TL 5 eoe twinkage

[Maxisolja]

bought the ring and miy's armor

still need some super rare xan NCU's (ql 232 or 233 Base NCU's) and Halloween phats

[Maxisolja]

Update on my ql 192 eoe progress

Managed to get my Lya Sleeves/Patches from Halloween making this all possible

Had one of the moments of never trust what someone says in a guide thing, I was following AO-Universes break down of how to make Base NCU's and when I finally caved in and bought some close to what I needed, I found out that you can actually set the ql of them as opposed to the static QL increases that AO-Universe stated, making my cheap ncu's able to all make ql 250's as soon as I get the memory cells, unless tradeskill kit is lying to me also. (confirmation please!)

The new setup I have planned

Only items I don't have for it are the Memory Cells for the NCU's, still need 4 str/2 sense/3 agility cells

Before I retwink to get the EOE on I am also going to look into the possibility of doing special edition helmet and ql 225 Hawk.

[McKnuckleSamwich]

Update on my ql 192 eoe progress

Managed to get my Lya Sleeves/Patches from Halloween making this all possible

Had one of the moments of never trust what someone says in a guide thing, I was following AO-Universes break down of how to make Base NCU's and when I finally caved in and bought some close to what I needed, I found out that you can actually set the ql of them as opposed to the static QL increases that AO-Universe stated, making my cheap ncu's able to all make ql 250's as soon as I get the memory cells, unless tradeskill kit is lying to me also. (confirmation please!)

The new setup I have planned

Only items I don't have for it are the Memory Cells for the NCU's, still need 4 str/2 sense/3 agility cells

Before I retwink to get the EOE on I am also going to look into the possibility of doing special edition helmet and ql 225 Hawk.

BUD. I'd love to help you out.

I have several base cells (like, agi, strength, etc, that are NOT inthe NCU's yet.)

I ALSO have 2X QL 250-251 strength/stam NCU's. I have 4, which I made for twinking stam, but two needed a second cell to bump the QL.

I have a mega question: how do you set the QL?

I want to build a 5th stam+strength cell to complete the set, but I haven't been able to find a QL 233/232 or a QL 241-242 base NCU.

*** youre able to borrow the 2x strength+stam ones if you need them. They are QL 250 and 251 which is the lowest QL's which offer the 4 modifier, QL 250> is ony 3.

The reqs on them are 750 strength+stam, and 1350-1357 Comp lit.

/tell noobasknight for access.

[Maxisolja]

According to tradeskill kit it totally goes off your Tradeskills now, I could have built a ql 237 base into a 265 ncu with a traderskiller or into a ql 241 ncu on my soldier with tradeskill buffs.

Maybe they changed it recently or the tradeskill kit is lying.

Only note I have to make if you give me Memory Cells, I want them to keep, if I ever need to redo this again I want to have everything onhand.

Still need 2 agility/2 sense/2 strength

I am trying to build a exact ql NCU atm, but its turning out to be really hard because they require so many different tradeskills and I can't use lower level toons because they wont reach the complit to make

[McKnuckleSamwich]

have you got any extra low QL base NCU's?

I was under the impression that the LOWEST QL gain was 8 at any QL less than 291, at QL 291 the QL jumps a minimum of 9 to 300.

So, I used base NCU's of QL 242, 243, 234 and 235

242+8=250
243+8=251
234+8+8=250
345+8+8=251

which is what I have... but I got those made with (what I thought) was the minimum trade skills necessary for the combine, WHICH bumped the QL 8 points on each combine.

As for agi+sense+strength, I'll see what I've got.

[Maxisolja]

Looks like it doesn't work like that anymore

I found the perfect toon for making ql 250 ncu's, I now have 1 ql 250 NCU with Agility/Sense/Strength

Started with a ql 226, first cluster made it 233 or something, second cluster made it around 237, then the last cluster I modified a tl5 trader to add the last cluster at the right time to make a ql 250.

So being able to set the ql of the NCU's is verified, needs a very specific toon to actually be able to pick the ql you want to set though.

Edit:
Managed to salvage a NCU that I almost overleveled, I now have two ql 250 Agility/Sense/Strength NCU's

[Maxisolja]

Quick look at 225 Hawk, im 29 FA off so it is probably doable with some other stuff

Thats with ql 240 FA/Str contract, 300 Large HQ, 200 Ransacking tower
Str/Stam buffs/Expertise/Related perks/All research including the bonus 30 we just got

Still need to look into Special Edition Helmet, but that will have to wait for a few days.

[Wakizaka]

A second Phoenix or waiting for Dark Kin perk changes and using Strength mems. Iirc it was +31 Full Auto from 10 perks in DK so maybe.

[Ciex]

Still need 2 agility/2 sense/2 strength

Here, some of your problems solved.

[Suggester]

http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=274696&ql=100 instead of the Back
http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=225382&ql=175 neck and Right Shoulder
http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=225769&ql=270 for the Wen Wen or whatever
use a higher waist imp for fa because living is getting easy in and problem is solved

[Maxisolja]

A second Phoenix or waiting for Dark Kin perk changes and using Strength mems. Iirc it was +31 Full Auto from 10 perks in DK so maybe.

Phoenix is 2 handed, I only have hawk in there to easily show what I am trying to get on, it would go in the other hand anyways.

Here, some of your problems solved.

I am pretty sure getting clan a tl7 site for a day would be much easier then farming 2300 tokens again

http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=274696&ql=100 instead of the Back
http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=225382&ql=175 neck and Right Shoulder
http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=225769&ql=270 for the Wen Wen or whatever
use a higher waist imp for fa because living is getting easy in and problem is solved

That will do it.

[Maxisolja]

I think I screwed up my calc's last night, it was showing 1390 FA skill in the emulator and now I can only get it to 1370 with that new stuff even.

[Josephina]

Adding up the stuff in your setup:

Ip in full auto: 495

Full auto 60% strength, 40% stamina
165 opifex:
464 strength
480 stamina

From the setup you linked:
+585 full auto
+103 strength
+136 stamina

From LE research:
+30 fullauto
+5stamina

From perks + AI city:
Opi secondary 8, Mountaineer 2, Enhance DNA 8, freak strength 1:
+70 strength
+70 stamina

From buffs:
expertises + Behe + prod strength:
+20 full auto
+59 strength
+39 stamina

Final tally before towers:
495 + 585 + 30 + 20 + 0.25*[0.6*(464+103+0+70+59) + 0.4*(480+136+5+70+39)]
= 1130 + 0.25*[0.6*696+0.4*730]
= 1130 + 0.25*709.6
= 1130 + 177.4
= 1308

Providing that I did not make a mistake: I don't think you can make up the difference without high ql contracts+towers.


edit for extras:
Weapon Guide: +5 full auto
ql200 ransacking: +30
ql240 ransacking contract: +29
ql240 strength contract: +15 => 0.25*0.6*15 = 1.8 full auto
=> +65.8

New total: 1130 + 177.4 + 65.8 = 1373.2

[Quieter007]

It's ridicolous that loads of profession can get 250+ weapons designed around their toolset on at tl5, while we still have to push hard and not even get a 225 hawk mk5/6 on. <3 being a lovechild .

[Solidstriker]

Just roll a ranged advy and be done with it, Umed!

[Quieter007]

Just roll a ranged advy and be done with it, Umed!

Deleted it long time ago, was boring as hell

Anyway I think with Cama Peal of the left brain in neck+right shoulder + higher ql ransack (230) you can get another 10 points of Full auto.
If FC would finally add a full auto buff to Spray with Lead of about 30 it would be possible with your extreme twinking. Anything more then 30 to 50 would make it possible for lower equipped toons/other breeds too (nanomage ftw?).

So FC, extend FA buffage to other SMG buffs !

[Maxisolja]

Ding irl 20 today!, well Friday, so technically yesterday now

spending the week away, when I get back home ill look at ****, update this thread and make my new AO Login Program public.

[Maxisolja]

Update on the 192 eoe progress, I have not been playing much lately due to irl and my tl7 fixer but put some more work into this today.

No need to reset skills for complit!!!, with a bit under half ip into complit I can hit the magic 1351 mark with what I currently have (can hit 1353)

Complit Setup
Extras:
240 Intel Contract, 300 HQ, 300 Grid House
140 Complit Tutoring Device
Comp Attributes, Complit Expertise, NS, Tutoring Expertise, ICRT

Don't have half the items for that yet.

EoE Setup
Extras:
240 Sense, Str, Agility, Treatment Contracts, 300 Large HQ (total of 960 in contracts)
Comp Attributes, Clinic, Treatment Expertise, ES, FG, Behe, Prod Str, SFA, ICRT, NS

Only things I need for this setup is Agility and 2xSense Memory Cells (and the contracts ofc)

[Suggester]

So any process have yo finished or where are you stucked?

[Maxisolja]

So any process have yo finished or where are you stucked?

Pretty much stopped for multiple reasons.

Have final exams, moving, working on my tl7 fixer (which is way more fun then tl5), and the complit setup is a bitch to get