Ma Suit suggestion

[Mesa]

After I started playing my MA again I became kind of unhappy about how we are getting splatted from many other classes.. yeah we can go for more def in our setup, but IMO we really need our AR to be able to hit/perk the non evade classes..
I dont have an idea when rebalance will be patched, but I guess this will take at least another year of waiting.. so I wanna suggest some simple item that could be a quite helpful in PVP.

The idea is to have a MA Suit, that can be casted (meditated) comparable to the Shadow Webspinner backarmor for fixers..
This suit could also have different versions with different skillpower and level reqs/ nanoskill reqs..

The level 220 version doesnt need to be as powerful as the SWS armor, but maybe have about 300 evades(or aad, or maybe splitted), 100 MA skill (or aao..), 200 NR some AC and thats pretty much it..

what do you think ?

Greetz

[Tsuniko]

use flower to debuff if you can't perk non-evade classes.

Not sure, but I think it's just you. MA's can perk all non-evade classes as far as i know.

[Mesa]

I wasnt saying I cant perk them in my setup, I was saying I wont be able to perk them if I would try to focus my setup on evades/defense to be less squishy..

[Tsuniko]

swap items in fight then

[Obtena]

Swap is always an option, but I would like to hope that it doesn't become a solution to the things being described by the OP here. Swapping is fine when it comes to considering what kind of PVP you are doing, like what to wear for towers vs. a duel or one or two items for gaining access to a special attack. It is NOT reasonable to swap where the scenario is changing faster than you can swap your gear, like fighting random professions in BS.

While the idea of spawning your own items is really cool, I don't find itemspawning attractive for MA's. Now, what DOES work for me is 'spawning' MA attacks and effects. While this might simply sound like a nuke or CC effect, the difference is that the lockout isn't a nano recharge, it's a skill lock, just like other MA attacks. it would work similar to how Wrath does for Keepers. If you aren't familiar, you cast wrath and it gives you access to the Wrath special attack that locks out your 2HE skill.

It's a bit late now but FC could have done the same with the MA attacks. Instead of killing the inventory with all of the MA attack items, they would just be uploaded nanos you cast for whatever situation you wnat them and fill your attack bars with the appropriate actions from the action menu ot use them.

[McKnuckleSamwich]

use flower to debuff if you can't perk non-evade classes.

Not sure, but I think it's just you. MA's can perk all non-evade classes as far as i know.

not true, in fact.

Agents aren't perkable in evade setup, some enfs aren't perkable in evade setup, some soldiers aren't perkable in evade setup, traders as well.

Evade setup on MA is, unfortunately, required for any remote chance of survival, and, completely ineffective for combat.

Go figure.

Also, When I'm talking about evade setup, I'm talking about full alpha's, CC except pants, notucomm, SoS, green hud.. roughly 2900-3k AR.

Also, you can't use flower, since it checks AMS vs duck, so, if you can't hit someone, it's highly unlikely flower will work either. The only prof flower really works on is keeper.

MA's need a lot of help. Currently I only use mine for PVM.

PVP is a joke unless you live on the same continent as the servers, otherwise you got no hope. Any prof that requires a swap for PVP is broken. Period. MA requires 2 swaps, which is 2 more than any prof should ever need, and 1 more than any other prof uses, which means MA's are more broke than any other prof right now.

[Somniforum]

what do you think ?

Greetz

Can I get 20-ish piercing on it, please? That would be a great help against a certain evil little doc...

[Tsuniko]

When I say swap, I'm not talking about sofc or sapphistic, I'm talking about changing HUDs and amour mid fight to get more AR, aad etc.

That's what separates the average pvpers (and the godmode profs like ranged advs) with the best.

[Obtena]

When I say swap, I'm not talking about sofc or sapphistic, I'm talking about changing HUDs and amour mid fight to get more AR, aad etc.

That's what separates the average pvpers (and the godmode profs like ranged advs) with the best.

I got that point and that's simply a ridiculous approach to PVP for anything BUT a duel. Separates average from the best? I don't care how good you are, swapping the amount of gear needed to address perking a profession midfight isn't a realistic solution to not having the AR to perk people. Swapping armor isn't realistic either for many professions, especially for twinks. The whole swapping thing is a cop out to avoid looking at the real problem.

[bics]

^^ this

[Tsuniko]

yes it would be nice for FC to balance professions in terms of their general gear setup, but i'm afraid that's not happening anytime soon.

And your point about swapping items being hard in open pvp like BS or towers is moot, considering you will have OSBs to cover your weaknesses in those situations.

[Obtena]

Then you don't need to swap in those situations and what I said still stands ... only needed for duels.

[Tsuniko]

and isn't that the problem the OP is most concerned about?

[Obtena]

My understanding is that the OP doesn't like going splat and missing AR for perking and is proposing MA back items. I can't say I support that idea but I do know it's not simply addressed as telling him to swap gear like an AO PVP pro.

[Tsuniko]

tbh it just sounds like some guy who's just come back to the game, outdated gear and complaining he can't kill endgame geared toons in BS.

[Somniforum]

tbh it just sounds like some guy who's just come back to the game, outdated gear and complaining he can't kill endgame geared toons in BS.

You might want to add your other pvp-toons to your sig. Even if it's just the char names, it would help to take your input on the second most demanding profession in AO's pvp seriously.
As long as only the 2 most simple (I did not say "easy", since this would imply "simple + successful" and thefore only applies to the soldier, in your case) professions are listed there, it's very hard to take your statements at face value.
This came off a lot more "personal attack"-ish than intended and I do sincerely apologize about that.

[Tsuniko]

so the only toons i play have to be listed in my signature?

please dude, don't embarrass yourself any further and just stop posting.

[Mesa]

nah my MA aint using outdated gear, I got all stuff that is needed.
I am just asking for more defense.. ^_^

[McKnuckleSamwich]

we did get more defence when RI stacked with that orange form of something evade buff we got, but then it was removed, don't ask me why, we needed it badly.

[Soliartist]

It was totally cool in mass PvP, and not too overpowered because you could still get perked countless times (debuffs and such from various opponents). In duel mode, RI+FoR(R.I.P) was kinda insane though, as in overpowered. :/