Evades at 150

[nusteh]

I have a soldier parked at 150 for pvp. Curious what some of the proffesions have as average defense so that I know what to expect from upgrades to my attack power. Maybe a ballpark figure for an average set up, good setup and really twinked set up. I am only sitting at I believe 1450ish so I know that I have some work to do :P

Thanks for the responses

[Hardcore]

The ideal AR for pvp is 1550+ at 150, You HAVE to land full auto, at any time. (I'm not taking evade profs into consideration now)

[gomp]

My soldier had 1835AR when I had towers on him. This is still not good enough. I could squeeze out a few more points, but I doubt it would make much difference. Evades are stupidly over powered at level 150! You wont ever perk a good advy, martial artist, fixer, and not even the top defensive traders. Everything else is easily perkable.

[Thorneee]

My soldier had 1835AR when I had towers on him. This is still not good enough. I could squeeze out a few more points, but I doubt it would make much difference. Evades are stupidly over powered at level 150! You wont ever perk a good advy, martial artist, fixer, and not even the top defensive traders. Everything else is easily perkable.

sold, perks, wut ?

[nusteh]

So 1550 for most non evaders is alright?

1835 wasnt good enough for the evaders? I would assume doing anything while DOF is up is out of the question but when its down and they only have limber how effective are regular hits? Could you land the 80% check debuff? TMS your way through DOF and then whittle away there hp for the supernova swap during limber?

Every now and then I am able to land some perks on the evaders but I guess I am just coming up on gimps like myself :P

[Msakopax]

1835 sounds rather nice! Played a soldier with 1690 or so myself (was quite a while ago though)
but I found landing dodge debuffs and pumping out bursts/fa and swap for AS hurt even evades quite alot.
Fixers being the exception even when dof is down and advs could usually heal / coon etc up quick enough ;P

[Desdishado]

Someone told me they had 2100 AR on a soli soldier @ 150. I didn't believe them. My trox soldier (now stripped) had about 1550 in a pvm mediocre setup, ql225 ofab chest/pants/gloves, AR/FA sleeves, symbs and ql180ish supple boots/helm. Enfs do get >2100 with procs up though. Most evade profs give soldiers major trouble because they survive TMS and then pew pew. I also had a 150 fixer (now leveled) with ql210-225 CSS, symbs, think I had around 2k static evades iirc. 150 fix is surprisingly weak in the survivability department (non GA4), basically you have to kite constantly and pray your heal proc fires because HoT's are pretty worthless (your hot proc will do more healing than both your HoT's together, iirc).

[nusteh]

1835 sounds rather nice! Played a soldier with 1690 or so myself (was quite a while ago though)
but I found landing dodge debuffs and pumping out bursts/fa and swap for AS hurt even evades quite alot.
Fixers being the exception even when dof is down and advs could usually heal / coon etc up quick enough ;P

Well that is good to hear. 1690 doesnt seem as intimidating to reach.

[jefke]

Someone told me they had 2100 AR on a soli soldier @ 150. I didn't believe them. My trox soldier (now stripped) had about 1550 in a pvm mediocre setup, ql225 ofab chest/pants/gloves, AR/FA sleeves, symbs and ql180ish supple boots/helm. Enfs do get >2100 with procs up though. Most evade profs give soldiers major trouble because they survive TMS and then pew pew. I also had a 150 fixer (now leveled) with ql210-225 CSS, symbs, think I had around 2k static evades iirc. 150 fix is surprisingly weak in the survivability department (non GA4), basically you have to kite constantly and pray your heal proc fires because HoT's are pretty worthless (your hot proc will do more healing than both your HoT's together, iirc).

maybe teamed with a 220 crat with both aura's up, else thats not possible
1800+ is enough to kill evade profs if you know what you're doing, ga fixers might be an issue, but rest is just timing

[nusteh]

Well, I took the plunge and went rifle. Been using a zastaba for the last week and I am finding it very effective. I had to put on a 275 scope though, so I lost 40 attack rating and 70 add dmg from hud 3. Also for now, the loss of FAT for 19 attack rating.

Even once I can afford to buy some of the higher end gear like some pieces of CC I dont see myself swapping that scope out ever again. Most of the time I run around with the rifle on and begin swapping as soon as i see someone to start off with an AS. then swap it back on every 14 sec. Of course save the supernova for the sure kill

I just got a hold of a 200 Alsaqri. I am very excited to see the performance with the 1 second equip time.

[McKnuckleSamwich]

http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=152134

why not try one of these?

or does bow just not work well with soldiers?

[nusteh]

needs about 400 more AS skill to cap

[Pomidor]

I have on my 150 soldier 1790AR (could go for 1860 at top selfed)), but vs evade twinks its rather useless. Unless they will be to late with perks, you can actually land deevades, but thats just pure random stuff, dont rely on it at all.

[Mongoose]

A few years ago I tried hotswapping an arbalest with SPB on a tl5 soldier. If you're omni, a zastaba would be ok. AS gives guaranteed dmg against evaders but you'll have to use a scope. I also perked NR1 to help deal with roots etc.