs.
    Once again I would like to point out that your adonis brain gives +75 more RE then it use to.
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  19. #19
    To answer some changes :
    - RI was overlapping OFTIG and both nano exisiting was pointless. The higher resist of OFTIG is a problem however, this will be reported.
    - 30 AR from FAT was moved to automatic targeting so there is no loss of attack rating, composite heavy is not aimed for AR solds.
    - We got more RE thanks to the Ado brain, +55 after the deduction of compo.
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  20. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Boltgun View Post
    To answer some changes :
    - 30 AR from FAT was moved to automatic targeting so there is no loss of attack rating, composite heavy is not aimed for AR solds.\
    Wrong. IAT stacked with EotP unlike FAT. It's a loss of 30 AAO.

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