Let's bring back Black Sunday...

[Nobody]

Remember the protest days of years ago pre-LE? Once a year every MP on each server would get together and protest that FC was ignoring our pleas to make us a half-way decent profession in the game, I think it's time we take those drastic measures again. Funcom obviously will not listen to us without getting to the point where a mob of players has to activley disrupt gameplay on the server before they'll take any notice of us. We have legitamite issues that aren't being adressed, we're the only profession in-game that is literally not needed for anything, in any instance, raid, pf, etc. We're no more than buffing totems for the general public. We've been trying to talk devs into doing something for years to make MP a more viable profession again, but they're obviously just not listening.

So to anyone else who is interested in getting FC to adress our issues, I say we plan a date to log our MP's and storm populated areas of the servers (bor/ICC/Jobe/etc).

[If6was9]

You're the only profession that combines real mezz, healing and damage power. Not sure what you're smoking. MPs are more desired in teams than 2/3rds of the other professions.

[Dancingrage]

I'd say wait until after the rebalancing docs are released and if there's still a problem then yes.

[Phargus]

You're the only profession that combines real mezz, healing and damage power. Not sure what you're smoking. MPs are more desired in teams than 2/3rds of the other professions.

Till tl7, then it's the least desirable profession to team with by a fairly wide margin

[Nobody]

You're the only profession that combines real mezz, healing and damage power. Not sure what you're smoking. MPs are more desired in teams than 2/3rds of the other professions.

at lower levels maybe, TL7 onwards there's nothing MP's can do that other profs can't do 10x better.

[Xtremtech]

Funcom obviously will not listen to us without getting to the point where a mob of players has to activley disrupt gameplay on the server before they'll take any notice of us.

Black Sunday didn't actually achieve any substantive change that we're aware of. There was no push of new MP stuff that came from the march. There was also no disruption of gameplay on the server at all... if you weren't on the march, then you'd barely have known it happened to be honest.

If you're expecting that doing a Black Sunday march is more likely to get positive change for the profession... then your expectations are probably too high.

We've been trying to talk devs into doing something for years to make MP a more viable profession again, but they're obviously just not listening.

Well... there's all the stuff to come in the rebalancing. FC has already promised ground up rebuilds and improvements to all pets, nuke improvements, changes to make creation weapons more powerful/useful, Damage-to-Nano and Damage-to-Pets are suggested too. Mez Pet line is to be diversified with a variety of different effects on different pets in the line...

It's not like this is a period where FC isn't listening to the community. In fact, if anything it's the opposite. We have direct input into the design process through the professionals and the Balance forums - and we've already seen that discussions through both those avenues have changed the design documentation for changes... so we know that FC is listening and reacting to feedback. They're also actively publishing their plans for change well ahead of implementation... something that's never really been done before by an AO dev team.


Black Sunday was good for the community at the time, that felt powerless and frustrated. There had been very little in the way of communication from FC and there was a feeling that all our ideas and wishlists etc were falling on deaf ears. There had been no substantive changes at all in the MP toolset for years at that time.... It made the MP community feel good to come together and really make a noise, to get some of their frustration out.

But that's not really been the case over the last few years - see SS, SoZ, Nanodmg and Heal efficiency debuffs, Masters Bidding, MIMQ/MIGL, Pet calm/charm resists, pet NR buffs, improved Dmg debuffs, 2HB staves etc.... we can argue that the changes haven't been great or have even been counter-productive - but it's not as though there's been no attempts to improve the MP.

I've nothing against reviving the march per se... but the conditions that brought about the march really aren't around these days. There has been development of the MP toolset and there has been a real dialogue lately between FC and the community about how the game needs to move forward and about the changes that MPs need. I'm not really sure that a march is all that necessary...

X

[-Klod-]

MPs are fine.

[Mountaingoat]

You're the only profession that combines real mezz, healing and damage power. Not sure what you're smoking. MPs are more desired in teams than 2/3rds of the other professions.

Fake mez that takes 7s or more to land on a stationary target while only working on one target at a time, poor healing, average damage. MPs have nothing of critical value to offer teams (such as big heals, tanking, big dd, real calms & CC, big init debuffs, etc.) and what we do have (some damage mitigation that takes great fervor to use), another profession can do better (passive reflects while simultaneously doing big DD). NSD is not NEEDED for anything and agents can cast it anyway. We are just a warm body to fill teams with when teams have what they need to complete something and LFT is sparse.

That being said, I agree with Xtrem. We have been improved but now we have fallen behind again. Rebalancing Soon(TM) yields at least a sliver of optimism.

[Flynicist]

MPs are more desired in teams than 2/3rds of the other professions.

Combining many powers at once doesn't mean it makes us viable, or desired, or even being able to control them both. Who cares if we can heal, make damage and root (lol, talk about mezz) the few targets not immune? Teams are usually a combination of the best of each type, Doctor, Enforcer, Soldier, Crat, voila, your logic would mean that we'd be able to do anything with 6 MPs in the team.

Oh, and don't forget to share what YOU're smoking.

[Dancingrage]

Combining many powers at once doesn't mean it makes us viable, or desired, or even being able to control them both. Who cares if we can heal, make damage and root (lol, talk about mezz) the few targets not immune? Teams are usually a combination of the best of each type, Doctor, Enforcer, Soldier, Crat, voila, your logic would mean that we'd be able to do anything with 6 MPs in the team.

Oh, and don't forget to share what YOU're smoking.

Hey, after rebalancing I'm all for 6 MPs doing everything, it would mean we'd be in a good solid position all around.

[Esssch]

Hey, after rebalancing I'm all for 6 MPs doing everything, it would mean we'd be in a good solid position all around.

Like we could find 6 MPs ingame!

[Chrys]

Like we could find 6 MPs ingame!

thats why we need a server merge!

[Oliveerz]

Im a mp! im ALIVE!

[Jandorith]

I was using my MP......For the HP on a friend's enf so he could level my doc... Does that count?

[Johnnykay]

Team of 6 MP's could sure build the hell out of crystals

[Chrys]

guys Means </3 sarcasm we r never gonna get fixed at this rate