I think elaborating is just engaging in another kick of ye olde dead horse.
Every mongo rage lolwhine thread that has ever been created, is basically the same people regurgitating the same tears, just using different words but using the same tired argument, which the topic often migrates towards shades.
I realize some folks have the brains of goldfish, but really? I'd consider it an improvement if we could just condense it all down to one thread, that way, we can leave the respective bitching in a contained environment.
Renowned jester of the double AS Tigress
MP in sneak eNSDed me and did about 20k damage in 10-12 seconds
every trox uses/have used MR to gain kills/VPs/stuff.. it would be lots of tears if its removed/nerfed.
You hit Tarasque with nanobots for 18280 points of melee damage.
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Renowned jester of the double AS Tigress
MP in sneak eNSDed me and did about 20k damage in 10-12 seconds
Other breeds get kills even w/o MR, its just a crutch at this point that more or less gives you a free win. Fact is its just way to op vs evade profs wich revolve around not getting hit in the first place. Like I said at the begining of the thread, change it to heal delta. It makes more sense for trox to have and wouldnt come close to being nearly as op.
Both Engineer pets hurt.
Bureaucrats' CEO Guardian hurts.
MP pets don't hurt. Mezz gets annoying, though.
Bow MP vs Shade = dead.
Shield MP depends on the disparity in equipment between the two. Far as I know, maxed out Shade beats maxed out MP. Might require SP drains. Can't remember the last time I saw an MP in full alphas/CSS/ACDC PvPing though. Far as MR goes, it's far more powerful in the hands of Enforcers/Pistol weilders than any other professions. 800 AR would be a fair compromise between the lower extremes and the upper extreme that is the current version of the perk, I think.
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You hit Tarasque with nanobots for 18280 points of melee damage.
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I think most ppl are overestimating MR, only way u would die to a MR gank is if ur not paying attention, or all your def tools are in recharge.
I for 1 couldent care less if MR was nerfed or removed, just saying.
No but with those ganking classes without MR I actualy stand a chance of not instant splatting. With MR their is simply no hope. MR makes kills that would normaly be either impossible or very difficult laughably easy instead. The ability is, very simply, to powerfull.
I want to change text from "Mongo Rage" to "You just got owned".
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Dude, seriously... while you're capping ( you cant move or perk) even a shade without MR can STILL kill you. If they have stun procs (not necessary but nice to have) then even doubly so. Backstab, sneak, dimach is quite a large hole opener... that's not including other damage perks.
</rant on> Its not common to survive a single BS without dying, even for the best of the best. Its far more plausible to me, that you've experienced a situation that you feel needs to be changed, surely... but you're going after the wrong unicorn. I've seen way too many ridiculous threads complaining about MR, when most of the time.. people saw an Atrox beating the **** out of them, and just assumed it HAD to be MR (after all, lovechildren are supposed to live forever, amirite?). Because every PVP noob that PL's a (insert X evade prof here), feels that all atroxes come with MR built in or something. And, since the hype around MR is far more OP than MR itself, the cacophony of idiocy espousing that it is the absolute for sure LOLWIN pvp button in the world, the real PVP masters will tell you, its - COMPLETELY - unecessary. In fact, its ridiculously easy to kill MR noobs when they are in recharge. </rant off>
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