122 fixer here who regularly pulls agro from 140+ soldiers, adv, and Enforcers
bump
122 fixer here who regularly pulls agro from 140+ soldiers, adv, and Enforcers
bump
*bump*
Btw; improvement to line of soldier tuants (which as far as I can tell don't work half a lick) would be more than welcome.
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MP's curse of chronos has a taunt factor of 5663
MP's Mind Quake has a taunt factor of 1491
Open with a MQ nuke and then hit the MOB with curse of Chronos. Does it seem fair to anyone that MP's should be able to out-taunt an enforcer with the added effect of doing up to 1500dmg, debuffing all nanoskills by 100 and immobilizing the opponent for a few seconds?
Yes, boost enforcer mongos by a factor of 2. I'm scared to even know what taunt factor NT nukes have.....
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funny thing is deakon that our FIRST mongo has more tauntpoints than a Q93 single target taunt
Increase mongo by2x, increase single taunts by 10x, then our single taunt line will be slightly better than mongo for the quality.
then boost ma and solja taunts so they can hold agro if I am not around (probably not quite as high as enforcers as agro is our job, but high enough to keep agro).
Then boost agro enhancers and da taunters to actually be usefull (if you look at Q200 agro enhancers they are pathetic, same with da taunter).
dont know how this got to game mechanics as I want this on the next patch and it is where I posted, but such is life, just keep the thread alive!!!!
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I would have to say that this is an typicall example of how an flame should not look like. You need to think things through and calm down before you try to write an flame... Im sorry but I would rate this flame with an 1. Aggression is to high, grammar and cursing isnt to well planned... Maybe he has an point somewhere in there but I dont even want to find it. - Centurion3
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I am slacking
and I am slacking on that email to you CZ
ill have do that soon
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I would have to say that this is an typicall example of how an flame should not look like. You need to think things through and calm down before you try to write an flame... Im sorry but I would rate this flame with an 1. Aggression is to high, grammar and cursing isnt to well planned... Maybe he has an point somewhere in there but I dont even want to find it. - Centurion3
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We hear a lot of talk about profession luv patches. Enforcers need a hate patch.
More aggro for enfs.
Heals - they're not just for tradeskills anymore
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roflolOriginally posted by Hypos
We hear a lot of talk about profession luv patches. Enforcers need a hate patch.
More aggro for enfs.
YES YES... GIVE US A HATE PATCH
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I would have to say that this is an typicall example of how an flame should not look like. You need to think things through and calm down before you try to write an flame... Im sorry but I would rate this flame with an 1. Aggression is to high, grammar and cursing isnt to well planned... Maybe he has an point somewhere in there but I dont even want to find it. - Centurion3
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Originally posted by Yazule
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YES YES... GIVE US A HATE PATCH
"Enforcer hate patch" I think I like the sound of that. As long as it contains MOB hate towards us. Not FunCom hate towards us. If you know what I mean......
Funniest thing is, the people best at retaining aggro are NTs. Electrifying containment alone is almost 7K, and NTs can spam those once every 4 seconds. A level 150 NT can easily steal aggro from even the highest damage dealing level 200 MA.
yeah, and the taunt factor on some of your nano's is greater than ANY taunt item/nano enforcers have in their arsenal... add to that the damage of that taunting nuke *shudder*...Originally posted by PipBoy
Funniest thing is, the people best at retaining aggro are NTs. Electrifying containment alone is almost 7K, and NTs can spam those once every 4 seconds. A level 150 NT can easily steal aggro from even the highest damage dealing level 200 MA.
love HE, hate teamin with NT's though if I am expected to keep agro
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I would have to say that this is an typicall example of how an flame should not look like. You need to think things through and calm down before you try to write an flame... Im sorry but I would rate this flame with an 1. Aggression is to high, grammar and cursing isnt to well planned... Maybe he has an point somewhere in there but I dont even want to find it. - Centurion3
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Here ya go folks...a complete list of all items with Taunts on them. =)
Apologize for not hot-linking them...but it would have shoved me over the post size limit for the boards, and figured it was better to have them in one full list than linked. The AOID is provided, so you can plug it in at:
http://v020u46eff.maximumasp.com/AOD...tem.asp?AOID=X
-JaydeCode:Taunt Item Name QL AOID 10000 Mongo Crush Taunt 100195 8720 Total Mental Domination 179 99192 7520 Inveigle Support 162 99194 7000 Mongo Smash Taunt 100196 6680 Insidious Beguilement 152 99195 6183 Electrifying Containment 185 28604 5857 Living Embalming 175 30079 5756 Allure of Servitude 136 99198 5663 Curse of Chronos 169 29285 5372 Chains of Iron 165 30060 5000 Mongo Bash Taunt 100193 4900 My Brain For Your Brain 186 143898 4886 Death's Gaze 142 25980 4850 Captivated Thoughts 109 99199 4660 Tight Embrace 159 29199 4369 Neural Stunner 152 28625 4366 Control Ends and Means 176 143894 4344 Izgimmer's Enveloping Flame 182 28616 3824 Thought Juggler 159 143895 3800 Impose Will 86 99201 3476 Redirect Neural Signals 149 143896 3173 Displace Thought Patterns 189 99209 2950 Solicit Support 63 99202 2924 Thought Controller 126 143897 2890 Glacial Finality 175 45233 2840 Charismatic Rapture 169 99193 2781 Gravitational Anomaly 169 45234 2652 Warmth of the Grave 189 45192 2600 Temporary Allegiance 159 99196 2520 Burning Bones 182 28597 2520 Furious Assault 83 28610 2500 Mongo Slam Taunt 100194 2442 Searing Circle 152 45213 2358 Enrapturing Bondage 149 99197 2335 Dominate Psyche 47 99204 2278 Brain Bender 97 142767 2118 Contained Plasma Sphere 136 45237 2116 Siren Call 123 30092 1994 Internal Combustion 162 28613 1934 Molecular Flechettes 165 45217 1903 Lesser Charismatic Rapture 96 99200 1891 Compacted Neutron Missile 165 28600 1800 Aggression Multiplier (Jealousy Augmented)200 152028 1786 Deep Thought 74 142771 1767 Eternal Enmity 162 100214 1718 Bend Will 33 99206 1665 Thunderous Blow 43 45202 1664 Primal Hatred 139 100209 1661 Pheromone Control 76 30086 1617 Only You, Only Me 152 29242 1511 Crown of Frost 156 45239 1491 Mind Quake 173 125761 1479 Personal Magnetism 53 99203 1450 Brain Swap 50 142768 1301 Soft Siren Call 40 99205 1291 Seething Resentment 136 100216 1244 Id Assault 132 100207 1223 Temporary Glamor 20 99208 1150 Lesser Pheromone Control 27 99207 1123 Roar of Aggression 116 100210 1114 Mental Switcheroo 34 142769 1000 Presence of the Overlord 162836 982 Wrath Abatement 179 99113 890 Aggressive Captivation 90 29218 869 Lull Wrath 162 99123 850 Library of Foul Language 200 165111 843 Encourage Hatred 86 100215 800 Modified Aggression Enhancer 200 151693 800 Aggression Multiplier 200 83919 800 Da Taunter!! 200 158046 780 Project Thought Patterns 17 142770 759 Wrath Ebb 149 99114 750 Presence of the Overlord 162835 740 Decrepitude 72 99585 712 Annoying Presence 70 100205 705 Uncontrollable Body Tremors 185 99577 693 Spin Nanoweb 82898 657 Temper Wrath 136 99116 638 Baleful Stare 57 100212 593 Festering Plague 152 28661 585 Leisurely Interrogation 165 56207 582 Distracting Nuisance 53 100217 574 Greater Fear of Attention 82137 574 Rage Eradication 116 99115 561 Mass Gravity Bindings 82901 557 Rapid Palsy 159 99579 535 Fear of Attention 82138 500 Presence of the Master 162834 496 Rage Abolishment 93 99117 489 Greater Paralyze with Indecision 149 56208 478 Enforced Sloth 82892 456 Swap Psyche 4 142766 449 Greater Net Cast Wide 82904 444 Captivating Speech 152 55982 438 Entrap Victim 142 56209 431 Rage Suppression 76 99118 420 Wasted Limbs 99 99576 418 Lesser Fear of Attention 82139 414 Induce Musculature Spasms 126 99583 387 Greater Delay Pursuers 82889 385 Greater Hold Victim 83 56210 362 Spin Weak Nanoweb 82897 349 Enraged Mind 30 100206 344 Stifle Rage 53 99119 339 Aggressive Instincts 27 100211 333 Prolonged Interrogation 119 56211 331 Greater Delay the Inevitable 90 82545 330 Flow of Time 82148 326 Greater Mass Illusory Paralysis 82140 315 Null Space Disruptor 154711 309 Legions of the Eyeblighter 83940 301 Advanced Frailty 66 99586 300 Apple Seed - Special Arrows 100 158597 299 Disruptive Retributive Negator 154706 291 Weighty Announcement 82896 287 Muscle Atrophy 83 99581 281 Paralyze with Indecision 99 56212 277 Quench Anger 40 99120 277 Disruptive Void Projector 154701 274 Bad Blood 24 28866 269 Invasive Distributed Entanglement 82903 264 Greater Restrict Movement 99 55986 254 Delay the Inevitable 63 82539 251 Rigid Stance 82141 245 Disruptive Phase Harmonics 154712 241 Mass Pronounce Blindness 83939 238 Disruptive Retaliatory Negator 154707 238 Delay Pursuers 82890 237 Hold Victim 132 56213 232 Disruptive Photon Annihilator 154702 232 Greater Enforced Sloth 82895 220 Pestering Gadfly - Special Arrows 100 159064 214 Net Cast Wide 82900 212 Mass Cornea Attack 83941 212 Pyramid Marketing 82147 209 Quell Anger 30 99122 207 Blizzard of Red Tape 50 82477 199 Draw Attention 14 100208 194 Disruptive Photon Devourer 154703 194 Greater Detain Suspect 66 56214 184 Exhaust Muscles 43 99584 184 Disruptive Barrier Negator 154708 181 Ego Pummel 14 26418 180 Captivate Crowd 82142 180 Active Distributed Entanglement 82905 178 Disruptive Cocoon Harmonics 154713 176 Lesser Delay the Inevitable 37 82542 174 Phantom Weight 30 99580 161 Lesser Weighty Announcement 82893 151 Disruptive Photon Absorber 154704 150 Brief Interrogation 47 56215 149 Lesser Delay Pursuers 82891 140 Nervejolt 149973 140 Enveloping Darkness 83938 133 Lesser Net Cast Wide 82902 125 Taunting Glare 7 100213 124 Disruptive Shielding Negator 154709 122 Douse Anger 14 99121 119 Capture Attention 82143 108 Disruptive Photon Deflector 154705 106 Lesser Paralyze with Indecision 33 56217 104 Disruptive Field Harmonics 154714 103 Wild Eye Gouger 83945 100 Terrifying Mind Pulse 156589 99 Postpone Encounter 14 82537 97 Lesser Muscle Atrophy 17 99582 94 Tired Limbs 7 99578 93 Lesser Enforced Sloth 82894 89 Gouge Eyes 27 83942 87 Ego Taunt 4 29228 83 Mass Illusory Paralysis 82144 81 Passive Distributed Entanglement 82899 77 Mass Claw Eyes 83946 75 Disruptive Field Negator 154710 75 Aggression Enhancer (Jealousy Augmented) 1 152029 67 Sticky Ground 82146 62 Lesser Hold Victim 17 56216 60 Shed Anger 7 99112 59 Aggression Prod 1 26341 50 Enmity 30 26421 40 Mass Daze 82145 30 Library of Foul Language 1 165112 25 Aggression Enhancer 1 83920 25 Da Taunter! 1 158045 25 Modified Aggression Enhancer 1 151692 18 Detain Suspect 1 56218 15 HSR Hedgehog 23 Throwing Grenade 1 164780 15 HSR Hedgehog 23 Throwing Grenade 200 164781 15 May Fly Throwing Grenade 1 165116 15 May Fly Throwing Grenade 200 165117 15 Apple Seed - Special Arrows 1 158596 -5 The Repressor 1 159196 -3000 Resonance Blast 200 201935 -3000 The Repressor 400 159197
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I have to retract my comment about NT nuke taunts being better than ANYTHING we have.
Just better than anything I have at 142 (til I get smash at 144)
even with smash at 7k taunt points I would bet my 200 beam that Curse of crono's does more agro with its damage figured in.
Meaning I do not have anything better till my 190ish level Mongo crush (when nobody cares about agro anymore because mobs drop in about .5 seconds)
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I would have to say that this is an typicall example of how an flame should not look like. You need to think things through and calm down before you try to write an flame... Im sorry but I would rate this flame with an 1. Aggression is to high, grammar and cursing isnt to well planned... Maybe he has an point somewhere in there but I dont even want to find it. - Centurion3
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I'll give'er a bump. I take it very personally when a team-member dies and loses xp because I can't pull aggro off them. I can mongo/da taunter!! my butt off to no effect and then I'm really stuck as my nanopool ain't as deep as it ought to be. I don't remember whose sig it was that said "Enforcers don't just take damage like a pro, they pour milk over it, eat it with a spoon and smile." Just a thought but thats the way things should actually be.
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