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Thread: Friday with Means - April 24th, 2009

  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Means View Post

    Neutrals, Blunt Enforcers, and Ranged Advies are not issues that are going to be addressed in a quick band-aid like fashion. These issues will just have to wait until an appropriate and discussed resolution can be found.
    OMGZ there's a faint light at the end of the tunnel after all?!

    Since, obviously, you don't consider FA an appropirate resolutions for ranged advies, how about giving us something akin docs pistols. With one pvm proc on each and the third firing off in pvp only when the first two overlap
    (The idea's been blatently stolen from an orgmate, thanks Moohs )

    And fix our perks please!
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  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Verta View Post
    OMGZ there's a faint light at the end of the tunnel after all?!

    Since, obviously, you don't consider FA an appropirate resolutions for ranged advies, how about giving us something akin docs pistols. With one pvm proc on each and the third firing off in pvp only when the first two overlap
    (The idea's been blatently stolen from an orgmate, thanks Moohs )

    And fix our perks please!
    Proc PvP is bad, mkay.
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    in the end soldier is not Op or even near from that never was never will be just for the record only keepers are the ones before soldiers on the nerfest list
    Genius at work.

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Hacre View Post
    Proc PvP is bad, mkay.
    Insofar as not having any control of it, sure. But most other kids got it, and even we have that nuke that fixers cry about.

    Anywho, be constructive please, offer suggestions so "appropriate and discussed resolution can be found" while there are still some ranged advies left.
    Last edited by Verta; Apr 25th, 2009 at 03:24:29.
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  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Means View Post
    Neutrals, Blunt Enforcers, and Ranged Advies are not issues that are going to be addressed in a quick band-aid like fashion. These issues will just have to wait until an appropriate and discussed resolution can be found.
    I hope this doesn't mean you consider fixers fixed. ;p
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  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Kain97 View Post
    I hope this doesn't mean you consider fixers fixed. ;p
    Yes, naturally if it wasn't in his short post he considers it 100% great!
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  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Means View Post
    Neutrals, Blunt Enforcers, and Ranged Advies are not issues that are going to be addressed in a quick band-aid like fashion. These issues will just have to wait until an appropriate and discussed resolution can be found.
    That's all I ever asked for. I'd just like a little more clarification on 'when' more than 'what.' Understandably, what Hacre said is probably right. LoX stuff first. But, on the other hand I'm not gonna let Means forget
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  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Means View Post
    We have an ongoing financial commitment to our current provider for some time to come...so our current servers will be sitting and doing nothing shortly...and being paid for.
    Then this is your chance to make use of this hardware and backbone to bring a new feature to AO: the nostalgia server with AO version 14.9! For strictly nostalgic purposes of course, no further development needed.
    ಠ_ಠ

  8. #48
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  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by SultryVoltron View Post
    That's all I ever asked for. I'd just like a little more clarification on 'when' more than 'what.' Understandably, what Hacre said is probably right. LoX stuff first. But, on the other hand I'm not gonna let Means forget
    I'm realistic but I'd like to see with what sauce I'll be eaten, both as neutral and soldier. At least it's good to know that it's a big modification, even going back to old perks and items. Because policy so far is to not look back at broken stuff, attempting to replace a broken element by another at best.
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  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ganiscol View Post
    Then this is your chance to make use of this hardware and backbone to bring a new feature to AO: the nostalgia server with AO version 14.9! For strictly nostalgic purposes of course, no further development needed.
    /Bump
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  11. #51
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  12. #52
    the only reason why i come to these parts of forums is to see screenys of new engine, GIEF!

  13. #53
    I see no reason to come here at all, since I saw mentioning neuts, 1hb enfs and advies as something that needs fixing and yet none mentions FIXERS at all.
    FC and their broken unbalanced games. One would think they will learn something in so many years.
    I can afford 15€ a month for a chat program but I am not sure anymore its worth it even for that.

  14. #54
    Dear Means,

    first of all, thank you for the dialog every friday! The idea is great. However, you seem to only respond to the RK1 and RK2 issues. Please answer to, at least SOME, of the questions, the german community addressed.

    If you need translation, i am glad to help, and i guess Waldgeist might be of help too, his translations are always pretty much to the point!

    Hoping for the best..

    Nevo
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  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylinne View Post
    I see no reason to come here at all, since I saw mentioning neuts, 1hb enfs and advies as something that needs fixing and yet none mentions FIXERS at all.
    FC and their broken unbalanced games. One would think they will learn something in so many years.
    I can afford 15€ a month for a chat program but I am not sure anymore its worth it even for that.
    I'm concerned about MAs myself, last beast I was on there was 20 soldiers and 1 MA. Said MA was afk and didn't join the raid.
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  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylinne View Post
    I see no reason to come here at all, since I saw mentioning neuts, 1hb enfs and advies as something that needs fixing and yet none mentions FIXERS at all.
    FC and their broken unbalanced games. One would think they will learn something in so many years.
    I can afford 15€ a month for a chat program but I am not sure anymore its worth it even for that.
    Oh grow up already

    So he mentioned 3 things. If you believe Means thinks there are only 3 things that needs attention in AO then I can understand your frustration to some degree but clearly.. just because he mentioned 3 things, that doesn't mean those are the only 3 things he plans to look at.

    Those 3 things are >examples<, not actual patchnotes.

    Calm down, take a breath
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  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Hacre View Post
    Proc PvP is bad, mkay.
    Agreed, also giving everyone AS is a bad idea too & definitely what I'd call a "band-aid fix" Really, aside from our crappy perks, lack of new pistols and unreliable FA due to complete lack of FA support I don't think the way ranged adventurers work right now is too bad.

    New pistol(s) - I don't see any problems with adding a new FA pistol/slightly upgraded JEPP. We don't need a huge damage increase though.
    FA support & AAO - Don't see any issues with this either, although we would have to wait for a more suitable time for this to be added (would be nice if FA was added to the adventurer stellar nanodeck though, or if the Burst modifier was changed to FA)
    Fixing perks - This will take more effort to resolve than our weapon/FA issues so I can understand needing to wait for this too. I'd like to get more than just "more reliable, higher DD" perks though.
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  18. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Wrangeline View Post
    Calm down, take a breath
    Reroll trader and pwn everything too?
    Yeah I can understand how some people can be grown up when they actually have all the fun in game.

  19. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylinne View Post
    Reroll trader and pwn everything too?
    Fail to see how traders are related to this
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  20. #60
    /me fails to see how this matters at all, the changes aren't going to be made tomorrow even if they are in the production stage.

    The whole "WHAT ABOUT!!!" post are like someone worried because they don't have flood insurance for a house in the desert that they don't own.
    "A whole new place to run around for ages in then die suddenly without warning."

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