Make Harmonize Body & Mind useable with weapons?

**Ciggie** · Aug 18th, 2007, 05:22:39

Please post your answer and reasoning, running for 1 week then the result will be added to wishlist

**Wingz** · Aug 18th, 2007, 08:29:37

No.
If you unlock the Perk for using it while wielding weaopons, everyone would use it.

**Culgan** · Aug 18th, 2007, 12:23:46

hmmm.. make it MA only then? btw, that perk ruins my tactics vs fixers >.<

**dododo2** · Aug 18th, 2007, 16:35:00

Originally Posted by Wingz

No.
If you unlock the Perk for using it while wielding weaopons, everyone would use it.

Good point.

Tbh I overlooked that

Its a pain not being able to use it with bow etc equipped, but then again, its better than everyone using it

So, unfortunately, I guess we are better off leaving it as is.

**IHaveHugeNick** · Aug 18th, 2007, 16:40:14

Yes please, my MA *cough* would love that.

**Gagge** · Aug 18th, 2007, 19:12:08

Would save us alot of trouble for sure.
Dont know if any of the other ptofessions would use it tho'
Shades perhaps.

but yeah, its a ood idea

damnim drunk

**TimmyTurtle** · Aug 18th, 2007, 20:08:12

No. The reason we use it is because we don't have to unequip anything that we need wrangles or buffs to get on or equip something that takes a very long time to equip. By removing that lock and making it usable with weapons equiped would simply allow everyone to use it without any effect to them. Sure they would lose perks in other lines but how many professions would that actually hurt? I can only think of a couple that don't have the 5 points to sacrifice else where, especially if all they do anymore is PvP. The only way that I would be for this change is if the heal were redone to heal based off of a skill, say martial arts or dimach.

**Nimkin** · Aug 18th, 2007, 21:02:41

Originally Posted by Proshade

Would save us alot of trouble for sure.
Dont know if any of the other ptofessions would use it tho'
Shades perhaps.

Alot of PvP'ers wouldn't mind spending 5 perks for 1.5k-3.3k perk heal

**Xyphos** · Aug 18th, 2007, 21:13:15

I admit, it is indeed a very nice heal perk; but I think it should remain as-is or else everyone would use it.
as for the idea of scaling with a skill, that's what Red Dawn is for; don't need another one like that imo.

however, imo, the only way such a change should occur is if there was a to-use requirement of Martial Arts >= 1000ish

That'll limit it's use to those who actually do use Martial Arts.

**Louderer789** · Aug 18th, 2007, 21:27:54

Pffff. The addition of some useful generic healperks that don't require you to be a TL7 Solitus would be a welcome change. if you think the already powerful profs like adv, fixer, keeper etc have tons of perks to spare you are wrong, but a healperk would be of great use to profs like engi, trader, crat, NT who generally have sh*t perks and little healing.

**srompu** · Aug 19th, 2007, 03:32:15

I'd use it in a second.

**Koizumi** · Aug 19th, 2007, 23:09:30

Originally Posted by bockrocker

Pffff. The addition of some useful generic healperks that don't require you to be a TL7 Solitus would be a welcome change. if you think the already powerful profs like adv, fixer, keeper etc have tons of perks to spare you are wrong, but a healperk would be of great use to profs like engi, trader, crat, NT who generally have sh*t perks and little healing.

Engis got blockers, traders got drains, crats got stuns and nt's got 1buttonkill..
Why would THEY need more heals? What do we MA's have ? Broken as intended evades?
I would say fists || bow for HB&M..

**Spart** · Aug 20th, 2007, 08:45:46

Originally Posted by nimarq

Alot of PvP'ers wouldn't mind spending 5 perks for 1.5k-3.3k perk heal

Some PvMer's too..

coming from a sold perspective.. i would waste 3 perks of Power Up and 2 from Genius for a 1.5k-3k heal

**Neccoz** · Aug 20th, 2007, 11:37:13

*Takes the -crit and throws it away* Nobody cares about you mate, we don't need you anymore.

**Ciggie** · Aug 28th, 2007, 15:21:58

keeping this as is, seems thats what the MA community majorly wants

**TimmyTurtle** · Aug 28th, 2007, 21:33:00

Originally Posted by Ciggie

keeping this as is, seems thats what the MA community majorly wants

I think most MAs (not everyone that posted in this thread is an MA) are saying that they don't want everyone to be able to get rid of 5 perk points for this as a lot of people would, especially those that are 220 and just PvP now. That change would hurt us as MAs more than help. Yes we could heal with bow equiped but soldiers could heal with shark equiped, etc. I'm not sure if you were seeing that or not, your post that I quoted was kind of vague in that aspect. I don't want to see this idea getting rushed out to the devs on the professionals board and all the soldiers, agents and whoever else jumping all over it and in the end we end up having more problems killing everyone especially when it's an area that we don't have that many problems in right now.

**Ciggie** · Aug 29th, 2007, 05:42:36

excuse me if i got this wrong, but i thought the MA community didnt want this perk used with weapons as it WOULD ALLOW OTHERS TO REPERK INTO THIS, LIKE SOLS AND AGENTS AND WHAT NOT.

**dododo2** · Aug 29th, 2007, 11:35:31

Originally Posted by Ciggie

excuse me if i got this wrong, but i thought the MA community didnt want this perk used with weapons as it WOULD ALLOW OTHERS TO REPERK INTO THIS, LIKE SOLS AND AGENTS AND WHAT NOT.

Correct

**TimmyTurtle** · Aug 29th, 2007, 23:10:16

Originally Posted by Ciggie

excuse me if i got this wrong, but i thought the MA community didnt want this perk used with weapons as it WOULD ALLOW OTHERS TO REPERK INTO THIS, LIKE SOLS AND AGENTS AND WHAT NOT.

Yup, just wasn't sure with your last post if you were interpretting all of those longer posts with exceptions on how it should be changed as us wanting this change. Glad to see that we're all on the same page ^^

**Koizumi** · Aug 30th, 2007, 05:46:49

I vote for HB&M to be useable with w34p0nz...
And to make it MA only ;PP (keeps dreaming

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