Grats riders on TNH

[Gelanin]

Stop sending me dirty tells over MSN and call instead?

SHUSH!!!!

They do not need to know that!

[Nekrous]

do you have to comment on every move in pande?

[Reziukas]

At least a couple of recent pvm threads are becoming more popular than pvp threads

[Coen]

the truth is that we made a coop with CzA and decided to go together, the DD is just random really, Paja probably took it from some APF, we rolled for first mid, where we won, then CzA won the roll for 2nd mid, and at TNH we used points that we have on joint coop bot, so...

On the other hand - yesterday CzA didnt have numbers, so we decided to coop with Tranq and MC (this way we have 4 orgs and are sure to get beast on every spawn), 2 burdens dropped, as far as I remember Tranq had most points saved on our bot, so they won org bidding (we bid with whole orgs - its not our business how the org divides loot, its the easiest way to decide which org loots), and second was MC, guess I'll need to do a few more raids, but then again Tranq used almost all of their pts, so am sure next burden will be ours.

[Gelanin]

the truth is that we made a coop with CzA and decided to go together, the DD is just random really, Paja probably took it from some APF, we rolled for first mid, where we won, then CzA won the roll for 2nd mid, and at TNH we used points that we have on joint coop bot, so...

On the other hand - yesterday CzA didnt have numbers, so we decided to coop with Tranq and MC (this way we have 4 orgs and are sure to get beast on every spawn), 2 burdens dropped, as far as I remember Tranq had most points saved on our bot, so they won org bidding (we bid with whole orgs - its not our business how the org divides loot, its the easiest way to decide which org loots), and second was MC, guess I'll need to do a few more raids, but then again Tranq used almost all of their pts, so am sure next burden will be ours.

Pffft!

LoL though

[Reziukas]

Lol

[Coen]

Ragnarok looted today's burden, they had more points combined then we did, that means Tranq/RR/MC already used up their pts which is a good news for me

[tojejedno]

Ragnarok looted today's burden, they had more points combined then we did, that means Tranq/RR/MC already used up their pts which is a good news for me

Well next Burden is for CzA cos we got most points now (you spent it on TNH, remember?):P

[Jhenis]

Ok - i have a question

Now that Nums has patiently explained the working of the FFA deals - basically to try and bring peace to pande and stop all the ninja looting/deleting of items on zods and training etc

an after reading the HC boards and trying to get a better informed picture beofre i blah blah on about something i honestly didnt know much about theres someting i saw here in some posts which has confused m,e again

i thought any coop FFA raids on 'private' joint efforts between orgs would not be points based - as this would mean they work just like the public bot and WAY against the rules agreed on all sides

2 burdens dropped, as far as I remember Tranq had most points saved on our bot, so they won org bidding (we bid with whole orgs - its not our business how the org divides loot

i dont understand this - it quite clearly is said on HC that any org coops bots using a point system wont be tolerated and anyone on that bot will be banned from HC - perhaps iv misuunderstood something or read it wrong - but please explain this ti me

(honest not a whinge!)

-jh-

[Pajaaa]

is one big point bot which using all coops. That way is more clear and all are happy. Even if another coop win loot in DD war and they dont have pts, they have to pass it to whom who has. If you wanna apply for FFA bot with your org PM to coen in game

[Somni]

Somni has gain a new LAMO lvl

[Jhenis]

is one big point bot which using all coops. That way is more clear and all are happy. Even if another coop win loot in DD war and they dont have pts, they have to pass it to whom who has. If you wanna apply for FFA bot with your org PM to coen in game

this isnt a complaint about not being able to FFA - nor exclusion from FFA due to the size of my org


it is clearly stated in the rules agreed by both sides that any coops on either side running FFA raids will not run a points system - cannot run a points system as basically it becomes a closed 'public' bot for the selected few but working on the same principals as HC or Zodsnet

it clearly is said that these coops cannot work in the same way as the public bots by giving points with can be then used to auction on loot drops

and anyone involved in this sort of thing will be banned on their sides public bot

FFA coop points bots are against the rules

-jh-

[Jhenis]

Somni has gain a new LAMO lvl

<3 ~huugss~

[Pajaaa]

all FFA coops are connected to that system, so if you ban them, there wont be any of FFA coops.

and you know that, rules are made to be break and sometimes they need to bend a little.

IMHO without this system it couldnt work. Ppl will train each other, there will be ninja looting, KS and again training and ofc connected trashtalk. This is the best deal.

And if i'm not wrong next budens goes to cza, so I wont cancel this deal

[Pafpuf]

IMHO without this system it couldnt work. Ppl will train each other, there will be ninja looting, KS and again training and ofc connected trashtalk. This is the best deal.

Greetings citizens of Rubi-ka. Welcome to Bureaucracy Online.

[Jhenis]

all FFA coops are connected to that system, so if you ban them, there wont be any of FFA coops.

and you know that, rules are made to be break and sometimes they need to bend a little.

IMHO without this system it couldnt work. Ppl will train each other, there will be ninja looting, KS and again training and ofc connected trashtalk. This is the best deal.

And if i'm not wrong next budens goes to cza, so I wont cancel this deal

i mean i agree in part - but these are rules which the superadmins and such have laid down to EVERYone - not just their own little groups that can bend the rules to suit their purposes as they see fit.

and yeh i agree the FFA system atm is perhaps the best way of keeping peace in pande an allowing everyone who attends a much happier time there


but it still doesnt sit right that these are rules which if i decided to make a bot all of my own - between say mine and two other orgs to distribute points for loot rights - outside of any other controls other than my own - i and everyone else on that bot would be perma banned from HC

this seems like double-standards

and im sorry - a !roll would work just as well for deciding which org got loot rights - because other wise this is an abuse of the rules agreed by all sides and makes it seems once again that those who 'decide' things for the rest of us and how we should behave - dont have to apply those rules to themselves.

-jh-

[Pajaaa]

ok let me talk with coen about this (dunno why you take this to public!! i told you that is not good)
when burden drops and my alt get another burden we will switch to !roll i think

[Pafpuf]

So much fuss over a crappy back item.

[Jhenis]

ok let me talk with coen about this (dunno why you take this to public!! i told you that is not good)
when burden drops and my alt get another burden we will switch to !roll i think

honest it wasnt a whinge lol

i was just catching up with some reading on the forums an such and then reading some posts here just got me to thinking

dangerous i know

-jh-

[Jhenis]

So much fuss over a crappy back item.

Paf!!! *hugs*