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    TL5 pvp Fixer Info

    Post Originally on Xyphos

    So, ill post the information I have gathered to twink my fixer, anyone that wants to can use it as a source of information.

    My Old Setup
    My New Setup

    My setups are focused on Tower Wars mostly, but also work very well on BS, and not to bad in duels for a fixer.

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    186 eoe on a level 168 clan opi fixer

    With This Setup
    (setup changed to what I actually used, I think its the best out of all I looked at)

    300 Large HQ
    200 Treatment Contract
    (alternatively you could use 100 str/100 treatment and use a second lya sleeve, but 200 treatment contract fits in with most standard orgs better)

    Comp Attributes, FG, ES, Behe, Prod Strength, Treatment Expertise, Clinic, SFA, NS, Extruder Bar

    Acro 4, DNA 8, First Aid 3, Freak Strength 1
    Combat Knowledge 8, Opi Primary 3, Opi Secondary 8
    All LE researces

    I came out with (actually twinked ingame now)

    end with 872 Str, 871 Agility, 875 Sense, 1360 Treatment
    needed 869 Str, 869 Agility, 869 Sense, 1360 Treatment

    Hope this helps anyone wanting to twink a high eoe at tl5

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    IP Setup Before Retwink

    IP Setup After Retwink (had only Behe running)

    If I was to refine that IP setup even more, I would probably lessen my nano init to 1225 and put that extra IP into complit for higher eoe

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    Monkeyninja's Post on equiping ql 200 Ofab Hawk Mk 5

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    Here are my configs for some of the hardest symbiants to get in at level 168

    230 Right Hand
    No contracts needed

    230 Brain Symbiant Support
    Contracts Needed: 100 Intel, 240 Treatment

    186 EOE
    Contracts Needed: 200 Treatment
    (See above for more detailed notes on this one)

    I have done all these symbs in game now, Right hand and EOE setups are exact, I dont remember the exact setup I used for Brain, but that one is very close.

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    It is technically possible for a 170+ opi fixer to equip Special Edition Ofab Fixer Helmet (maybe lower if you manage to get some nice ql lya pads from Halloween and use a ip setup that allows for it.)

    With this Setup, and all appropriate buffs/research and 250 agility contract you can barely slip into it.

    I haven't looked into it to thoroughly due to the fact I wont be changing my IP setup right now to take such a big risk of trying to equip something that may not benefit me.

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    TL5 Fixer Weapons

    Onehander aka Craphander
    175 Ofab Hawk Mk 5 or 200 Ofab Hawk Mk 5
    Blinded Blackbird
    Alsaqri Chemical Rifle
    Syndicate Messenger Gun
    Unusual Longshot
    Fantaghiro BBI-Viral Gold Star

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    TL5 Fixer Armor

    Combined Sharpshooter's
    223 - lowest ql with most skills before AI 3
    225 - highest ql before AI 3
    233 - next lowest ql per skill points
    244 - highest ql per skill points that is possible to keep 100% (fixers 165 and lower may need a ring that helps keep out of OE)
    Imbued Globe of Clarity
    Barrow Strength
    Might of the Revenant
    Ring of Luck - Offensive
    Fixers' Ring of Breaking
    Pure Novictum Ring for the Artillery Unit
    Boots of the Imaginative
    Syndicate Shades
    Carlos's Danger Pants
    Pointed Hood Clan Omni
    Light Combat Skirt (don't know the name of omni one)
    Penultimate Ofab Fixer Body Armor
    Penultimate Ofab Fixer Sleeves
    Penultimate Ofab Fixer Helmet
    Boots of the Dancing King
    Fly Catcher's Specs
    Mark of the Fisher King

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    Hots and other healing information (%'s based off 4232 hp)

    366 hp/10s - 8.65% hp/10s - Backyard bandages (Proc)
    279.5 hp/10s - 6.6% hp/10s - Backyard Revitalization (Long Hot)
    250 hp/5s - 5.91% hp/5s - Advanced Medical Claim (Short Hot)
    628 hp/40s - 14.84% hp/41s - 125 Simple First-Aid Kit
    376 hp/25s - 8.89% hp/26s - 125 Battle Prepared Treatment Kit

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    PvP Items and some stuff that might be overlooked

    Barrow Strength
    Withered Flesh
    Ring of Eternal Night
    (don't forget to do a totw run, you cant use the IS versions in a standard setup)
    Notum Focus
    Hacked Boosted-Graft: Healing Touch
    Hacked Boosted-Graft: Lesser Deflection Shield (Extended) (Useful for some duels)
    Hacked Boosted-Graft: Feet of Stone
    Hacked Boosted-Graft: Lesser Paralyze with Indecision
    Simple Restoration Kit (I use ql 100-127 kits)
    Cluster Bullets - (Fixer Special Attack)
    Steaming Hot Cup of Enhanced Coffee
    Purifying Rod
    Kizzermole Gumboil
    Lava capsule (To expensive for me, so I use gumboils)
    JJ's Berry (if you feel like farming them and carrying around a backpack full with you)
    Healing (The extra little bit just might be enough sometimes)
    BioMet Incompetence (with zapnano it disables a lot of agent's ability to CH)

    And ofc all the other meds that everyone uses.
    Last edited by Maxisfix; May 15th, 2010 at 06:10:14.
    TL 7
    RK2 - Maxisolja - 220/24 Trox Soldier | RK2 - Blitztrick - 220/25 Soli Fixer E | RK2 - Krakenz - 220/21 Trox Keep
    RK1 - Shanue - 218/30 Opi MA | RK2 - Redenf5 - 218/22 Trox Enf | RK2 - Jrollin - 214/25 Opi Shade
    TL 5
    RK2 - Memorial - 170/16 Opi Engi | RK2 - Maxisfix - 168/21 Opi Fixer E
    RK1 - Clento - 150/20 Soli Soldier | RK1 - Losodoc - 150/20 Soli Doctor
    RK2 - Loso - 150/20 Opi Advy | RK2 - Tachun - 150/13 Opi MP
    RK1 - Krakenz - 150/15 Trox Advy | RK1 - Loso - 150/13 Trox Advyoo.
    TL5 Fixer Information | GMT -08:00 West Coast Canada | Java AO Chat API | Dnet

  2. #2
    Awesome collection of useful info. Just wondering about the QL of css . Guess you opted for 244 not OE instead of 254 OE?

    Anyway sticky into reference thread please!
    Kumo to kumo no aida wo tsukinukete
    Dare mo mita koto no nai basho e
    Yume no naka de egaiteita basho e
    Arifureta SUPIIDO wo koete

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    hehe almost same setup what my fixer was excepts i used ellts and 3 more ai lvl to use opi blind.
    you forgot Steaming Hot Cup of Enhanced Coffee.
    254 goes OE and loosing lots aao
    Last edited by Perskules; Apr 21st, 2009 at 15:44:57.
    Perskules 220/30 Soldier
    Paholainen 220/30 Mp
    Vihu 220/30 Fixer
    Vihulainen 170/22 Fixer
    Persku 170/16 Doctor
    Rankeli 161/16 Tra
    Viikinki 150/20 Keep

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    nice stuff Maxi

    220s "Wakizaka", "Sneakygank", "Wakimango", "Wakisolja", "Tardersauce", "Bushwaki", "Midgetgank", "Bugfixxx", "Ramsbottom", "Paskadoc"
    200s Chrisd, Malema, Delbaeth
    TL5s Youfail, Bugfixx, Riothamus, Johndee

    Proud President of Haven | TL5 PvP


  5. #5
    Not bad, a lot of stuff I remember from when me, monkeyninja, and bornfromhell messed around.

    One thing that could be considered on duel wield setups is hotswapping BBB or KMP with your Hawk. Im not sure what your burst recharge is on hawk but its something to consider and similar to Jobe/Peregrine swap for advy for that extra punch until FA recharges.

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    Added Coffee and BBB

    Hawk has 8s burst recharge easily at tl5, but BBB might be a good idea in FA recharge dude to the higher dmg/bursts.

    Added a armor section with some stuff I remember
    Last edited by Maxisfix; Apr 21st, 2009 at 20:16:08.
    TL 7
    RK2 - Maxisolja - 220/24 Trox Soldier | RK2 - Blitztrick - 220/25 Soli Fixer E | RK2 - Krakenz - 220/21 Trox Keep
    RK1 - Shanue - 218/30 Opi MA | RK2 - Redenf5 - 218/22 Trox Enf | RK2 - Jrollin - 214/25 Opi Shade
    TL 5
    RK2 - Memorial - 170/16 Opi Engi | RK2 - Maxisfix - 168/21 Opi Fixer E
    RK1 - Clento - 150/20 Soli Soldier | RK1 - Losodoc - 150/20 Soli Doctor
    RK2 - Loso - 150/20 Opi Advy | RK2 - Tachun - 150/13 Opi MP
    RK1 - Krakenz - 150/15 Trox Advy | RK1 - Loso - 150/13 Trox Advyoo.
    TL5 Fixer Information | GMT -08:00 West Coast Canada | Java AO Chat API | Dnet

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    Mark of the fisher king

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxisfix View Post
    Hawk has 8s burst recharge easily at tl5, but BBB might be a good idea in FA recharge dude to the higher dmg/bursts.
    Only doable with a QL175 or lower Hawk MK 5, can't hotswap any higher. Oh how I wish we were actually able to weild and hotswap something higher, but FC won't listen to reasoning on adding Full Auto to lower SMG buffs (to damn pre-occupied with TL7 b.s.)

    220s "Wakizaka", "Sneakygank", "Wakimango", "Wakisolja", "Tardersauce", "Bushwaki", "Midgetgank", "Bugfixxx", "Ramsbottom", "Paskadoc"
    200s Chrisd, Malema, Delbaeth
    TL5s Youfail, Bugfixx, Riothamus, Johndee

    Proud President of Haven | TL5 PvP


  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by gatester View Post
    Mark of the fisher king
    added
    TL 7
    RK2 - Maxisolja - 220/24 Trox Soldier | RK2 - Blitztrick - 220/25 Soli Fixer E | RK2 - Krakenz - 220/21 Trox Keep
    RK1 - Shanue - 218/30 Opi MA | RK2 - Redenf5 - 218/22 Trox Enf | RK2 - Jrollin - 214/25 Opi Shade
    TL 5
    RK2 - Memorial - 170/16 Opi Engi | RK2 - Maxisfix - 168/21 Opi Fixer E
    RK1 - Clento - 150/20 Soli Soldier | RK1 - Losodoc - 150/20 Soli Doctor
    RK2 - Loso - 150/20 Opi Advy | RK2 - Tachun - 150/13 Opi MP
    RK1 - Krakenz - 150/15 Trox Advy | RK1 - Loso - 150/13 Trox Advyoo.
    TL5 Fixer Information | GMT -08:00 West Coast Canada | Java AO Chat API | Dnet

  10. #10
    How much AR do you have with this new setup?
    Musha Emaan Boom - 220/20 Adventurer
    West Empaya Athens - 220/26 Fixer
    Anti Rainking Anti 207/21 Keeper
    Forever Sneakez Whatever - Agent
    Uptown Pooncat Girl - 150 MP!

    All members of Equilibrium

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    1744 with 300 HQ and 150 ransacking tower
    TL 7
    RK2 - Maxisolja - 220/24 Trox Soldier | RK2 - Blitztrick - 220/25 Soli Fixer E | RK2 - Krakenz - 220/21 Trox Keep
    RK1 - Shanue - 218/30 Opi MA | RK2 - Redenf5 - 218/22 Trox Enf | RK2 - Jrollin - 214/25 Opi Shade
    TL 5
    RK2 - Memorial - 170/16 Opi Engi | RK2 - Maxisfix - 168/21 Opi Fixer E
    RK1 - Clento - 150/20 Soli Soldier | RK1 - Losodoc - 150/20 Soli Doctor
    RK2 - Loso - 150/20 Opi Advy | RK2 - Tachun - 150/13 Opi MP
    RK1 - Krakenz - 150/15 Trox Advy | RK1 - Loso - 150/13 Trox Advyoo.
    TL5 Fixer Information | GMT -08:00 West Coast Canada | Java AO Chat API | Dnet

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    bump, and added a part about SE helmet
    TL 7
    RK2 - Maxisolja - 220/24 Trox Soldier | RK2 - Blitztrick - 220/25 Soli Fixer E | RK2 - Krakenz - 220/21 Trox Keep
    RK1 - Shanue - 218/30 Opi MA | RK2 - Redenf5 - 218/22 Trox Enf | RK2 - Jrollin - 214/25 Opi Shade
    TL 5
    RK2 - Memorial - 170/16 Opi Engi | RK2 - Maxisfix - 168/21 Opi Fixer E
    RK1 - Clento - 150/20 Soli Soldier | RK1 - Losodoc - 150/20 Soli Doctor
    RK2 - Loso - 150/20 Opi Advy | RK2 - Tachun - 150/13 Opi MP
    RK1 - Krakenz - 150/15 Trox Advy | RK1 - Loso - 150/13 Trox Advyoo.
    TL5 Fixer Information | GMT -08:00 West Coast Canada | Java AO Chat API | Dnet

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    Maxisfix,

    do you play your tl5 fixer war only, or bs too? wondering that i didnt see much fixers on bs. is the actual situation so bad for tl5 fixers?


    thx
    Vit

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    My fixer is mostly for wars, but since they dont happen much on rk2 atm I am not getting much time doing them.

    I do bs some times but it is mostly a joke, you don't need much skill and equipment to kill level 150 pvm'ers and bs also doesn't run very often because clan dominates omni here.

    The side with a fixer is usually the side that is going to win BS simply because gsf lets people cap points so much faster/easier then the other side (baring extreme differences in equipement/skill)

    Fixer's arn't to bad at tl5, but there are some professions that are superpowered compaired to us and that's where the problems come in, engi's/shades/mp's and maybe crats are a bit worse then fixers are at tl5. If we are a gank prof we can't do it because we don't have enough damage to actually gank anyone good. If we are supposed to wear down people we don't do it because we can't damage someone beyond there ability to repair or we die before we can.

    The reason why twinked fixers don't really stick around or seem happy with there fixer is because no matter how much work and effort we put into playing/equiping our character, people can roll something else and just slap on a few things and be out of our reach.

    I have top equipment for a 168 clan fixer, have been playing at tl5 twinked for one and a half years. Yet a enforcer who twinked 2 weeks ago can tank me for over 15min straight, alpha me if I stop moving for a second and if I do manage to land enough very lucky aimshots to get him down a little, he can outrun me and I am unable to root/snare him.
    Last edited by Maxisfix; Jul 16th, 2009 at 23:36:53.
    TL 7
    RK2 - Maxisolja - 220/24 Trox Soldier | RK2 - Blitztrick - 220/25 Soli Fixer E | RK2 - Krakenz - 220/21 Trox Keep
    RK1 - Shanue - 218/30 Opi MA | RK2 - Redenf5 - 218/22 Trox Enf | RK2 - Jrollin - 214/25 Opi Shade
    TL 5
    RK2 - Memorial - 170/16 Opi Engi | RK2 - Maxisfix - 168/21 Opi Fixer E
    RK1 - Clento - 150/20 Soli Soldier | RK1 - Losodoc - 150/20 Soli Doctor
    RK2 - Loso - 150/20 Opi Advy | RK2 - Tachun - 150/13 Opi MP
    RK1 - Krakenz - 150/15 Trox Advy | RK1 - Loso - 150/13 Trox Advyoo.
    TL5 Fixer Information | GMT -08:00 West Coast Canada | Java AO Chat API | Dnet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vitalis View Post
    Maxisfix,

    do you play your tl5 fixer war only, or bs too? wondering that i didnt see much fixers on bs. is the actual situation so bad for tl5 fixers?


    thx
    Vit
    I'd let him reply himself but ill do it first Maxi has done a good bit of BS, and he was good enough to be called a sploiter in my org even though I knew better lol.

    Tl5 fixer is good, but you better be damn good yourself. It is about a half a year learning curve to get your timing with damage, alphas, perks and heals down pact if I'm correct, and remembering Maxi when he sucked to where he is now I'd say you need about that long to almost master the prof at TL5

    Fixer is a reaction prof, you react to spur of the moment damage and drops in defense. If you have good timing you can be a great fixer. This is why most people can't play them well.

  16. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Gatester View Post
    I'd let him reply himself but ill do it first
    You failed
    TL 7
    RK2 - Maxisolja - 220/24 Trox Soldier | RK2 - Blitztrick - 220/25 Soli Fixer E | RK2 - Krakenz - 220/21 Trox Keep
    RK1 - Shanue - 218/30 Opi MA | RK2 - Redenf5 - 218/22 Trox Enf | RK2 - Jrollin - 214/25 Opi Shade
    TL 5
    RK2 - Memorial - 170/16 Opi Engi | RK2 - Maxisfix - 168/21 Opi Fixer E
    RK1 - Clento - 150/20 Soli Soldier | RK1 - Losodoc - 150/20 Soli Doctor
    RK2 - Loso - 150/20 Opi Advy | RK2 - Tachun - 150/13 Opi MP
    RK1 - Krakenz - 150/15 Trox Advy | RK1 - Loso - 150/13 Trox Advyoo.
    TL5 Fixer Information | GMT -08:00 West Coast Canada | Java AO Chat API | Dnet

  17. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxisfix View Post
    You failed
    Bastard ...I lagged/ a cat jumped in my lap/ a toddler pulled my connection out.

  18. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Gatester View Post
    Bastard ...I lagged/ a cat jumped in my lap/ a toddler pulled my connection out.
    Sure sure, ps im rolling a ranged advy, jepp looks sooo much better then hawk mk 5, tips plx?
    TL 7
    RK2 - Maxisolja - 220/24 Trox Soldier | RK2 - Blitztrick - 220/25 Soli Fixer E | RK2 - Krakenz - 220/21 Trox Keep
    RK1 - Shanue - 218/30 Opi MA | RK2 - Redenf5 - 218/22 Trox Enf | RK2 - Jrollin - 214/25 Opi Shade
    TL 5
    RK2 - Memorial - 170/16 Opi Engi | RK2 - Maxisfix - 168/21 Opi Fixer E
    RK1 - Clento - 150/20 Soli Soldier | RK1 - Losodoc - 150/20 Soli Doctor
    RK2 - Loso - 150/20 Opi Advy | RK2 - Tachun - 150/13 Opi MP
    RK1 - Krakenz - 150/15 Trox Advy | RK1 - Loso - 150/13 Trox Advyoo.
    TL5 Fixer Information | GMT -08:00 West Coast Canada | Java AO Chat API | Dnet

  19. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxisfix View Post
    Sure sure, ps im rolling a ranged advy, jepp looks sooo much better then hawk mk 5, tips plx?
    Opifex, damage add (onehander still main source of damage) and you can hit 640ish damage add for 30seconds on an opi adventurer so you can push some damage. No there isn't a good fling/burst wep for you to use. Peregrine is the same burst recharge as your FA, and CDR is a slow swap and damage isn't much better than onehander.

    Oh and you can go low health, if you use CSS instead of CC and get NR1 and NR buffing which puts you at about 1450 NR selfed. Otherwise maximize health as much as possible, even consider using a 250+ ofab body.

  20. #20
    3-4b Fixer setups are going to get owned by the AS nerf.

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