Just curious about how you all feel about the 50% crit change. I know many of us use ithacas and x-3s, but from what I've read on other threads I can't seem to get a real feel for how most of the NTs feel about this. Sure it's nice to have our nuke dmg mean more, but its going to be even -harder- to kill healers, and I know many many of us with ithacas will -need- to IPR out of them.
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I'm not a crit reliant NT. I used to be back in the UVC days with my dual Missile Pistols.
I welcome the crit nerf though. It will make the NT's PvP life somewhat easier.
It won't make THAT much of a diference though. We will still be on the bottom of the food chain.
I'm happy with the change. Using Ithaca atm myself tho so will probably have to change weapon. Haven't quite figured out which one i will get yet.
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Welcome it but specails still own us. Since they always hit. so In PVP aginst healers and against specail weilding classes we will suck still. But its a step twowards making the fights more about skils etc instead of a button crit fest.
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I like this change a lot. Tired of dying to mad crits from professions that aren't even supposed crit that often.
I am using an X-3 so I am not crit reliant and I personally don't care much for crits. Selfbuffed I only have 4% crit chance (using TIM's hud upgrade) and my X-3 produces very good non-crit damage.
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are they nerfing crits?
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LOL skill? i think youve confused counter strike with this dude
u just collect items, increase ip and then its like a game of final fantasy i.e no skill watch the computer attack, aim, auto target, select a action etc. (how it would rock if you had to target nukes/guns manually and aim them- then u will need skill)
in other words therel never be any skill required in this game, its the way its designed. unfortunate but true
That might be pushing it... some skill are still needed, especially in team pvp.
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To handle manual aiming, on an environment like this would be insane, the amount of bandwidth would be such that game play would be crippled.Originally posted by Dasin
LOL skill? i think youve confused counter strike with this dude
u just collect items, increase ip and then its like a game of final fantasy i.e no skill watch the computer attack, aim, auto target, select a action etc. (how it would rock if you had to target nukes/guns manually and aim them- then u will need skill)
in other words therel never be any skill required in this game, its the way its designed. unfortunate but true
And there is skill out there, there is timing of when you use things, what weapons/nukes you use to attack things...how you work as a team. Thats all skill, and that is required in this game.
As for crits, yes...good. Anything which limits the damage out put of others makes the NT a more useful profession as a damage dealer. And lets hope the lowering of the evades etc on bosses means that our nuking will also become more consistant with alot lower counters.
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Fling and Crit seem bugged. Anyone notice similar patterns? Is this intentional?
1547 crit dmg, 1547 Fling, 1547 crit.
I was able to produce this pattern. The way you get it to work is wait for a critical shot, then press fling and the fling will equal the crit dmg, then for some strange reason you will crit again.
As for the crit adjustment. Great! This actually puts a little more meaning to our nukes.
Last edited by Billy Talent; Nov 4th, 2002 at 17:23:59.
you need skills to creat you char and yes u need skills to pvp.Originally posted by Dasin
LOL skill? i think youve confused counter strike with this dude
u just collect items, increase ip and then its like a game of final fantasy i.e no skill watch the computer attack, aim, auto target, select a action etc. (how it would rock if you had to target nukes/guns manually and aim them- then u will need skill)
in other words therel never be any skill required in this game, its the way its designed. unfortunate but true
som peeps only think that you hafto press one button and wait, well you wont live long in a fight if u do. im not a skilled pvper and thats the reason i die allot
yes a player whit uber items have a better chanse of winning but i dont think that a total noob could killa skilled pvper even if the noob have uber items and the skilled one only have basic items
w00p w00p!!
the crit nerf will help the docs and the rest of the healers =/
less damage that is easyer to heal
w00p w00p!!
I've noticed when fighting a mob if I crit it or it crits me and one of us attacks immediately after it (within about a quarter second) that hit will be a crit as well. I don't have Fling as an Agent, so I hadn't been able to force an attack like that to extend my critting spree. I'll have to try that and see though.Originally posted by Vegan
Fling and Crit seem bugged. Anyone notice similar patterns? Is this intentional?
1547 crit dmg, 1547 Fling, 1547 crit.
I was able to produce this pattern. The way you get it to work is wait for a critical shot, then press fling and the fling will equal the crit dmg, then for some strange reason you will crit again.
As for the crit adjustment. Great! This actually puts a little more meaning to our nukes.
EDIT - may not be clear there soo...
What I mean is I have seen this:
Real Mean Nerfherder hits you for 3000 points of Nerf Damage.
You hit Real Mean Nerfherder for 4000 points of Get You Back damage.
Its almost like a crit on you invokes a retaliation crit, if you can attack within a certain amount of time afterwards.
Last edited by Miniexplicit; Nov 4th, 2002 at 17:41:54.
Interesting on the crit/fling combo. Never took the time to notice it before because I have damage turned off on chat
The crit nerf is good all around and fair to us because of our nuke damage reduction. Now, we have to see how people feel about Doc heals in PvP
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ah jeez get real
u dont need skill to create a character you NEED TIME (and lots of it i might add)
LOL it doesnt matter how skillfull i am, some dude will always lvl up faster than me, thus be better than me, since he can increase atrribs (which need time), since he plays that much more than me
can a lvl 5 with unlimited skill (relatively speaking) beat a lvl 100 with no skill? hahaha yea right it wont mater how he times his nukes or heals hes dead
A few days ago I was fighting silentman2 (200 Enf over here on RK-2) in 2h0, he critted me about 1700, or close to it I believe. Really hurt... seems un-usually high for pvp..Originally posted by Vegan
Fling and Crit seem bugged. Anyone notice similar patterns? Is this intentional?
1547 crit dmg, 1547 Fling, 1547 crit.
I was able to produce this pattern. The way you get it to work is wait for a critical shot, then press fling and the fling will equal the crit dmg, then for some strange reason you will crit again.
Any the 50% in pvp is great, can't wait until tomorrow.
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how good is your first char?Originally posted by Dasin
ah jeez get real
u dont need skill to create a character you NEED TIME (and lots of it i might add)
LOL it doesnt matter how skillfull i am, some dude will always lvl up faster than me, thus be better than me, since he can increase atrribs (which need time), since he plays that much more than me
can a lvl 5 with unlimited skill (relatively speaking) beat a lvl 100 with no skill? hahaha yea right it wont mater how he times his nukes or heals hes dead
my 2 first chars suckt, then i learnd how to play the game and how to creat my NT, and this one is kinda good now :P
and ther is a reason why a lvl 5 cant pvp a lvl 100..
but if a lvl 200 n00b would duel a lvl 200 HC pvping player the pvp player would own the 200 noob
w00p w00p!!
lol u know what youre saying? youre saying it takes skill to spend time lvling over and over again. repeating the process until you find the best set of atributes for youre class? OMG THAT TAKES SKILL? an 8 year old could do that dude (actually he has more skill LOL just ask someone instead on the forums)
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