OTPC: Sentinel Attacks on 2HO

[Dabblez]

Savoy has had stuck in her little pea brain for years and years and won't let go of it. The Dust Brigade is NOT a Clan organization. She refuses to let go of it, uses it to tie terrorism into Clan, and refuses to hear anything different.

The Dust Brigade were clearly defined as a Clan in a not so distant past. As I have no idea by what process a Clan can be "de-Clanned" I have to assume it the Dust Brigade are still is a Clan.

Likewise there may be even be underground Neutral and Omni chapters of the Dust Brigade - it would not be the first time organisations have cells in different factions. But does not alter the orgin of the Dust BRigades is among the Clans.

As time goes on, more grid sites disappear and history seems to get mysteriously rewritten. However I've atleast found this source to back my claim http://forums.anarchy-online.com/sho...hreadid=44519&.

Regards,


Savoy

[keyya]

Ok...Hows this...?

The Dust Brigade is a Clan...but their actions have been condemned by all the other Clans. For that reason they started attacking Clans aswell.
This does not "de-clan" them as you say. But it does show how the rest of the Clans feel about them.
I do however not see how people can say that they are one with the "Clans" because they never have been. They might be *a* clan, they are not on the same goal as the clans are.
Lets be honest now, noone here knows what they stand for other than terorising every living human on Rubi-Ka.
We do know what the Unionists stand for and some support them. We know what the Sentinels stand for and some support them. Same goes for the Knights and the rest of the Legacy Clans.
Dust Brigade is not 'one of us'. Now take some time to let that sink into your brains before you go off saying the opposite.

Not every Clan has the same goal. Yes, this can cause problems between the many Clans that exist. The only way we could make sure that the Clans come together was to give them a Council where they can all meet once a month to see if they can help eachother and to debate what we can do to further help the Clan goal.

So far there have not been any discusions, plans or plots on invading Omni-Tek teritory. So if a Clan does that it means that certain Clan is responsible for its actions and you should condemn them and not the whole Clan public nor the Council of Truth. This is because the whole Council of Truth would most probably not agree on an attack.
We have since the existense of the new Council never planned any offensives against Omni-Tek or into Omni-Tek teritory.

I however don't believe I can say the same about Omni-Teks director board...Or am I now lieing?

[Dabblez]

Ok...Hows this...?

The Dust Brigade is a Clan...but their actions have been condemned by all the other Clans.

Well, actually, I've know a few Clan Dust Brigade supporters. It was a long time ago and I am sure it was just a minority.

For that reason they started attacking Clans aswell.

Nothing unsual in that. Clan fight Clan everyday. Even among the Clerical Staff of the CoT are Clanners who have spilled Clan blood over political differences.

This does not "de-clan" them as you say.

We are in agreement then.

I do however not see how people can say that they are one with the "Clans" because they never have been. They might be *a* clan, they are not on the same goal as the clans are.

That is where I disagree. The Dust Brigade and the Eco Warriors may be two of the most extreme examples of Clans at odds with other Clans, but its not in itslef unusual. New Dawn wants a peaceful, negotiate solution with Omni-Tek, The Sentinels and the Unionists want to fight to the bitter end. Gaia don't give a damn either way as long as they get to build their new Eden in the outzones and when it come to business deal, Vanguard can "out Omni-tek" Omni-Tek any day of the week.

Essentially you can't really generalise when it comes to the Clans. there is no eright way' of being Clan. Pretty much every sort of kind of philosophy under the sun is or has been endored by one or more Clans at one point of another. Which means that there is no one Clan philosophy, no one Clan ideal or goal.

So if a Clan does that it means that certain Clan is responsible for its actions and you should condemn them and not the whole Clan public nor the Council of Truth.

I agree 100%. I am not saying that all Clans should be judged by the actions of the Dust Brigade. I am just saying that pretending the Dust Brigade was never a Clan becasue its inconvenient is hypocritocal.

I however don't believe I can say the same about Omni-Teks director board...Or am I now lieing?

Now that would be classified information I'm afriad, though I am sure some enterprising Clan spy has already got all the transcripts.

Savoy

[Twistshot]

Breathing in my own waste products...I like that one. Too bad when I go into Omni-Ent and look around, I can't even walk into the sewers because they are so toxic they would kill me if I stayed in them for too long. I'm looking around Clan cities...I don't see much waste here. As for the rest, it's a matter of convenience for Savoy (a very bright person, I might add, but her views rankle me to the bone) to accuse the Dust Brigade of being a Clan along with the rest of us, and then tell me to prove it to her that they are not. No one else is making these kinds of scurillious accusations. Yet, I have to come up with the justification defending someone else's hare-brained theories? No, that's her job. It's been a very long held belief that the DB's are funded from off-planet, likely a 3rd party that has an interest in Notum. My first guess was SBC, but it could be any number of mega-corporations like OT. Are they mercenaries for hire? Probably. What does that prove (cough, cough...Loren Warr...cough, snicker)? We can speculate all we like, but we have no definitive proof in any form as to their goals or their backers. But to sit there and say that the Dust Brigade terrorists are Clanners in the same manner as I am...no, that's not going to cut it at all, and I will rail against that kind of nonesense any time I see it.

Well, this is interesting, you are capable of speaking with only a minimal about of poison being spewed out.

On the Dust Brigade, I to have asked the same questions. I do not question the fact that they are currently not a member of the Clans, no one is crazy enought to take them in now. However the, and I'll give you this point to reduce the agument, question of their origin being in the clans or not has not been address other than by people spewing hate at eachother as if it were from a fire hose.

And please, spare me the melodrama about your fictional 12 year old child and some psychotic Clanners on a rampage. That is such a wad of bologna.

Believe it or not, I am the one that has to live with the nightmares.

[keyya]

Now that would be classified information I'm afriad, though I am sure some enterprising Clan spy has already got all the transcripts.

I'm talking about the recent invasions into Clan teritory by Omni-Pol and Omni-AF forces to capture a certain doctor. *smiles*

[Naefen]

I go to 2HO to shoot up Omni frequently. Don't bother me one bit if other Clan personel do the same.

And this is something you want to brag about?

[Vixentrox]

And this is something you want to brag about?

Who is bragging? Just stating a fact.

[joshuacrime]

Well, this is interesting, you are capable of speaking with only a minimal about of poison being spewed out.

I am always capable of speaking without my usual vitriol. But I seldom get the opportunity, because these nabobs keep poking their head in here, and attempting to convince me of their bull****, which we do not buy. It's a simple fact that OT is an abomination police state. If you choose to pretend it's not, then you are a blind fool that enjoys the nose ring they installed in you to lead you around with.

Totalitarianism isn't a new theme in politics, it's just the worst one, because it shows to be a failure of the human spirit time and time again. Oh sure, it manages to win battles and sometimes major victories. But guess what? Justice comes to all. And that slimebag piece of **** Zora had the nerve to use the word "Justice" in the same sentence as "Omni Tek".

So when people start owning up to the fact that OT employees are owned and operated by horrible monsters instead of human beings, then I can start debating and reasoning with a calm and collected demeanor. Until then, buck up, troop. I get very nasty.

On the Dust Brigade, I to have asked the same questions. I do not question the fact that they are currently not a member of the Clans, no one is crazy enought to take them in now. However the, and I'll give you this point to reduce the agument, question of their origin being in the clans or not has not been address other than by people spewing hate at eachother as if it were from a fire hose.

Believe it or not, I am the one that has to live with the nightmares.

Your nightmares are no concern of mine. Any soldier that has killed in the name of duty has them, because it's a de****able act, ordered by even more de****able people who have the blood of millions on their hands, yet they go to sleep with a clear conscience because someone else does the wet work for them. It all depends on whether or not you deserved your death or not that makes the nightmares tolerable. Were you the soldier of a noble troop, defending your way of life with justice, truth and honor? Or were you a Brownshirt zombie adding to the pile of vermin that is your philosophy?

Not everything washes out in water. The misdeeds of OT don't, that's for sure. There is blood in everything your corporation does. Maybe we should call it OB for Omni Bloodsuckers. I'd buy that one, it fits more.

And now, Zora is ready to "reclaim it all" as he so delightfully puts it. Every man, woman and child! All I can say to that is:

YOU FILTHY MURDERER!

Now...was that nicer in tone, Ghost? You be the judge.

[joshuacrime]

The Dust Brigade were clearly defined as a Clan in a not so distant past. As I have no idea by what process a Clan can be "de-Clanned" I have to assume it the Dust Brigade are still is a Clan.

Likewise there may be even be underground Neutral and Omni chapters of the Dust Brigade - it would not be the first time organisations have cells in different factions. But does not alter the orgin of the Dust BRigades is among the Clans.

As time goes on, more grid sites disappear and history seems to get mysteriously rewritten. However I've atleast found this source to back my claim http://forums.anarchy-online.com/sho...hreadid=44519&.

Regards,


Savoy

You see, there you go again. As you can see, from the source which you claim is your "smoking gun", it clearly says that Clan can have nothing to do with them. They are merely a completely renegade faction. Cz's mistake was making them "Clan" because they are not. And no one here has had to rewrite history, you just hate it when people disprove your bull**** with logic, and come up with this line of bull**** to justify lumping in Clan with the Dust Brigade. Keep doing it, Savoy. Except, no one really believes you. It's a LIE. WE ALL KNOW IT IS A LIE. But if you want to keep on feeding yourself lies, be my guest. Eet smaaklijk. Bon appetit.

You see, the earliest inception of the Dust Brigades probably meant that they were a "Clan". But what did that mean compared to what it means now? Back then, the militias that split off with OT became "Clans" in their vernacular. Nowadays, Clan is a political structure made up of many factions all unified under an umbrella. A group like the DB is hunted with glee by us, and groups like the Eco-Warriors that just talk mean but don't really do anything are just marginalized. We do everything in a civil, lawful manner.

We can't help it if OT does not. It merely makes up justification by stage managing bull**** time and time again. It sharpens it's knife when it says it wants peace. It waits for the throat to be exposed before baring it's fangs for a bite at the jugular. After all, to really stab someone in the back, you have to get behind them first. Welcome to your world.

[drgrimmy]

"Cz's mistake was making them "Clan" because they are not"

"It's a LIE. WE ALL KNOW IT IS A LIE. But if you want to keep on feeding yourself lies, be my guest. Eet smaaklijk. Bon appetit."

((ooc: in the story line they were clan at first....deal with it...and lets keep rp/ooc seprate))

your starting to sould like a child who's mommy won;t let him have a candy bar at the store.
your attempting to denie your own history...calling it"LIES"...so what is your form of truth?...you never did reply to my post..what is your point?...or are you just going to keep screaming like a madman.


"We do everything in a civil, lawful manner"~Joshua Crime
Yeah you cleand up the neutral bloodstains in TIR in a very civil manner...


I'm going to ask 1 question...try not to side step it this time....

What is your point?

[joshuacrime]

"Cz's mistake was making them "Clan" because they are not"

"It's a LIE. WE ALL KNOW IT IS A LIE. But if you want to keep on feeding yourself lies, be my guest. Eet smaaklijk. Bon appetit."

((ooc: in the story line they were clan at first....deal with it...and lets keep rp/ooc seprate))

your starting to sould like a child who's mommy won;t let him have a candy bar at the store.
your attempting to denie your own history...calling it"LIES"...so what is your form of truth?...you never did reply to my post..what is your point?...or are you just going to keep screaming like a madman.


"We do everything in a civil, lawful manner"~Joshua Crime
Yeah you cleand up the neutral bloodstains in TIR in a very civil manner...


I'm going to ask 1 question...try not to side step it this time....

What is your point?

My point? My point is that every time one of you Omni rejects wants to sit there and tell me what the history of this planet is, and then try to make up the significance of an event, or the alignment of certain groups that are so antithetical to our way of thinking in the modern Clan age, then I'm going to berate you, ridicule you, point my finger and you and shout out in a big, loud voice to everyone that can hear me that "THIS PERSON IS DUMB".

A child that is...what? I lost any and all connection with what this has to do with anything we are discussing. You're about as bright as a two-watt light bulb. Come back when you have something good to say.

Oh, and Tir? Give me a break! Omni hunted the Council into exile because they lied and said that the Dust Brigade was in league with the Council, which they were not! Once again, Omni lies about everything they say to push forward an agenda! You people do take the cake, you know. The "blood of the neutrals"? How melodramatic. Probably 2 or 3 of them, all with paid insurance. No, you were thrown out on your neutral asses because Simon didn't like fence sitters, and since Omni made the Council disappear, guess what? The Council didn't have much to say about the goings on of other Legacy Clan organizations at that time. Once they came back, the Sentinels came back to the fold and started to behave! Incredible, isn't it? Don't chase us with your garbage legal skullduggery and we can exist quite nicely and peacefully.

((OOC: as far as I'm concerned, when Cz says that any org might have individual members that sympathize with the Dust Brigades but you may not give them your support in the Council, that means that they do not exist as a Clan. They are their own seperate entity. They could have been a Clan organization originally, but guess what? They went way off the reservation. This has nothing to do with anything FC says about it. The players handle the Council, and they want no truck with the DB. End of story. You deal with it, and don't for one single second tell me or anyone else what to do.))

[Dagget]

The Dust Brigade is, as Cz noted, a terrorist organization and has been since it's 1st appeareance on Rubi-Ka. Sentinals attack them on sight, as do Unicorns; and the DB attacks everyone equally. Nobody knows who, if anyone, backs them - could be Omni, could be Clan, could be Sol banking, or some other element. Calling them a 'Clan' has no functional benefit. Might as well call them an early Unicorn specialist unit - it's just as (in)valid an assessment. The CoT, as an umbrella organization, has both militaristic as well as pacificist Guilds within it's structure but it and they have nothing to do with the DB.

Umm, so what was the original point of calling the DB Clan?

[Naefen]

I honestly dont think anyone on Rubi Ka is the ones supporting the DB.

[Socialfly]

OOC:

((OOC: as far as I'm concerned, when Cz says that any org might have individual members that sympathize with the Dust Brigades but you may not give them your support in the Council, that means that they do not exist as a Clan. They are their own seperate entity. They could have been a Clan organization originally, but guess what? They went way off the reservation. This has nothing to do with anything FC says about it. The players handle the Council, and they want no truck with the DB. End of story. You deal with it, and don't for one single second tell me or anyone else what to do.))

The original impression when they first appeared is they were an extreemest clan. The reason we do not include the Dust Brigade as a group you can affiliate with, is because this particular story group, is to remain mysterious to an extent, and affiliation or purpose not to be revealed as clan, omni or other. It is even a mystery if the Dust Brigade today is the same as in the past. It's part of the thing that scares us about them. No one truly knows who they are.

Now back to your regular in character thread

Cheers

Social

[joshuacrime]

OOC:



The original impression when they first appeared is they were an extreemest clan. The reason we do not include the Dust Brigade as a group you can affiliate with, is because this particular story group, is to remain mysterious to an extent, and affiliation or purpose not to be revealed as clan, omni or other. It is even a mystery if the Dust Brigade today is the same as in the past. It's part of the thing that scares us about them. No one truly knows who they are.

Now back to your regular in character thread

Cheers

Social

Thanks for the clarification, Social.

My commentary here is meant to be completely OOC, and it's nice to see someone come in from FC. I realized a long time ago that some things that FC comes up with are purposely left hazy for storyline reasoning and future plot development. Cz really put a lot of it in very unclear relief, to be honest. The trouble with it is, the evangelists on both sides of the fence have trouble reading the tea leaves, I think. It gets to the point where we need a bloody story board to figure it all out. I have to go back into the story lines a dozen times to even remotely think I'm coherent and logical in my ordering of events and who did what when, but I sometimes am unsure and who wouldn't be?

Perhaps we can have a better historical timeline made up of past events? Given that so much stuff has been happening over the years, we'd need half a book, but one good page or two might help.

[joshuacrime]

I honestly dont think anyone on Rubi Ka is the ones supporting the DB.

I know, Naef, but you are in the minority as far as OT people go. Some are just so stuck in the past, and believe all Clanners to be terrorist, that they cannot get their heads out of it. Savoy unfortunately falls into this category, as do quite a number of other people.

Be fair, and I'll even give Phillip Ross's OT the benefit of the doubt. Even old Phil didn't say something like that. But remember, the first tool of the totalitarian society is to rewrite history to remove it's mistakes and to justify it's philosophy against any that claim it might not be all it says it is.

You don't get the benefit of the doubt any longer, though. What is really bad is that Zora is a bloodthirsy murderer, and he has made his intentions plain enough to all that can comprehend simple English. This is the time you will stand up and be counted. Are you for Rubi-Ka and peace? Or are you for the corporation vampire and slaughter?

[Naefen]

You don't get the benefit of the doubt any longer, though. What is really bad is that Zora is a bloodthirsy murderer, and he has made his intentions plain enough to all that can comprehend simple English.

Problem with this is that its mostly wordtwisters like you who see Mr.Zora`s statement like this. If you could for once drag your old mug out of the conspiracy/aversion/deceit helmet and simply read a statement and take it for what it is you would se it aswell.
Unfortunately, I am fully aware that it will never happen.

Just because someone say they will do all they can to keep things safe and punish the ones who agressively attack for no other reason than to do damage and hurt the fragile "peace" we share, doesnt mean they will attack and kill all clanners. Maybe it means that they will try to keep things safe and punish the agressive killers?
Yes, I do mean people like Simon Silverstone. He has proven all too many times what his goals are and how he means too pursuit them. Hopefully, your "allmighty" CoT will soon realize how much trouble he is about to bring them and banish him once and for all but I seriously, and sadly, dont see it happen.

You call him a murderer and a liar. How can you say that? He is/was a Unicorn and a successive one at that, but you have no idea what sort of actions have brought him to where he is today.
And where is he today? Not even on the planet and still you are screaming as if he had already nuked the hell out of the northern parts of the planet. Give it a rest... Its just not impressive any more.

Maybe its a new clan-tactic? To scream in terror of what the CEO most likely will do then minutes later lining up behind Silverstone, like blind cattle, and charge into Omni Tek territory slaying all before you. Who are the drones? You sure you want Silverstone behind the controls? He is most certainly grasping after them for all his worth these days.....and winning aswell. Be aware of the beast wich is the clans these days. Your freedomfighters are gone. Now, your siding with profitmaking moguls wich will stop at nothing to maintain theyre steady income. That is what you are fighting for. Freedom was gained many years ago.

[keyya]

Problem with this is that its mostly wordtwisters like you who see Mr.Zora`s statement like this. If you could for once drag your old mug out of the conspiracy/aversion/deceit helmet and simply read a statement and take it for what it is you would se it aswell.
Unfortunately, I am fully aware that it will never happen.

Just because someone say they will do all they can to keep things safe and punish the ones who agressively attack for no other reason than to do damage and hurt the fragile "peace" we share, doesnt mean they will attack and kill all clanners. Maybe it means that they will try to keep things safe and punish the agressive killers?
Yes, I do mean people like Simon Silverstone. He has proven all too many times what his goals are and how he means too pursuit them. Hopefully, your "allmighty" CoT will soon realize how much trouble he is about to bring them and banish him once and for all but I seriously, and sadly, dont see it happen.

You call him a murderer and a liar. How can you say that? He is/was a Unicorn and a successive one at that, but you have no idea what sort of actions have brought him to where he is today.
And where is he today? Not even on the planet and still you are screaming as if he had already nuked the hell out of the northern parts of the planet. Give it a rest... Its just not impressive any more.

Maybe its a new clan-tactic? To scream in terror of what the CEO most likely will do then minutes later lining up behind Silverstone, like blind cattle, and charge into Omni Tek territory slaying all before you. Who are the drones? You sure you want Silverstone behind the controls? He is most certainly grasping after them for all his worth these days.....and winning aswell. Be aware of the beast wich is the clans these days. Your freedomfighters are gone. Now, your siding with profitmaking moguls wich will stop at nothing to maintain theyre steady income. That is what you are fighting for. Freedom was gained many years ago.

Who are you kidding?

Where is our freedom? What...Wait you mean the freedom for us to be a Clanner when Omni-Prime still sees the planet as his to do with whatever they want?
Or is it the freedom that we have chosen for ourselfs? Cause every day I look in my mailbox...no "youre free" postcard from Omni-Tek mister.
Nobody gave me no freedom nohow. And you think this because youre sitting in your comfortable appartement in Rome or Entertainment district. Or youre sitting behind your nice little desk filling papers day in day out that you think we have gotten our freedom because we can walk the streets and work when we preffer to work? It wasn't Omni-Tek that gave us that freedom. It was the Clanners that took their own liberty to call themselfs free from Omni-Tek.
We've gotten our freedom? When? Maybe you don't acknowledge it but Omni-Tek Rubi-Ka and Omni-Prime still see "Clan teritory" as their teritory and will walk into it to do whatever they wish whenever they wish.
They are still arresting inocent clanners. Just a couple of months ago they arrested a whole bunch of Clanners who had nothing to do with anything. Beating them up at an interogation. And theres enough proof of that happening.
The people of Rubi-Ka will be free when there is no coorporation here. None.

And about the Dust Brigade...well I've got some bad news for you guys.
Talks about the Dust Brigade being a Clan force supported by the Clans?
Guess what....Last night I heared the sirens of Bliss going off. Rushed myself there to find a major pack of Mutants all over the place. I rushed into battle with them as one of the first and when they were all dead some Dust Brigade elite masked forces barged in. With united forces of the Clans and one or two neutrals we killed a dozen or more of them that were around Bliss. There was two monsterous mutants aswell who kept screaming that they didn't want to attack but were forced. Something about "Medical Research".
Security said the Dusties might still be around the Longest Road district. I followed one of them that was retreating south east. Rounded up the forces that were still in Bliss to go towards....tadaaaaaan....Formemans Office.
Biomare, Omni-Tek Medical Research facilities. On the way we killed a couple of DB elites and when we got to Biomare we saw a lot more DB forces.

Now what does this have to do with Omni-Tek and Dust Brigade?
The Omni-Tek guards there were not attacking them. Better yet, when we were attacking the Dust Brigade commandos, your stern guards and Omni-Pol robots started attacking US instead!
All of a sudden we suspect that Omni-Tek has alarmed their forces because theres some Omni-Tek employees rounding up at Biomare aswell. At least they helped us a bit killing the remaining DBs.
When the last ones were being killed the Biomare security sends out a message that they will lock down the place and everyone will be shot on sight.
In the meanwhile where I and the rest of the forces were killing the Dust Brigade, some of our Clans had sneaked into Foremans Office. A lot of mutants there similair to the ones that attacked Bliss...and we found some information...

Makes you wonder doesn't it?

[Naefen]

First of all, Legaron, if you believe I am a pen and paper kind of guy you are sadly mistaken.

You are free in the sense that you do not work for Omni Tek and nobody else but yourself anymore. You cant seriously expect Omni Tek to send you guys a "you are free" postcard can you? Not many clanners living today even set foot in Omni Tek or any other honest work for that matter.
Your claims to fight for your freedom is outdated and maybe some honesty from your side about what you really fight for could clear things up. But you have to cling to your long dead ancestors cause and I understand you all.... It is by far more noble than your own.

Your "evidence", "su****ions" or whatever I shall call it about the DB/Omni link wasnt really ment for me was it? Nontheless I think its rubbish.

[joshuacrime]

Problem with this is that its mostly wordtwisters like you who see Mr.Zora`s statement like this. If you could for once drag your old mug out of the conspiracy/aversion/deceit helmet and simply read a statement and take it for what it is you would se it aswell.
Unfortunately, I am fully aware that it will never happen.

No, and what Savoy and Ghostfeather try to do and fail, you are also attempting. I'm hardly a wordtwister, but I do have to be a bit proactive in my approach to events as they unfold. It's simply logical.

Just because someone say they will do all they can to keep things safe and punish the ones who agressively attack for no other reason than to do damage and hurt the fragile "peace" we share, doesnt mean they will attack and kill all clanners. Maybe it means that they will try to keep things safe and punish the agressive killers?
Yes, I do mean people like Simon Silverstone. He has proven all too many times what his goals are and how he means too pursuit them. Hopefully, your "allmighty" CoT will soon realize how much trouble he is about to bring them and banish him once and for all but I seriously, and sadly, dont see it happen.

No again, Naef old boy. That's not what I read into this at all. What I read into this is that Zora, being a soldier and no doubt well versed in his history of this planet, deems Clan to be the ones that are the rebels. From a seasoned OTRK perspective, you might understand him to be that way, in that we have had so many tumultuous events occur on the planet that muddies the political waters. However, Zora is not a veteran of this planet, and OT-Prime's take on this planet is that Clan are freeloaders and violators of their lease on this planet. Therefore, it is safe to conjecture then that Zora isn't going to just go after Simon with his Unicorns. He's coming after all of us, because we are depriving the corporation of "their" notum opportunities in the North.

You call him a murderer and a liar. How can you say that? He is/was a Unicorn and a successive one at that, but you have no idea what sort of actions have brought him to where he is today.
And where is he today? Not even on the planet and still you are screaming as if he had already nuked the hell out of the northern parts of the planet. Give it a rest... Its just not impressive any more.

No once again, Naef old boy. You know nothing about elite military formations, but I do. And in those types of units, once you belong, you always belong, and you always have affiliation to them long after you have left the active rosters. Trust me, Zora is a Unicorn, through and through. Did the Unicorns not threaten to level all of Newland City to get at one fugitive? Are we forgetting something, Naef? You see, I need very few examples of an organizations behaviour to make up my mind about them, and I can see that the Unicorns are a highly-trained, elite and disciplined group of soldiers that will hesitate at nothing and do anything at all that will allow them to complete their missions given them by their masters. Since I have seen their handiwork, I know that is their modus operandi, and we'll be seeing much more of it in the days and weeks to come.

Maybe its a new clan-tactic? To scream in terror of what the CEO most likely will do then minutes later lining up behind Silverstone, like blind cattle, and charge into Omni Tek territory slaying all before you. Who are the drones? You sure you want Silverstone behind the controls? He is most certainly grasping after them for all his worth these days.....and winning aswell. Be aware of the beast wich is the clans these days. Your freedomfighters are gone. Now, your siding with profitmaking moguls wich will stop at nothing to maintain theyre steady income. That is what you are fighting for. Freedom was gained many years ago.

A Clan tactic to cry foul at a man that threatens to kill us all? Unprovoked, I might add. No, you will find that the statements made by Zora and the actions of Silverstone weren't all that far apart. I doubt one precipated the other, but you can never tell with OT and their intelligence spooks, can you? You are also conveniently forgetting that OT intel operators were busted in flagrante delicto sizing up Clan defenses, and those forces were traced and then dispatched. You don't get smoke without fire, and there was plenty of smoke here, old boy.

Slaying all before us? What a load of drek. I'm shocked that you are that ill-informed. The strike against 2HO was strategic and surgical. That is the Clan way. We don't kill innocents to fulfill our missions. What do the Unicorns do? Threaten to level entire populations of innocent civilians to get at one man. When you can decide to acknowledge the facts in your statements as tie-ins to what you're babbling about, then I will agree with you. But you don't. You're as ridiculous as Savoy and Ghostfeather are, and that's saying something.

Furthermore, old boy, as long as their is an organization like Omni-Tek out there that does not have representative forms of government for the people, there are always a need for people to fight and sometimes die for freedom. The despots of the universe only respond to one thing, and that is force. You see, under Phil, I bet we could have accomplished a limited autonomy regarding the political structure of the planet. Were that to have occured, I would have come back into the fold. But you see, now that never happen, because now you have a special operator in charge of a planet-wide corporation. They appoint who they need in power, and they need a soldier. Why? Because you are going to war with Clan. You are merely too blind or too much of a liar to admit it.

No, as long as totalitarian regimes still exist in this galaxy of ours, the tree of liberty will still need to be watered with the blood of patriots. The aphorism is as old as history itself, and still holds true today.