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Thread: Defensive boost for NTs.

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    Defensive boost for NTs.

    Overall I can say NT's are strong offensively, even if they rely mostly on a single action ie no specs or regular hits.

    So for a defensive boost suggestion for a prof I feel is unique and handicapped by that same aspect is:

    Nano Crystal (Damage Fluctuator)

    Attack time 5 sec
    Recharge time 2 sec

    On use the target will have their damage type changed, after 6 seconds the damage type changes again, and repeats for maybe 5 damage types. Yes it is very similar to the perk effect Chaotic Modulation that is "un"used by agents but this nano affects your target. It would have a 1minute lock on it preventing you from spamming it and the attack and recharge times are short so ou can continue fighting the only way you can

    I think a nano like this would be a major boost to NT's against regular hits, which is ridiculous for any prof to die from at tl7, and when soloing. You have no healing, your offense and defensive are locked together so increasing the effectiveness of your absorbs in this manner seems like a great, non OP addition.

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    Needs some work but somehow i liked it.
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  3. #3
    now if we could just cast absorbs while doing some dmg oO hehe
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  4. #4

    Smile

    would be nice

    but doubt any would use it in pvp
    defences and Dmg all comes from casting
    thats another couple of sec u lose while in NBG or NS

    still love the idea for pvm
    or what about just 6sec refreshing absobs ? would have same effect
    not that OP
    and a team version <3 so we actualy get put into a team xd



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  5. #5
    NT's should get some kind of 20 second 100% reflect nano that disables doubles and triples or something.
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  6. #6
    o hell yeah!!

    I could go for that idea instead, self refreshing absorbs ftw! 6-8 seconds seems about right seeing as how fast our fights usually are.
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    Enjey 60/6 NM Eng (high maintenance OP'ness)
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    Somethiing 200 Atrox Sold (potential x1k...not nearly enough "give a f*ck")
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    As soon as mp's get double AS tigress.

    and LOL at NT's having a crappy defense.
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    is it just me, or do more NON NT's troll our forums than any other profession?! Oo

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    Giit 200/30 NM NT(THE most dangerous, and bitchy thing I ever created)
    Sixunder 158/21 NM Tra (158+SMG=Atomic bomb? Feather pillow? meh, depends on what mood she's in oO)
    Eightup 158/21 Opi Fix (perfect, maxed twink, definitive "FUN")
    Xerrrox 17X Opi Fix (GA4 fr00b...buff prostitute...reason to log in)
    Enjey 60/6 NM Eng (high maintenance OP'ness)
    Nanimated New NM Agent (no patience for it...sigh)
    Somethiing 200 Atrox Sold (potential x1k...not nearly enough "give a f*ck")
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    It's not the fact that I hate NT's, it's the fact that the NT toolset is already somewhat overpowered and doesn't need any stronger. Want to make a suggestion, help a profession that is struggling abit. Like...hmmm...fixers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyingengi View Post
    It's not the fact that I hate NT's, it's the fact that the NT toolset is already somewhat overpowered and doesn't need any stronger. Want to make a suggestion, help a profession that is struggling abit. Like...hmmm...fixers?
    Fixers are fine, it's the people that play them that are broken
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    Renamed (jeycihn) 220/30(so sexy, so Borealis...I miss it the most...still melee <3 thnx for all your help Scum!
    Giit 200/30 NM NT(THE most dangerous, and bitchy thing I ever created)
    Sixunder 158/21 NM Tra (158+SMG=Atomic bomb? Feather pillow? meh, depends on what mood she's in oO)
    Eightup 158/21 Opi Fix (perfect, maxed twink, definitive "FUN")
    Xerrrox 17X Opi Fix (GA4 fr00b...buff prostitute...reason to log in)
    Enjey 60/6 NM Eng (high maintenance OP'ness)
    Nanimated New NM Agent (no patience for it...sigh)
    Somethiing 200 Atrox Sold (potential x1k...not nearly enough "give a f*ck")
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedWatr View Post
    Fixers are fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koizumi View Post
    lmao
    fail...it's the second part that's funny
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    Renamed (jeycihn) 220/30(so sexy, so Borealis...I miss it the most...still melee <3 thnx for all your help Scum!
    Giit 200/30 NM NT(THE most dangerous, and bitchy thing I ever created)
    Sixunder 158/21 NM Tra (158+SMG=Atomic bomb? Feather pillow? meh, depends on what mood she's in oO)
    Eightup 158/21 Opi Fix (perfect, maxed twink, definitive "FUN")
    Xerrrox 17X Opi Fix (GA4 fr00b...buff prostitute...reason to log in)
    Enjey 60/6 NM Eng (high maintenance OP'ness)
    Nanimated New NM Agent (no patience for it...sigh)
    Somethiing 200 Atrox Sold (potential x1k...not nearly enough "give a f*ck")
    P A R A D I S E ~&~ P A R A S I T E ~&~ B R O K E N ~&~ CCI ~&~ NOTHING PERSONAL

  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by K1nkstaah View Post
    NT's should get some kind of 20 second 100% reflect nano that disables doubles and triples or something.
    Sounds good. But the lock shouldn't last a whole 30 minutes.
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  14. #14
    i like the idea, bump
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  15. #15
    Auto refreshing absorbs would cause problems im sure, probly interfere with casting in some way. This is less something to use when you know you are going to kill someone and more something you use when you don't think you can take someone out just yet.

    For instance some prof uses their absorb booster or cocoon, cast this on em to give you more time to survive it or make it easier to get some distance (runspeed debuff from low health sucks).

    Also think pvp support, that MA becomes much less effective on someone when their crits are doing several damage types against absorbs.

    Definately, absolutely, more pvm related though. And if you think NT's are strong defensively well sure, if you let them build that defense up Otherwise they have a very hard time being defensive and offensive at the same time like most profs.

  16. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by gatester View Post
    ) Otherwise they have a very hard time being defensive and offensive at the same time like most profs.
    In fact, because of mechanics we cannot, we for the most part, only have access to one part of our toolset at a time. Its one of the things that we are pushing AO to look at. Using one part of a toolset doesn't mean you should be locked out of another.

    And when your only source of both is nano, and there is a program that can shut us out of its use, the problem compounds itself.
    Last edited by Steveo; Feb 13th, 2009 at 11:28:21.
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    Just make it 10 sec execution time (no caps) with 0,01 recharge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eskarin View Post
    Just make it 10 sec execution time (no caps) with 0,01 recharge.
    Or make it insta cast with 10sec recharge.
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  19. #19
    Well in pvp NTs have pretty good defence to survive a long as it takes to kill the opponent (unless it's a doc ^^), but sure could use a boost for pvm. Fighting a mob with massive hp that hits like a fly will still get an NT killed due to 0 healing and lockouts or drawbacks on ANY kind of defence we have. Self refreshing absorbs would be really nice, at least once every 20 seconds or so, won't be OP in pvp since capped hit rips through them. Then we wouldn't have to waste precious seconds under NS2 recasting absorb.
    Last edited by Calamite; Feb 13th, 2009 at 01:34:42.
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  20. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Calamite View Post
    Well in pvp NTs have pretty good defence to survive a long as it takes to kill the opponent (unless it's a doc ^^), but sure could use a boost for pvm.
    Yes...but unless they start making pvm only nanos, any improvment in pvm will always affect pvp. Unfortunately, FC doesn't understand that and we get some of the OP nanos that are out there ^^ I'm all for giving NT's a little more defense pvm wise, but not if it affects pvp.
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