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    Mastablasta Cataclysm Bugged

    Its due to the game mechanics that it works this way.
    I went to a pvp event, using new lost eden "pvp oriented" nukes that were advertised to us. Bad stuff happened.

    Please add this to the "NT buglist" thread.

    Code:
    Description:
    Nano Crystal - All enemies within 5 meters of the target will be hit for 5124 - 8540 points of radiation damage.
    This nano will pierce any reflect shields that the enemy has active.
    Note that the above clearly states it will hit all "enemies" in the area.

    50 clanners vs 100 omnis, Tarasque raid. I'm a 220 clan nanotechnician attacking an omni player

    You hit Snoopdooog with nanobots for 5034 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Etzal with nanobots for 4236 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Alexbeginner with nanobots for 10640 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Telperion with nanobots for 4394 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Prettty with nanobots for 5524 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Haywire604 with nanobots for 4604 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Horrified with nanobots for 8124 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Mikene with nanobots for 4904 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Eints with nanobots for 4626 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Lilianda with nanobots for 5250 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Dukets with nanobots for 6764 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Atillafex3 with nanobots for 3990 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit The Rihwen with nanobots for 7646 points of radiation damage. *pet*
    You hit Mazdawk with nanobots for 5242 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Sidethrust with nanobots for 3882 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Soldatenmin with nanobots for 5061 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Potetes with nanobots for 8397 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Mavchi with nanobots for 4753 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Etzal with nanobots for 4236 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Alexbeginner with nanobots for 8912 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Telperion with nanobots for 4394 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Prettty with nanobots for 5524 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Horrified with nanobots for 7454 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Mikene with nanobots for 4904 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Phoox with nanobots for 6081 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Shadowlizard with nanobots for 4790 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Atillafex3 with nanobots for 3990 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit The Rihwen with nanobots for 8091 points of radiation damage. *pet*
    You hit Mazdawk with nanobots for 5242 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Sidethrust with nanobots for 3882 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Soldatenmin with nanobots for 5061 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Potetes with nanobots for 7806 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Kolsolja with nanobots for 7193 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Jinball with nanobots for 8712 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Etzal with nanobots for 841 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Newariva1 with nanobots for 5490 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Arapif with nanobots for 5229 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Oplink with nanobots for 3210 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Shadowlizard with nanobots for 4790 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Notasoldier with nanobots for 7373 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Ddpro with nanobots for 5311 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Mazdawk with nanobots for 5242 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Soldatenmin with nanobots for 5061 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Potetes with nanobots for 7200 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Kolsolja with nanobots for 6910 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Jinball with nanobots for 9847 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Snoopdooog with nanobots for 5034 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Criticaldmg with nanobots for 6158 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Tricobalt with nanobots for 9631 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Taticu1 with nanobots for 4018 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Jinball with nanobots for 4353 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Qixbutt with nanobots for 3660 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Henzo with nanobots for 3037 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Etzal with nanobots for 3698 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Perenium with nanobots for 3826 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Ezued with nanobots for 3268 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Wrika with nanobots for 3013 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Luina with nanobots for 2953 points of radiation damage. *clan*
    You hit Demonocidio with nanobots for 3695 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Widowmaker Battle Drone with nanobots for 2722 points of radiation damage. *pet*

    At this point, most of the clanners have probably perished. Since no more messages about hitting
    them. These "pvp oriented nukes" don't work correctly.

    You hit Comissar with nanobots for 4027 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Scronix with nanobots for 2722 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Sucree with nanobots for 3355 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Trayton with nanobots for 3625 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Pfeb with nanobots for 3846 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Alekanekelo with nanobots for 3486 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Xaza with nanobots for 4712 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Otagent with nanobots for 3558 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Capsteak with nanobots for 2732 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Ivanished with nanobots for 2922 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Placeboheals with nanobots for 4410 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Kiwibu with nanobots for 2519 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Bladedancerr with nanobots for 4608 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Hyppocratka with nanobots for 3604 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Mastatrox with nanobots for 3470 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Saharinka with nanobots for 4165 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Warney with nanobots for 4206 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Jspe80 with nanobots for 4301 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Burrstin with nanobots for 3345 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Perskules with nanobots for 3315 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Bubusan with nanobots for 3078 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Bronepoesd with nanobots for 4608 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Primer55 with nanobots for 4202 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Corporate Guardian with nanobots for 2760 points of radiation damage. *pet*
    You hit Linadoc with nanobots for 2722 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Ihnnaw with nanobots for 3246 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Ilfor with nanobots for 2652 points of radiation damage. *omni lapdog*
    You hit Heyhachi with nanobots for 3186 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Drpajeron with nanobots for 3784 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Carlo Pinnetti with nanobots for 3061 points of radiation damage. *pet*
    You hit Nastradamus with nanobots for 3341 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Laola with nanobots for 4716 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Someoneelse with nanobots for 2731 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Hygyeia with nanobots for 4211 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Loricenn with nanobots for 3537 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Aerya with nanobots for 2986 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Clavi with nanobots for 3450 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Scronix with nanobots for 2907 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Military-Grade Marauder M-45 with nanobots for 3361 points of radiation damage.*pet*
    You hit Iina with nanobots for 2547 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Luina with nanobots for 4376 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Elengor with nanobots for 2765 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Mesc with nanobots for 2779 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Scronix with nanobots for 2722 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Demonocidio with nanobots for 3557 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Widowmaker Battle Drone with nanobots for 3456 points of radiation damage. *pet*
    You hit Sucree with nanobots for 3355 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Trayton with nanobots for 3533 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Shadowlizard with nanobots for 4009 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Pfeb with nanobots for 4462 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Alekanekelo with nanobots for 3555 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Xaza with nanobots for 4443 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Otagent with nanobots for 3910 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Capsteak with nanobots for 3785 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Ivanished with nanobots for 4384 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Placeboheals with nanobots for 3888 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Kiwibu with nanobots for 2519 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Bladedancerr with nanobots for 2879 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Hyppocratka with nanobots for 3402 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Saharinka with nanobots for 3292 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Warney with nanobots for 2998 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Jspe80 with nanobots for 3785 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Burrstin with nanobots for 2833 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Perskules with nanobots for 3453 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Bubusan with nanobots for 3132 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Bronepoesd with nanobots for 4023 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Primer55 with nanobots for 3622 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Corporate Guardian with nanobots for 3057 points of radiation damage. *pet*
    You hit Ihnnaw with nanobots for 4513 points of radiation damage. *omni lapdog*
    You hit Ilfor with nanobots for 4753 points of radiation damage. *omni lapdog*
    You hit Heyhachi with nanobots for 3258 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Drpajeron with nanobots for 4335 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Carlo Pinnetti with nanobots for 3470 points of radiation damage. *pet*
    You hit Nastradamus with nanobots for 3480 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Laola with nanobots for 4790 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Someoneelse with nanobots for 3353 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Hygyeia with nanobots for 3033 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Briie with nanobots for 4142 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Togafix with nanobots for 2837 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Loricenn with nanobots for 3951 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Aerya with nanobots for 4641 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Clavi with nanobots for 2732 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Scronix with nanobots for 3621 points of radiation damage. *omni*
    You hit Iina with nanobots for 4307 points of radiation damage. *omni*


    Yes it's an "old bug", everyone hated engineers for running aoe blinds before.
    I can only assume omnis brought a "pvp flagged" into the 25% gas, still though
    the crystal clearly states that it is for all enemies in the area, not
    "everyone" in the area. Any chance on getting it fixed?
    Last edited by __Infecticide; Apr 22nd, 2007 at 15:41:02.

  2. #2
    It's flags that cause this...
    Thor Mastablasta Hammersmith - Level 220, AI 30, LE 70 Clan Atrox Nano Technician - Setup
    The Red Brotherhood

    I'm a Nano-Technician, don't ever expect me to fight unbuffed, alone or fair.

    Means: about f'ing time :P
    Satenia: heresy <3
    Znore: Mastablasta <3
    Kinkstaah: I have agro from many mobs ;(
    Madarab: we are aoe class, we are supose to use pistols
    Marxgorm: the NT toolset does not fit into my raiding tactics

  3. #3
    I figure saying "pvp flags in 25% cause bugs" and funcom believes these are "working as intended". Saying the nuke is bugged, will bring better results, because it clearly states it is for enemies, not allies.
    Last edited by __Infecticide; Apr 22nd, 2007 at 16:33:17.

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    That nuke should totally take shield damage.

    Enjoying RK4

    STATUS OF SKY: Not Falling


    Gimp is a state of mind, nerfest is a state of being.

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by __Infecticide View Post
    I figure saying "pvp flags in 25% cause bugs" and funcom believes these are "working as intended". Saying the nuke is bugged, will bring better results, because it clearly states it is for enemies, not allies.
    All AOE nukes work like this. A flagged player is == an enemy to everyone else. Working as intended. Making up claims like "this is bugged because it doesn't work like I think it should" will get you exactly nowhere.
    Thor Mastablasta Hammersmith - Level 220, AI 30, LE 70 Clan Atrox Nano Technician - Setup
    The Red Brotherhood

    I'm a Nano-Technician, don't ever expect me to fight unbuffed, alone or fair.

    Means: about f'ing time :P
    Satenia: heresy <3
    Znore: Mastablasta <3
    Kinkstaah: I have agro from many mobs ;(
    Madarab: we are aoe class, we are supose to use pistols
    Marxgorm: the NT toolset does not fit into my raiding tactics

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Mastablasta View Post
    All AOE nukes work like this. A flagged player is == an enemy to everyone else. Working as intended. Making up claims like "this is bugged because it doesn't work like I think it should" will get you exactly nowhere.
    It's not just nukes, every AoE effect makes zero descrimination for side when flags are involved; I know stuff like Avalanche merrily stuns whoever is near me. The only exception is shadowbreeds.

    The change to this would require separate versions for omni, neut and clan. That said it would only make the nuke even more mindless than it is now.

    Enjoying RK4

    STATUS OF SKY: Not Falling


    Gimp is a state of mind, nerfest is a state of being.

  7. #7
    Pretty suprised you hit that many people with its 5 M range lol - I do love how 3 NTs can drop most of the other side pretty quick Reminds me of old Kels team days.
    Quote Originally Posted by Silirrion View Post
    We wouldn't make the nano in the first place if we didn't feel that it would be useful and at the very least a decent addition to any given professions nano listing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Abalz
    LOL

  8. #8
    Attackable = enemy, working as intended.
    Want triples nerfed? Here is what you can do (Don't be so retarded to apply this to todays game)

    Server 1sts: Only NT, and probably non-doc to solo LOTV.
    First LB member to recieve org forum and guest chat ban on departure <3


    [Neophyte soldier]: I can see your nukes ignore AMS, keep doing it noob, I'm petitioning as we speak!

    WTB 2 Fixes for grafts
    PVP roots for all rooting classes

    Currently forced to enjoy RK4 (broken PC), I'll be back soon.

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Abalz View Post
    Pretty suprised you hit that many people with its 5 M range lol - I do love how 3 NTs can drop most of the other side pretty quick Reminds me of old Kels team days.
    (ofc thats balanced)


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  10. #10
    http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=239760 is an item that spawns a different item depending on what prof you are, why can't this nuke what target's side is and AOE accordingly, with similar 'if' statements

  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyai View Post
    It's not just nukes ... The only exception is shadowbreeds.
    Quote Originally Posted by __Infecticide View Post
    http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=239760 is an item that spawns a different item depending on what prof you are, why can't this nuke what target's side is and AOE accordingly, with similar 'if' statements
    like a shadowbreed perhaps?

    Either way, I don't see why they should make it even easier for you to AoE people in PvP. It ignores reflect and damage shields, that's more than enough.

    Enjoying RK4

    STATUS OF SKY: Not Falling


    Gimp is a state of mind, nerfest is a state of being.

  12. #12
    not really. this nano is declared useless in every pvp situation because of what i consider to be a bug.
    Last edited by __Infecticide; Apr 22nd, 2007 at 23:28:47.

  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyai View Post
    Either way, I don't see why they should make it even easier for you to AoE people in PvP. It ignores reflect and damage shields, that's more than enough.
    It really needs to hit 3 times at once, like izgimmers triple does.
    Want triples nerfed? Here is what you can do (Don't be so retarded to apply this to todays game)

    Server 1sts: Only NT, and probably non-doc to solo LOTV.
    First LB member to recieve org forum and guest chat ban on departure <3


    [Neophyte soldier]: I can see your nukes ignore AMS, keep doing it noob, I'm petitioning as we speak!

    WTB 2 Fixes for grafts
    PVP roots for all rooting classes

    Currently forced to enjoy RK4 (broken PC), I'll be back soon.

  14. #14
    So lets as NTs conspire and take over tara! A few full teams of NTs and we will have all the expensive +dmg phats we will ever need... oh wait they are useless to us. So, who wants to take over tara and split the billions of creds we make? muahaha!
    RK1 Omni
    220/24 NT
    212/14 Keeper
    172/12 Advie
    150/5 Shade
    various lowbies

  15. #15
    rofl


    damn that hit alot of people. The range on that thing is what 3m?


    WTS experienced after all those kills
    Monayshot
    220 Fixer AL: 28

    Coxtrox
    220 Soldier AL: 27 (Permanent Vacation)

  16. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Cox View Post
    rofl


    damn that hit alot of people. The range on that thing is what 3m?


    WTS experienced after all those kills
    5meter radius, so it's actually a circle with a diameter of 10meters which is quite a lot.
    Thor Mastablasta Hammersmith - Level 220, AI 30, LE 70 Clan Atrox Nano Technician - Setup
    The Red Brotherhood

    I'm a Nano-Technician, don't ever expect me to fight unbuffed, alone or fair.

    Means: about f'ing time :P
    Satenia: heresy <3
    Znore: Mastablasta <3
    Kinkstaah: I have agro from many mobs ;(
    Madarab: we are aoe class, we are supose to use pistols
    Marxgorm: the NT toolset does not fit into my raiding tactics

  17. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by __Infecticide View Post
    Code:
    Description:
    Nano Crystal - All enemies within 5 meters of the target will be hit for 5124 - 8540 points of radiation damage.
    This nano will pierce any reflect shields that the enemy has active.
    Note that the above clearly states it will hit all "enemies" in the area.

    50 clanners vs 100 omnis, Tarasque raid. I'm a 220 clan nanotechnician attacking an omni player
    Funny thing, tried nuking a clanner instead?

    Maybe it meant "all enemies OF the target?" ^_^

    And yes of course I know that's not what it really means, but maybe FC humour?
    Nano Fetishist.

    Anim - NanoAgent - Highest on rk1, and maybe highest active across all 3 servers.
    Leaudoma - Nanomage NT
    Ashzhanra - Nanomage MP
    Marjah - NanoEnf
    (Also various other non-nanomage gimps)

    Mocker for Life.

  18. #18
    Funnily enough if you cast an AOE on yourself with it, it doesn't damage or affect you, but if you nuke a mob, or other player it does affect it. I of course would love to see AOE's affect the player that casted it, *if* they casted it on themselves because I'm so tired of people abusing this to root and do damage to other people in the area they don't know are there

  19. #19
    I added this to the buglist, they are supposed to be starting the feedback back to the forums this next week so they might as well look into that as well.
    Steveo 220 Clan NT RK2
    Contagion 220 Clan Doc RK2


    Proud wielder of the Pitchfork of Satenia

  20. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    I added this to the buglist, they are supposed to be starting the feedback back to the forums this next week so they might as well look into that as well.
    Don't they claim to be in constant feedback on the forums? I'll belive it when I see it I guess.
    Quote Originally Posted by Silirrion View Post
    We wouldn't make the nano in the first place if we didn't feel that it would be useful and at the very least a decent addition to any given professions nano listing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Abalz
    LOL

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