Fixed Grafts.

[Loucretia]

It's a stupid ql<20 nano, of course it should fail to land on.......etc

However, it isnt a ql20 Nano, its a graft.

Sadly, I dont have a copy of the "AO Bible Of Item Definitions (ABOID)" in which I can look up these grafts and see the definitive FC answer, which could be "These Grafts are intended to work this way" or could be "These grafts are bugged".


Unfortunately the ABOID is either sitting in FC's offices, or more likely was carted off by a prior Game Director. So the current Game Director can either look these up and find out, or make his own mind up..... if he hasnt already.

[Syyceria]

However, it isnt a ql20 Nano, its a graft.

It's a QL20 nano on a graft.

And ever heard of email, Loul?

[Loucretia]

It's a QL20 nano on a graft.

And ever heard of email, Loul?

Let me clarify....... there is one "bug" related to these grafts as FC have already stated. However, that these grafts root people isnt it.... ok?

[Syyceria]

Let me clarify....... there is one "bug" related to these grafts as FC have already stated. However, that these grafts root people isnt it.... ok?

There is *at least* one bug with those grafts, and i'm not allowed to discuss your question with you. Ask Funcom

'nuff said.

[Mekh]

Roots are a unique ability of a few selected classes, who's only chance of survival are keeping above lovechilds on distance. Those grafts just pervert that idea and turn that ability into a huge disadvantage.

I would agree with you, if they had the same recharge... but they don't.

[Syyceria]

I would agree with you, if they had the same recharge... but they don't.

So what? I'm pretty sure that i don't have to use a 100% certain to land root more than once every 7 minutes, and in the city pvp-environment for example where you might be heavily outnumbered you get hit with a bunch of those roots within 30 seconds.

It's the same lame argument as 'omni-SBloit-root isn't overpowered, as it has a 4h recharge'...

[Mekh]

So what? I'm pretty sure that i don't have to use a 100% certain to land root more than once every 7 minutes, and in the city pvp-environment for example where you might be heavily outnumbered you get hit with a bunch of those roots within 30 seconds.

It's the same lame argument as 'omni-SBloit-root isn't overpowered, as it has a 4h recharge'...

Not exactly the same I dare say, as everyone can use the grafts, which ain't the case for Omni SB.

[Syyceria]

Not exactly the same I dare say, as everyone can use the grafts, which ain't the case for Omni SB.

Even if everyone could use the Omni SB, it's still overpowered regardless of it's recharge time. And roots should be available to those few classes who have this as one of their few advantages in the first place, and not given to the public in a way more powerful version. It's silly that i'm forced to use a lowbie ql NT-root regulary...

[Mekh]

Even if everyone could use the Omni SB, it's still overpowered regardless of it's recharge time. And roots should be available to those few classes who have this as one of their few advantages in the first place, and not given to the public in a way more powerful version. It's silly that i'm forced to use a lowbie ql NT-root regulary...

Yet, you can use it and if it runs out or fails you still have your ordinary roots.


Also...I'm sure you'll disagree here, but as I see it you are not using a NT root, but a graft.

FC may have chosen to use the NT root indirectly through the graft in order to save making a new entry in the DB or whatever, which is not exactly an uncommon way for FC to achieve various effects in the game...

Like the Leets they use for making earthquakes and whatever... ofc you can be right and it's a bug, but I don't think and hope so...

If I did not have the option on my keeper to sometimes use a graft on an opponent, I would spent 80% of my time on BS looking at "Out of range" messages when attacking awake targets that starts kiting, and I'm pretty sure every other melee class will agree to that. I can't think of a single situation, where I have noticed that problem with my Doc, as long as my opponents looked to be within reasonable range.

Synch issues may be the cause, and so on, but it's a fact it's a problem and highly unlikely to be "fixed".

[crattey]

I'm a crat, I have regular roots and I still love the root grafts. It's the only thing I can use to get a head start when a mongo raging trox is running at me and all my perks are down. Regular roots are far more unreliable and require you to stand still.

So in short; grafts are already fixed

[Loucretia]

There is *at least* one bug with those grafts, and i'm not allowed to discuss your question with you. Ask Funcom

'nuff said.

Actually my only question was "ok?" I am aware of what the grafts do, and wasnt asking any question about it.

[Syyceria]

Actually my only question was "ok?" I am aware of what the grafts do, and wasnt asking any question about it.

I'm afraid that i'm not allowed to answer with 'No, not ok'.

[Lumifly]

They aren't checking NR only direct resistances, despite casting nanos that are meant to. Broken. Please, fix it.

What makes you think this is broken? I've always viewed it as exactly what was desired and see absolutely no reason for it to be any different - beyond giving ranged an even greater advantage over melee, of course.

They interupt nanocasts. Unintended. Please, fix it. (this is not the target recieves recharge bug, that was fixed already, sort of).

You like fixing old bugs, here are 2 perfect ones.

/flame shield on.

Definitely needs to be fixed.

Sycceria - roots aren't "unique abilities." They are just nanos that your profession uses - and can use much more effectively on a whole. 2 roots every 5 minutes vs your root spam - on average, you're still on the upside. Grafts exist for a reason - whether you disagree with it or not is a different matter.

[Swordbreaker]

What makes you think this is broken? I've always viewed it as exactly what was desired and see absolutely no reason for it to be any different - beyond giving ranged an even greater advantage over melee, of course.

And giving the pets Nanofox so much pheers the chance to actually get close enough to swipe at the target instead of running in the wall(s)/getting kited!!11! Actually, it gives melee guys a chance to hit the ranged guys, too, if they manage to root them close enough to themselves. Everyone benefits from the grafts, even rooters.

But! I say this is ACTUALLY yet another part of Nanofox's personal crusade to nerf all pet users into oblivion! THere's a long long list of nerf demands by him which would lower the desirability of being a pet user in a PvP environment!

[Nanofox1]

Well done bringing your hate/dislike of Nts, or possibly just me into this thread, spouting stuff from a completely unrelated thread. Gives real strength to anything you say.

[Swordbreaker]

I don't dislike NTs. The other guess was correct. You're leaving a trail of "nerf everyone now that NTs are stronger!!!" threads all across the board, what reason is there to like you? ;p

And what I said was not completely unrelated to this thread - the grafts ARE useful for pet profs. Very, very much so. Just like they're useful for everyone. So, removing them would nerf the said pet profs again, right after your sneak nerf!

I bet if I dug a little deeper I'd find more "nerf everyone but NTs!" threads by you!

[Nanofox1]

Dig deeper, a few threads have NTs as point of focus, rest just trolls derailing original thread topic and twisting it into a NT hate thread. Much like the pet/conceal one, zero to do with NTs, yet its all the blind and nublike can post.

[Loucretia]

Dig deeper, a few threads have NTs as point of focus, rest just trolls derailing original thread topic and twisting it into a NT hate thread. Much like the pet/conceal one, zero to do with NTs, yet its all the blind and nublike can post.

Seeing as NTs benefit more than anyone from borked sneak, complaining about other borked sneak mechanics as an NT is pretty hypocritical.

[Nanofox1]

Seeing as NTs benefit more than anyone from borked sneak

No we don't...

And that has nothing to do with this topic.

[Klodovik]

No we don't...

Yes you do.