More Versions of Hellfyre Suit

[Towerblock]

Aye, bump again.

[NixBood]

100 to nanoskills be a bit too much, maybe a slight bit less (otherwise you will see a TON of those glaicer suits running around.

Then again, a NT couldnt use Deck nukes with it......soooo why not?

+100 to nanoskills seems pretty fine, just like +100 to ranged skills was fine, and +100 to melee skills would be fine.

I don't quite get what you're saying about the NT comment. Social armor has never locked out any weapons, and if you're saying that in this case it should, I'd say that the statement is naught but unnecesary NT hate (in which case I would be quite disapointed in you, Metalynx ;P).

[Dancingrage]

I'm sure there'd be lots of these suits running around. I actually think lower ql versions wouldn't hurt either, but that's just me and my liking the idea of battlesuits vs how they wind up working out in game (the idea of a self-contained butt kicking piece of armor is pretty cool, battlesuits as they're implemented outside of Hellfyre are not so cool.)

Upon hearing that there were going to be new Battlesuits I pretty much jumped for joy, I hope some of these ideas make it in to the final cut!

[Dangerbot]

I'd like to see the requirements of the Hellfyre suit, or any subsequent suit based off it, reduced to 900/900.

Its very nature, being social armour that does not work with all but a very select collection of items makes it very difficult to equip for a wide group of people - which also limited its popularity severely. And of course even if you get it on, theres a great deal of people who couldn't maintain it out of oe.

By its benefits, its clearly geared at casual players who want a nice bit of armour without spending their entire lives farming money. As the OP eludes to, it is the poor mans CSS. What casual player gets 1000 strength and 1000 agility without wearing any armour at any level except 220. Its contradictory in design.

900/900 makes it a lot more accessable to equip, a good 213ish, a great 210ish. And for those casual folks, somewhere between 215 and 220. This would also be true for proposed varieties.

Like it or not, most 220's in this game are multi-billionares, with the way the Nodrop markets work. They are highly lucrative, and quite accessable for small groups to make good fast money out of it. Anyone whos rich wont want this, anyone who isnt, cant equip it. Can't recall the last time I saw a non-froob in a battlesuit.

Btw, I like the idea of multiple battlesuits. One of the recent FWM's mentioned one of the dev's wants to play around with making more battlesuits, and it seemed they were talking about more than just an item with stats on it. New looks, new feels, new applications. Me, I'd love to be a miniature unicorn for a while. Or variation on this. Big shoulder dynamos, huge guns with ammo belts, big bulky space suit. Mmmm.

[Metalynx]

+100 to nanoskills seems pretty fine, just like +100 to ranged skills was fine, and +100 to melee skills would be fine.

I don't quite get what you're saying about the NT comment. Social armor has never locked out any weapons, and if you're saying that in this case it should, I'd say that the statement is naught but unnecesary NT hate (in which case I would be quite disapointed in you, Metalynx ;P).

Well the only thing I was looking at was a nt wearing one (getting 100 nanoskills) then slapping a Deck on (another 100 nanoskills). Given that its a single bit of armor to be gained, compared to a full suit of Arith (for example) it would be far too easy to get +200 nanoskills, compared to collecting a suit of armor piecemeal (gotta have some challenge).

Course I wouldnt complain I guess, would make it bargin basement easier to get my NT a suit of armor

Battlesuits shooting magic from their hands for the win!

[grumpy-mcfart]

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[Dancingrage]

Hoping FC doesn't just cater to the musclely folks when they make new battlesuits. Bump also to see new pics of what these suits will look like.

[thecheeseman]

combat medic battle armor: adds nanoskills + heal effeicency + %cost + aad
combat technician battle armor: add nanoskill + %nano dmg + aad
combat soldier battle armor: dmg+ aao +>>> reflects <<<+ ranged skills
notum miner exoskeleton: melee skills + more aao + hp

[Dancingrage]

The problem with add reflect armor is you have more than just Soldiers that would use it. Shield MPs have the ability to get up a hell of a lot of reflects for a squishy 'support' prof, and if you give them any more they'll stop being mortal altogether. If they put it in tho, I'd use it. I'd have done the same thing with the Charon if it made it in with the 90% reflect it started life with.

That said, there's a lot of potential options for any suit, so I'm open to suggestions.

[thecheeseman]

as a soldier i use the 5% from ofab back and 7% from rk bracer. soldier is all about the reflects. if there is no reflect mod id never use any kind of battlesuits.

even the rk abaddon suit added 2% and 4% for fire dmg. i think 5% to 15% reflect mod is a must.

if a mp wants to use the reflect battlesuit with zero nanoskill buffs thats fine with me


maybe the mods for the battlesuits can be like the upgrade slots like the upgrade cards for the abaddon suit?
also would be nice if you use a built in weapon on the battlesuit instead of your own weapon
would be awsome if i can wear a battlesuit and fire dual laser cannons or giant chainguns

i wish battlesuits would be walking tanks of destruction with like -2000 runspeed debuff and insane dmg. *dreams

[Dancingrage]

Up to the top, want to see moar feedback!

[Dancingrage]

*wiggles fingers* Riiise, my thread!

[Notcrattey]

oh hai

[Mastablasta]

The suits are nice for cheap runnings, as it's not all that uber, and many will after endgame raiding opt for something else. As someone who doesn't have 50 alts and hasn't been playing the game for years, it would be a nice piece of gear. The battlesuits have traditionally not been worn much, as they simply couldn't compete with gear made out of various pieces of armor with individual bonuses. It could fly. I see a few of the hellfyre suits around, provided they're not social tabbed..

[Dancingrage]

Indeed, Masta, which is why I made this suggestion. The Magma suit's great for replacing CSS while not managing to outpower it. I'd pop it on a pistol toon while farming up other stuff, for instance.

A few other varieties would do wonders for those who are slower on farming the creds/ai drops but still want to have a competitive setup.

And for whatever reason, battlesuits in general can't be social tabbed. Shame, I've had a Magma suit on my MP for ages and would have been happy to run around in it for social for a while instead of my MP T3, but I got that before I got my 225 scout suit, I did intend to put it to use in the event I needed to.

[Dancingrage]

Still interested in a few reworks of hellfyre suits....

[Dancingrage]

Bah, long distance bump after moving, any more interest in poor man's AI armor?

[Notcrattey]

I bump this thread!

[Sawbones2]

so do I!

[Dancingrage]

And another ancient history bump: This suit has excellent potential and not developing the idea more is just a waste.