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  1. #21
    It was in one of the "Questions for Means" threads.
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  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by navycut View Post
    Although I dislike that AS pistol... My real concern and cause for absolute frustration is it being available to advs, in the hands of advs it caps way too often and is just ridiculous on so many levels.
    Personally I think it would be fun to see a rifle advy using the hunter aspect of the profession. Take away the pistol for all I care, give advies some rifle love so they have a reason to have conceal maxed for PvM!

    Seriously... I am serious, I think it would be fun.

    Course, I'm also the person who wants to do a shotgun soldier....

  3. #23
    yea.

    WHEN?!


    hmm. AS pistol and 80% checking perks? what were they trying to do? kill the game in one patch? sure, it's almost happened before, but seriously, this is like replacing the drip with phosphine concentrate.

    WTB AS GUN GONE Plx. (or 80% checking perks, which is almost as detrimental)

    who thought this stuff up? As if advies didn't have enough love with being unkillable, and crats didn't have enough love with stupidprocs, or, hell, lets talk about docs! ya, doc's didn't have it sorted either! LETS GIVE EM TURBODEATH IWINBUTTON!

    Oh sorry, and engies: Because engies couldn't win in PVP with a remod or a KEC3, and docs couldn't figure out how to use a shovel, or Crats, bleh, advies, omg. it's all such a "I never figured out how to use my prof toolset I want AS and I want deathnukeperks that check 80%"

    woot! gameover.

    /resigned to PVM until AS pistol is NOT ingame.

  4. #24
    *yawn*

    2/10
    Not really much potential.
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  5. #25
    So lets see.. without AS pistol i could annoy many and kill no one.
    With AS pistol i can kill some.

    Its not OP in a crat i'm afraid.. you should see my dmg logs before pointing fingers at crats.
    As you most likely know, its always a tradeoff. Check what those professions lose for using a AS scope, a EOE and a rh or rw AS implant, do the math on what nanoskills you need in each of those prof to cast the top nanos.. even in a "top" setup like full alphas except the slots i mentioned.
    Might be a 'little' OP in ranged advies, but i think its overall balanced.

  6. #26
    LOL @ Gatess

    Dude, this AS pistol is OP'd even in MP's hands.
    Renowned jester of the double AS Tigress

    MP in sneak eNSDed me and did about 20k damage in 10-12 seconds

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by -Klod- View Post
    LOL @ Gatess

    Dude, this AS pistol is OP'd even in MP's hands.
    So.. its not a tradeoff then ?

    My bad, i must be playing Eve.. wrong forums.



    Oh... you can make AS hurt... just lose all mandatory OFAB parts for combined armor and get AS/dmg huds and utils... then a AS pistol crat will hurt a lot, ofc everyone and his mother will perk him, but thats not the point you're making.. or is it?
    Last edited by Gatess; Jun 1st, 2010 at 15:29:25.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Gatess View Post
    Oh... you can make AS hurt... just lose all mandatory OFAB parts for combined armor and get AS/dmg huds and utils... then a AS pistol crat will hurt a lot, ofc everyone and his mother will perk him, but thats not the point you're making.. or is it?
    Dude, don't talk nonsense. You don't become "perkable by everyone and his mother", if you go with AS pistol on crat.
    Renowned jester of the double AS Tigress

    MP in sneak eNSDed me and did about 20k damage in 10-12 seconds

  9. #29
    I heard that the troa'ler pistol will be exempt from the new AS checks.

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  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Sterva View Post
    I heard that the troa'ler pistol will be exempt from the new AS checks.
    AS isnt getting checks! haha!

    Oh wait your post was a troll post

    nvm.
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  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Sterva View Post
    I heard that the troa'ler pistol will be exempt from the new AS checks.
    /win
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  13. #33
    I vote to get rid of ANY weapon that has AS, except the obvious:

    Scoped rifles.

    And make AS take a while to do. like 3-8 seconds random roll.

    Can I get a "hear hear" from gunfytr, esteemed artillery commander from 'nam, korea and any battle in the middle east in the last 20 years?

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by McKnuckleSamwich View Post
    I vote to get rid of ANY weapon that has AS, except the obvious:

    Scoped rifles.

    And make AS take a while to do. like 3-8 seconds random roll.

    Can I get a "hear hear" from gunfytr, esteemed artillery commander from 'nam, korea and any battle in the middle east in the last 20 years?
    Uhh... **** that. As long as I can only hit you at a maximum of 40m away, I'll be firing at you instantly thank you.

    Hell, I can shoot a nerf gun accurately at that distance.
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  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by -Klod- View Post
    Dude, don't talk nonsense. You don't become "perkable by everyone and his mother", if you go with AS pistol on crat.
    Thats not what i said

  16. #36
    Oh and Klod :

    I can't wait for you to prove me wrong.. you have any toon in semi decent gear in RK1 ?

    I'm all up for trying..

    1. Remove the eye control alpha for a EOE/AS implant
    2. Remove the right wrist alpha for a AS implant
    3. Remove the right hand alpha for a AS implant
    4. Change all my AAD OFAB parts for QL300 CSS
    5. Remove a Infused Ancient Defender for a Dread AS thing


    At this point, i can prolly cap 4k AS shots on you.

    Losing the ability to cast IHM and loose another 100 AAD for casting only HM (i'm self buffed in battlestation, so without those symbs and with that armor on i cant cast it)

    So, from OFAB gone i lose also 30 to evades , 150 AAD to add to those 100 AAD from the speech difference.


    ... wanna try it?

    please take note : with such a 'uber' setup i would have to convince some MP friend to come to do BS with me every time.. my CC would be mostly gone, cant land crap with crappy nanoskills
    Last edited by Gatess; Jun 2nd, 2010 at 10:09:14.

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by McKnuckleSamwich View Post
    Can I get a "hear hear" from gunfytr, esteemed artillery commander from 'nam, korea and any battle in the middle east in the last 20 years?
    I never claimed to be a military combat vet.

    edit: For the record, Ive ALWAYS thot AS to be a stupid thing.
    Last edited by Gunfytr; Jun 2nd, 2010 at 10:29:40.
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  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Gunfytr View Post
    I never claimed to be a military combat vet.

    edit: For the record, Ive ALWAYS thot AS to be a stupid thing.
    Yeah mate, but remove AS after giving support profs a viable alternative. Don't remove it cause people are whining.

    Thing is that the ranged advy toolset was already a bit OP before the AS pistol came to play, but thats not crats/engies/docs fault.

    And no.. remod is not a viable choice.

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Gatess View Post
    Oh and Klod :

    I can't wait for you to prove me wrong.. you have any toon in semi decent gear in RK1 ?

    I'm all up for trying..

    1. Remove the eye control alpha for a EOE/AS implant
    2. Remove the right wrist alpha for a AS implant
    3. Remove the right hand alpha for a AS implant
    4. Change all my AAD OFAB parts for QL300 CSS
    5. Remove a Infused Ancient Defender for a Dread AS thing


    At this point, i can prolly cap 4k AS shots on you.

    Losing the ability to cast IHM and loose another 100 AAD for casting only HM (i'm self buffed in battlestation, so without those symbs and with that armor on i cant cast it)

    So, from OFAB gone i lose also 30 to evades , 150 AAD to add to those 100 AAD from the speech difference.


    ... wanna try it?

    please take note : with such a 'uber' setup i would have to convince some MP friend to come to do BS with me every time.. my CC would be mostly gone, cant land crap with crappy nanoskills
    1. done (imp)
    2. done
    3. done
    4. full CSS but gloves
    5. no need

    Can still self everything on NM even without NCU, and could self everything on opi/soli with EOE with NCU.

    Work on your setup a bit more.
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  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Racatti View Post
    1. done (imp)
    2. done
    3. done
    4. full CSS but gloves
    5. no need

    Can still self everything on NM even without NCU, and could self everything on opi/soli with EOE with NCU.

    Work on your setup a bit more.


    wow .. so you can self everything without a eye and righthand symb and no buffing armor? Either nanomages are too OPed in nanoskills or your perk setup must be really weird.

    Where have you spent your ai perk points?

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