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  1. #1

    Remove all nemesis nanos

    So i hate the point the obvious again. but the whole point of nemesis nanos is to completely f over the profession it's suppose to land on. Why do we need this ingame? Just remove them, since it makes the game way more rock paper scissors than anyhthing else.

    If you want to balance a game with these nanos just because the past GD highly advertised these crappy ideas as an great addition to pvp (aka a major selling point in LE), the odds are slim to none.

    Look at the shade's nemesis nano on keepers? How do u plan on balancing that ever? case and point.
    Last edited by Anarchic1; May 10th, 2010 at 13:32:34.
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  2. #2
    Got to admit that some of them don't even make sense. At all. Let's face it, some of these Nanos aren't worth the very few VPs they cost, it's simply awful.
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  3. #3
    I don't see anything RPS about those nanos at all. if you're worried about rock/paper/scissors, remove procs, not something that a player has control over
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  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by RedWatr View Post
    I don't see anything RPS about those nanos at all. if you're worried about rock/paper/scissors, remove procs, something that a player will have control over
    .
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  5. #5
    Less RPS, more RPSLS
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  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by RedWatr View Post
    I don't see anything RPS about those nanos at all. if you're worried about rock/paper/scissors, remove procs, not something that a player has control over
    Enfo's hitting ma's with slowdown isnt RPS?

    /bump for removal

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Vgman01 View Post
    Enfo's hitting ma's with slowdown isnt RPS?

    /bump for removal
    no, it's actually not.

    it may be lame, but it's not RPS.
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    Eightup 158/21 Opi Fix (perfect, maxed twink, definitive "FUN")
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  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by RedWatr View Post
    no, it's actually not.

    it may be lame, but it's not RPS.


    Sorry but your going to have to explain that one to me. One class utterly countering another class sounds pretty RPS to me...

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Omutb View Post
    Less RPS, more RPSLS
    Bazinga!
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  10. #10
    Please edit the title of your thread by replacing the word "nanos" with "tools".

  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Djantro View Post
    Please edit the title of your thread by replacing the word "nanos" with "tools".
    Yeah whatever. RI, slowdown, defeat righteousness etc are all retarded nanos

  12. #12
    This hasn't been suggested before! Good thinking!
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  13. #13
    it's obvious to anyone that some of the nemesis nanos need adjusting, but there are some that work under par (misdiagnoses), and some that have become a necessary and balanced part of a toolset (restrain enthusiasm). making a blanket statement saying they all need to be removed because the entire line falls into the RPS area is wrong. there's nothing finite about the outcome of a fight with the use of the majority of these. I think if I wanted something like this changed I'd work on changing the parts that are broken instead of an entire concept.
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    Renamed (jeycihn) 220/30(so sexy, so Borealis...I miss it the most...still melee <3 thnx for all your help Scum!
    Giit 200/30 NM NT(THE most dangerous, and bitchy thing I ever created)
    Sixunder 158/21 NM Tra (158+SMG=Atomic bomb? Feather pillow? meh, depends on what mood she's in oO)
    Eightup 158/21 Opi Fix (perfect, maxed twink, definitive "FUN")
    Xerrrox 17X Opi Fix (GA4 fr00b...buff prostitute...reason to log in)
    Enjey 60/6 NM Eng (high maintenance OP'ness)
    Nanimated New NM Agent (no patience for it...sigh)
    Somethiing 200 Atrox Sold (potential x1k...not nearly enough "give a f*ck")
    P A R A D I S E ~&~ P A R A S I T E ~&~ B R O K E N ~&~ CCI ~&~ NOTHING PERSONAL

  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by RedWatr View Post
    there's nothing finite about the outcome of a fight with the use of the majority of these.
    That's incorrect. The majority of these will just end the combat.

  15. #15
    What Ocene said. Or they'll at the very least lead the whole fight to a very soon loss.
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  16. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Soliartist View Post
    What Ocene said. Or they'll at the very least lead the whole fight to a very soon loss.
    you say that because you play MA and slowdown hurts you. A lot of nemesis nanos are harmless.
    What's my nemesis nano again? A nanoskill debuff on engies *cough cough*
    Last edited by Szyylin; May 12th, 2010 at 05:20:42.
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  17. #17
    I was tempted to make a post about how unbalanced the nemesis nanos are. But I didn't feel like it, too bad, you coulda witnessed that I don't consider all of them as being major threats. And tbh, even Slowdown barely is one. Mine's a nanoskill debuff on MPs ...

    But, even one or two Nanos that can lead the target affected by the debuff to a certain death shouldn't exist, especially when we know that most of the rest of these nanos are close to useless.
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  18. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchic1 View Post
    So i hate the point the obvious again. but the whole point of nemesis nanos is to completely f over the profession it's suppose to land on.
    At least half of the nemesis nanos range from completely to mostly useless, so its not quite fair to say that is their purpose. It seems more like FC wanted to buff certain professions and gave useless nanos to everyone else to minimize QQing.
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  19. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Szyylin View Post
    you say that because you play MA and slowdown hurts you. A lot of nemesis nanos are harmless.
    What's my nemesis nano again? A nanoskill debuff on engies *cough cough*
    So because something can be devistating to somone else but dosnet hurt you all that much its instantly ok? Yea this game will get really well balanced looking at it that way.

  20. #20
    I don't think he said anything was "ok", his point's the same as mine, and possibly the same as Ange's; a few of them are messed up and certainly need work, but most are reasonable to worthless.
    T O O N Z:
    Renamed (jeycihn) 220/30(so sexy, so Borealis...I miss it the most...still melee <3 thnx for all your help Scum!
    Giit 200/30 NM NT(THE most dangerous, and bitchy thing I ever created)
    Sixunder 158/21 NM Tra (158+SMG=Atomic bomb? Feather pillow? meh, depends on what mood she's in oO)
    Eightup 158/21 Opi Fix (perfect, maxed twink, definitive "FUN")
    Xerrrox 17X Opi Fix (GA4 fr00b...buff prostitute...reason to log in)
    Enjey 60/6 NM Eng (high maintenance OP'ness)
    Nanimated New NM Agent (no patience for it...sigh)
    Somethiing 200 Atrox Sold (potential x1k...not nearly enough "give a f*ck")
    P A R A D I S E ~&~ P A R A S I T E ~&~ B R O K E N ~&~ CCI ~&~ NOTHING PERSONAL

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