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    MA and chain stuns question

    MA used to be Masters of stuns (before Crat Stole it )
    my question:
    how do u know the stun worked(if the target already stunned earlier? :

    i looking at a setup with 5 stuns:
    4 short lock
    2 Insta
    2 1sec delay

    the question :
    if i stunned the other guy with brawl and fired a new stun while the other guy is stunned , how do i know if the new stun worked or should i hit the other one?
    to make the stuns useful i need to chain them (one after the other Not at the same time)

    cold us any of u PVP gurus advices (even tho u play other toons now )

  2. #2
    First u should know whats stuns a MA have


    1 MA attack , u need QL 250+ to be efficient

    3 perks >> 2 from brawler line

    Brawl >> well ... stun pro is too low :S


    How do u think u can have 5 stuns ???
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  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Number317 View Post
    First u should know whats stuns a MA have


    1 MA attack , u need QL 250+ to be efficient

    3 perks >> 2 from brawler line

    Brawl >> well ... stun pro is too low :S


    How do u think u can have 5 stuns ???
    am tl5 and in the setup am thining about i have 5:

    1 MA attack
    Tottw book attack
    2 perks (brawler and kung-fo)
    and brawl

    they have have a chance , that's y i want to know when to stun (when the stun have landed and i don't need to waste anothere chance)

    u forgot tottw book , u shold have 6

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Number317 View Post
    1 MA attack , u need QL 250+ to be efficient
    If you mean bbcs, then in this case QL's of it barely matter.
    Its not like the higher ql the higher chance to land it...
    Only one thing that changes in bbcs is the init nerf(and dmg, but thats barely anything, and also is halved) , but that one stops @ ql 200 of it, and is not growing further.

    Quote Originally Posted by buka View Post
    1 MA attack
    Tottw book attack
    All stunning special ma attacks lock MA(not counting uwos, the chance to land a stun is once in a year)...same as the totw ma special...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quitter123 View Post
    How about this new nano for enfs, it takes random amount of nanoskills and nano to cast, when landed on random opponent it debuffs random weaponskill by random amount for an unspecified length of time.

  5. #5
    upon a wave of summer also has a chance of stunning, however its quite low. and you will need it if you're going to pvp.

    As to your question.. Brawl stun doesnt look the same as our perk stuns. brawl stun kind of makes it look like your target is dizzy in a weird way, while our perk stuns and 100% attack stun puts some white stuff around your target and it will be impossible for you NOT to see if it landed or not. so this should not be a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by borriss View Post
    upon a wave of summer also has a chance of stunning, however its quite low. and you will need it if you're going to pvp.
    Oh sh*t, low hp, lets slow him down with uwos and heal around the corner
    <uses uwos>^@%&^*5@$!#$ recharge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quitter123 View Post
    How about this new nano for enfs, it takes random amount of nanoskills and nano to cast, when landed on random opponent it debuffs random weaponskill by random amount for an unspecified length of time.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Koizumi View Post
    Oh sh*t, low hp, lets slow him down with uwos and heal around the corner
    <uses uwos>^@%&^*5@$!#$ recharge
    what the fewk?
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  8. #8
    What i mean is that, according to the Murphy's laws, the stun will fire EXACTLY 0.0001 seconds before you wanted to run a heal...
    I dont have to mention that this heal would save your life, and that your keyboard is currently flying towards the wall with speed of 30km/h
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    Deadalus "Yumeno" Proxy - 220/30/70 Former stunwhore
    One "Namichan" Piece - 220/30/68 Drainwhore
    Aj Ar "Spawara" Triplenab - 220/24/45 Nuke-Welder
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quitter123 View Post
    How about this new nano for enfs, it takes random amount of nanoskills and nano to cast, when landed on random opponent it debuffs random weaponskill by random amount for an unspecified length of time.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Koizumi View Post
    What i mean is that, according to the Murphy's laws, the stun will fire EXACTLY 0.0001 seconds before you wanted to run a heal...
    I dont have to mention that this heal would save your life, and that your keyboard is currently flying towards the wall with speed of 30km/h
    I personally pount at my keyboard
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  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Koizumi View Post
    What i mean is that, according to the Murphy's laws, the stun will fire EXACTLY 0.0001 seconds before you wanted to run a heal...
    I dont have to mention that this heal would save your life, and that your keyboard is currently flying towards the wall with speed of 30km/h
    lewl

    Any way, our Stuns ( Perks+MA attacks ) have a looooooooooooong recharge and a looooooooooooooooooong landing time (enough time for an NT to run NS ... enough time to cocoon ... ) wich another evidence that we are outdate in pvp envirenment , and not all MA attack/perks check Duck, so u need to have as crazy as possible AR to land them on poeple !

    They give stunz to crat in one day ! give us something bettaaa

    NB : Make the 17.9 a patch for MA luve only come on FC !!! don't ignore me !!!
    Mutsu317 Lvl 220 MA Opi
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    Wish list : new Shen +DD "MA only", Proc stun, 10 Attack blockers and go hell heals !

  11. #11
    Why wouldn't FC ignore you, I did months ago. :/
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  12. #12
    it dont look like :P



    And for neccoz only, as ure an OP, new patch for ya fixing old MA bugs like :

    Fixing heal recharge, 20s rechange heal sound fair ( MP have 30s on his SS so dont cry)

    3 extra second on all ure perks landing time

    -500 AAO/AAD hostil nano, to fix ure AR/defense (many fixers petitioned that ure perking them while they use DOF+limber)

    as u have 150% critical setup, nerfing critical chance on pvp from 1/2 to 1/4 to fix chain critic in duals


    and wait for more and more next patchs :P








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    Last edited by Number317; Mar 15th, 2008 at 05:05:30.
    Mutsu317 Lvl 220 MA Opi
    WIld317
    In progress pew pew advy soli
    Wish list : new Shen +DD "MA only", Proc stun, 10 Attack blockers and go hell heals !

  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Number317 View Post
    as u have 150% critical setup, nerfing critical chance on pvp from 1/2 to 1/4 to fix chain critic in duals
    MAs never had their Crit Chance nerfed in PvP, they are the only prof to maintain their actual crit %.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neccoz View Post
    Why wouldn't FC ignore you, I did months ago. :/
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  15. #15
    Upon wave of summer has a change to stun as well as BBSC
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  16. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Booxie View Post
    Upon wave of summer has a change to stun as well as BBSC
    BBCS*
    And the chance to stun is the same as the chance to win BoC within 100ish peeps raidforce for 20 points..

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    Beat it troll, neither you got anything smart to say, nor you got anything to do here.
    Last edited by Koizumi; Mar 17th, 2008 at 07:52:36.
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    One "Namichan" Piece - 220/30/68 Drainwhore
    Aj Ar "Spawara" Triplenab - 220/24/45 Nuke-Welder
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quitter123 View Post
    How about this new nano for enfs, it takes random amount of nanoskills and nano to cast, when landed on random opponent it debuffs random weaponskill by random amount for an unspecified length of time.

  17. #17
    It's 5% i think ;P But always worth a shot.

    BBCS thanks

    Oh by the way at 2k brawl does the stun last 5 or 6 sec or was I in a daze listening to org chat and the stun is always 3 sec?
    Last edited by Booxie; Mar 20th, 2008 at 03:37:48.
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  18. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Booxie View Post
    It's 5% i think ;P But always worth a shot.

    BBCS thanks

    Oh by the way at 2k brawl does the stun last 5 or 6 sec or was I in a daze listening to org chat and the stun is always 3 sec?
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