Friday with Means - February 27th, 2009

[bloodcult]

About the debuff bar:

I dont see any harm if you are able to see the debuffs you *yourself* put there, I mean when
you're fighting someone/something everyone would like a bar to see what debuffs they
cast on that person/mob. I can see how seeing all debuffs would be a little too much, but no harm
in seeing what you yourself have cast on the target. It's the same train of thought as having
an NCU window where you can see how long till your bufs run out and perk/action timers in chat
when you try and use something which is not available yet.

[Technogen]

Exploit Info

Yes this is fixed.

Also please don't post info about exploits on the forums.

[Trebie]

I don't see an issue with a debuff bar, aside from the fact that the screen itself is already fairly cluttered. However, this is a feature that was already put into other games, and just seems like getting it would be part of the games progression, imo.

On the overall subject of these friday updates though, im really hoping to see something on how the new engine is comin along.
*edit*
Maybe even a video to demonstrate some of the character movments in and out of combat, if that parts been completed enough to give a demonstration.
I mean, it has been like, years now since the last video. XD

[nijushio]

I agree it's the same train of thought but i would not drive it all the way. I don't have many casting profs but i always see when i land ubt or a dot in a fight. I don't really feel the need to know if it landed or not because i can see that already, it would just make it easier for me to see when it runs out or when the enemy got rid of it.

I think it would make it harder on defense side since people would see if you cleared a hostile nano and then they would just recast it on you again

[Coreunit]

Not sure if they have been asked yet..... but is there gonna be another full ipr put into the game and if so when? and also if there isnt then is there a way that the price of the reset point cost be reduced because 167 million credits is alot to spend on one reset point.

[NotDavidBowi]

Yes this is fixed.

Also please don't post info about exploits on the forums.

Agreed and sorry.. Didn't think they'd classify it as a serious exploit.

[Artyomis]

When I'll get nerfed?

[Filling]

Visible Display option for Hostile Nanos running on your target!

No to this

Might be useful in pvm, but part of the fun in pvp is not knowning absolutly everything and being able to adapt as you find out more about your target. If anything, PvP should require MORE thinking, not less.

Edit: A few people have mentioned that this is just to progress with other games, but AO is not "other games". I play AO because it is different, there are many more games with better graphics, economy, etc. but AO brings something different and making it more like other games will only encourage more people to leave.

[Klodovik]

No to this

Might be useful in pvm, but part of the fun in pvp is not knowning absolutly everything and being able to adapt as you find out more about your target. If anything, PvP should require MORE thinking, not less.

You say that only 'cos you, as a MA, don't rely that much on debuffs in your fight.

[Lupusceleri]

You say that only 'cos you, as a MA, don't rely that much on debuffs in your fight.

Hi Red Dusk, stuns, Incapacitate, AC debuffs, etc.

[IHaveHugeNick]

Why are people crying about this visual debuffs change? This clearly SHOULD have been ingame from the very beggining. Some debuffs already have visual animations.

And yes, it will put you at severe disadvantage when you are debuffed, boohoo. Well guess what - you should be at disadvantage.

Why not remove visuals of enemy HP bars too, its such a striking unfairness when people can see you are low on HP, seriously!

[Technogen]

Why are people crying about this visual debuffs change? This clearly SHOULD have been ingame from the very beggining. Some debuffs already have visual animations.

And yes, it will put you at severe disadvantage when you are debuffed, boohoo. Well guess what - you should be at disadvantage.

Why not remove visuals of enemy HP bars too, its such a striking unfairness when people can see you are low on HP, seriously!

BUT I MIGHT DIE1!!!!! *shrug*

[Vlain]

For example I didn't fully realize how much people were affected by the spammers in game

seriously? you didn't know? ...wow

glad you're looking into it now, but... wow

[shadowgod]

seriously? you didn't know? ...wow

glad you're looking into it now, but... wow

i dont see how this can be surprising..

i think i might of gotten one, maybe two spam tells about such in all the years i've played ao.

[IHaveHugeNick]

Perhaps its because people AREN'T in fact affect by spammers that much, void few forum inviduals that have nothing better to do then to keep beating the doomsday drums about it.

I find the player-run "solutions to credit-spam" much more spammy and annoying then the credit selling spamers themselves, and i'm know i'm not the only one, but you cant say that here without being jumped by pitchfork folk calling you a credit seller, lol.

I even had a tell from credit seller last night, which is something new as i only saw them posting on open channels so far, and guess what, i just ignored it and moved along. Imagine that.

And before you say it isnt possible, i have photos and fraps and screenshots of me not paying attention to tell from credit seller, honest to god.

[IHaveHugeNick]

And just to add, using technological solutions (IP bans, changes to account creation, whatever else you can come up with) are of course perfectly fine and welcome, but i think it would be horrible idea if you were to move larg part of customer service manpower to the credit seller witchhunt, it already takes far beyond acceptable time to get a simple petition or email answered, even more waiting is last thing we need.

[Vlain]

i dont see how this can be surprising..

i think i might of gotten one, maybe two spam tells about such in all the years i've played ao.

guess you must not hang around borealis or listen to shopping channels much then, because there was a period of several months where the first thing i had to do each and every single time i logged on was block 1-3 spammer names like hhhgggasdf

...but if it didn't affect either you or IHHN, i guess it must not be a real issue, cuz obviously there's no way an issue could be important until after the 2 of you acknowledge it

[Klodovik]

Hi Red Dusk, stuns, Incapacitate, AC debuffs, etc.

don't rely that much on debuffs

Compared to us, true debuffers.

[shadowgod]

guess you must not hang around borealis or listen to shopping channels much then, because there was a period of several months where the first thing i had to do each and every single time i logged on was block 1-3 spammer names like hhhgggasdf

...but if it didn't affect either you or IHHN, i guess it must not be a real issue, cuz obviously there's no way an issue could be important until after the 2 of you acknowledge it

all public "chats" are subject to idiots and spam. thus i've always ignored them.

and, especially as an mp, i refuse to idle in populated areas. let alone ommer induced lag fests like bor.

[Vlain]

all public "chats" are subject to idiots and spam. thus i've always ignored them.

and, especially as an mp, i refuse to idle in populated areas. let alone ommer induced lag fests like bor.

thank you for proving my point

lawlz...here's you: I ignore every chat channel that has spammers on it, and I don't get credit spam, so it must not be a real problem...

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