Trader's God Mode 1-160

[Gridpain]

With good timing, you can have ONE try to land NSD.

Either it gets countered, and MP is dead
Either it lands... and if it lands, there's 2 possibility:
1 : trader didnt do anything while you were casting ... he's NSD, and MP is not rooted/debuff => trader kites the pets => trader lives
2: trader saw you cast NSD, and, if not stupid, will cast AoE root at the same time => trader lives

Clearly, MP is not a counter to traders...

[Rurounin]

Traders shouldn't exist before level 100, if you roll a trader it should start at level 100.

But yeah, the balance documents will fix this, but we have no real ETA, as far as we know it could still be years away.

Here's a good way to fix things meanwhile:
Level lock nanites (151? as suggested before).
Level lock -aao/-aad drains (100 for first and 151 for second?).
Lower target duration to 30s on drains (still long enough).

[Shareida]

yeah because if i click 200000 times NSD my mp is going to cast faster the 9 secs attack time, also Trader nanos have 11more range. Lazy pls u fail tryng to troll, why u lose your time making such usseles reply's? Its obvious that nobody can NSD a trader if this is not AFK.

/facepalm

Here. that helps

Here's a good way to fix things meanwhile:
Level lock nanites (151? as suggested before).
Level lock -aao/-aad drains (100 for first and 151 for second?).
Lower target duration to 30s on drains (still long enough).

While I am not disagreeing on the proposed changes, other classes would need a temporary overhaul too. Like CH being castable by a level 100 doc/agent. UBT lasting too long, Fixers having access to all Ranged specials et cetera.

[Gridpain]

tbh,the drains like in rebalance could be shipped to test live now, it would be better than level locking stuff.

[Gridpain]

/facepalm

Here. that helps

With good timing, you can have ONE try to land NSD.

Either it gets countered, and MP is dead
Either it lands... and if it lands, there's 2 possibility:
1 : trader didnt do anything while you were casting ... he's NSD, and MP is not rooted/debuff => trader kites the pets => trader lives
2: trader saw you cast NSD, and, if not stupid, will cast AoE root at the same time => trader lives

Clearly, MP is not a counter to traders...

No, it doesnt help.

[Coolerd]

/facepalm

Here. that helps




While I am not disagreeing on the proposed changes, other classes would need a temporary overhaul too. Like CH being castable by a level 100 doc/agent. UBT lasting too long, et cetera.

Yes that help's to traders ofc, the ones who can get high CL at lower lvl's.

[Gridpain]

Yes that help's to traders ofc, the ones who can get high CL at lower lvl's.

Now that's just not relevent, as a QL 200 regular range increaser will work too...

[Coolerd]

At lower Lvl's u will never have better range increaser than a trader, its pointless try to outrange traders with longuer Base skill range+ easy CL twnking. You will never match trader range.

[Shareida]

Yes that help's to traders ofc, the ones who can get high CL at lower lvl's.

Did you know that even missing with your weapons can make you proc NSD?

Edit. The normal NSD has 14m range. a ql 200 range increaser adds 150%. You already have capped range.

[Gridpain]

You cant outrange trader, but nor can he outrange you if you care to take adapted buffs / equip...

but like I said sooner in this thread, even if you manage to cast 1 NSD, it wont probably help you.

[Coolerd]

yeah lvl 1-150 weapons can proc nsd, what weapons? melee shield?

[Shareida]

yeah lvl 1-150 weapons can proc nsd, what weapons? melee shield?

Not my fault, you use a shield instead of a gun with AS.

[Gridpain]

Did you know that even missing with your weapons can make you proc NSD?

Well, that helps a ton on 99% of MP that use shield + parry stick

Btw, at what level is the first NSD proc ?
/edit, found it ... it's a proc from research 10 ... very relevant for the subject...

[Lazy]

so roll a higher level trader.

[Gridpain]

so roll a higher level trader.

or a higher level NR agent, or NR enfo ... or NR sold ... or, after level 75, non-NR agent ... and go mimic trader !!

[Coolerd]

rolf yeah NR sold NR agent or NR anything, most fun pvp ever, 3 buttons to smash just because one class is OP, if that is the solution and people is ok with it, we have a real problem.

[Lazy]

or a higher level NR agent, or NR enfo ... or NR sold ... or, after level 75, non-NR agent ... and go mimic trader !!

i didnt like mimic tarder on my asian. enfo so much more fun ^^

rolf yeah NR sold NR agent or NR anything, most fun pvp ever, 3 buttons to smash just because one class is OP

that's called "metagame" if you know what everyone does and ylou know what hardcounters it, you would logically build a hardcounter and kill everyone, right? however whatever it is you made that hardcounters whatever everyone does probably also has a hardcounter, so if someone wanted to kill you they'd roll that, right?

[Coolerd]

Metagame? i say its necessity, people dont want roll the OP easy win toon and the only way to face it is gimp your toon to usseles status and spam 2 buttons. This is totaly wrong. Trader's are the most OP class ever seen in MMORPG's. Speaking on lower lvls ofc.

People want play their toons not be drained to leet status and watch how someone pwn u without a chance.

[Lazy]

People want play their toons not be drained to leet status and watch how someone pwn u without a chance.

so roll a higher level trader!

[Coolerd]

i dont want play a trader, this is not Trader's Online its Anarchy Online.