You CHOOSE freedom.

[subnaut]

Something su****ious is afoot indeed. Last night Kemlyan was taken hostage by various high-ranking Omni-Pol members accompanied by these Unicorn troops. The Unicorn troops themselves are massive and fearsome, making me gulp more than once as I wondered if they might perma-fry me.

A number of us clanners showed up to try and protect Kemlyan in ICC, but being a man of words and not action, Kemlyan cowered under the intimidating Unicorn troops and went with them. We swore we would fight to protect his freedom and quest to report truth; but we would not force him to remain free--for really is that freedom at all? He seemed disheartened and believed it was his only choice to go with them. Sadly, he might have been right.

Some of us followed him into Omni Trade, but when we arrived he was nowhere in sight. As I listened to the familiar warnings of the guards -- "Woolgatherer, you should not have come here." -- I thought to myself, Why should you have come here . Not just to Omni Trade, last night, but to the vaguer, more general, here .

I recalled the events of the day, how we had lost important land control areas in Mort. Two large sites, owned by powerful clans, fallen to hordes upon hordes of omnis. And it pains me to think much of this was due to lies of dissent and disunity among us. These lies and rumours are self-fulfilling prophecies. If we listen to them, we allow them to become true. If, for but one moment, we doubt the loyalties of a fellow clanner, we are no better than Kemlyan throwing away our freedoms, tucking tail, and allowing omni to escort us back to our shackles in the mines.

Just as we told Kemlyan last night, we will not force anyone to be free. If the time has at last come when clanners want to give into the lies and deceit of omni propagandha, I won't hold you back. I won't stoop to the level of my enemies and force decisions upon you. But...if you still want to be free, if you want to fight for the freedom and privileges you enjoy as such, CLAN will be there for you, and CLAN will fight for you. And if you doubt that, or if you wouldn't do the same, omni has already won.

[kranden]

Never give up hope Wool. We fight for freedom from this hell we call home. We fight to live freely, not just for us but for the ones who will come after us. Even if we never see true freedom one day many people will look back on on and say. "We owe everything we have now to thoes brave warriors of the past" If you loose hope than you might as well give yourself up to Omni-tek Now. Join the fight for freedom! join the clans!

[SneakyPax]

Originally posted by Kranden
... Even if we never see true freedom one day many people will look back on on and say. "We owe everything we have now to thoes brave warriors of the past" If you loose hope than you might as well give yourself up to Omni-tek Now. Join the fight for freedom! join the clans!

Yippie yay! Wow Kranden - excellent speech you got me somewhat convinced. *chuckles* Join the clans and start dreaming a dream about freedom that'll never come true... get a life! You see... while back then when some of your worthless, lazy-butted ancestors crawled out of the mines and decided to make a ruckus - they already lost the fight. Now, centuries later you still believe you got the speck of chance. I'm wondering when you're going to face the real truth - that you're doomed to lose the fight - it's inevitable.

[Sunchen]

Well said, Wool. I, too, hope that one day every clanner will see beyond the lies Omni spread to disunite us. It is only when we stand together and trust in each other, when we set aside our differences and have faith in each other, only then we can truly win our freedom from Omni.

[citadel535]

Clan lies again fill the air. How many times do you recall a Omni attack on a fellow Omni ICC notum field. I can recall plenty of Clan versus Clan.

By going clan you do not choose freedom, you choose chaos. Omni-Tek legally acquired rights to Rubi-ka and clans are illegally fighting that - it's that simple. Remember though that you can wake the beast if you keep poking it as you 'clan' have found out for the past few battles.

[subnaut]

Originally posted by Meldaeyn
Omni-Tek legally acquired rights to Rubi-ka

If by "legally acquired" you mean by removing evidence of Notum from the reports you gave to the ICC surveyors who were unable to investigate the planet themselves due to storms which Omni-Tek likely conjured up.

[kranden]

Kranden reloads his gun and heads to Rome

"Time to go hunting"

[Edussair]

"By going clan you do not choose freedom, you choose chaos."- Meldaeyn

That is untrue. Clan is not made up of one single entity but numerous persons and organizations with differences in opinion or ideals with how Omni-tek can be brought to understand that Clan just wants to be left alone. Freedom is also a self-held ideal. What one person may consider freedom another maybe consider slavery. Our forefathers signed themselves to the Omni-tek Corporation not their descendents. Truly, if persons wish to be a part of Omni-tek that is there choice but to force people that don't support your ideals just makes people angry and belligerent. When the Corporation understands that maybe peace may be sued for. Here is a question for the people of the Corporation: If the Corporation wishes to be my friend then why not allow me the way I wish to think?

[Naefen]

Originally posted by Meldaeyn


By going clan you do not choose freedom, you choose chaos.

This is true to the core. Omni Tek represents law and the clans represent chaos. Chaos meaning multiple "clan-laws" over-ruling eachother. In my mind this kind of multiple-law system the clans follow is a sure way to decide never to have total peace. There must be an agreement between several parts about what the law is before peace can be acomplished. Omni Tek, who represent one law (though some departments are milder than others), represent one such entity who have the course to peace set out. I follow Omni Tek because its the only way to total and utter peace in the end.

Agent Nick Noodle

[Edussair]

The Council of Truth is our answer to this "multiple law system" as you call it. True, there are many different belief systems and/or opinions voiced but there has not been an actual law system except between the self-governing organizations. The first Council of Truth was obstructed due to Omni-tek influence. How else will we govern ourselves if we do not wish to be a part of Omni-tek? The Council of Truth is working toward an overall understanding of what Clan wants...to be left alone and be governed by their own. Chaos involves having a state of utter confusion. I assume this state of confusion to a person from Omni-tek would not understand that differences of opinion do not preclude a state of confusion. What it does mean is that others opinions and/or belief systems are being heard and taken into account...can Omni-tek accept this?

You forget you have two different governments. What may be law to one may not be to the other. There CAN be treaties with agreements such as mutual cease-fires and peace accords. On no account have agreements ever been forced on one side to adopt the law systems of a different body of government. Omni-tek first needs to recognize that a significant portion of Rubi-Ka is under Clan control...when will they bureaucracy wake up and understand Clan are not going to go away by force?

Peace yes but under chafing restrictions, by a select few, appointed only by those in power with no real understanding of the larger picture. Omni-tek sees most things in black and white sooner or later they need to understand that their are many shades of grey and that they far outweigh the amount of black and white. Unity is to be aspired to but forced unity is tyrannical in the extreme.

[Raydente]

The Council of Truth sounds very idealistic effort to bring up the diplomatic entity and start the negotiations with Omni-Tek for peace etc. But after the disband of former Council and now the reform of a new one, one can only think that is the Council really representing ALL clans?

Let me elaborate. The Council of Truth is supposed to be the closest entity of what the clans can offer to negotiate within the diplomatic channels with the outside world. But yet there are clans who use this "Freedom" to stay apart from the council and live in their own ways and thus not follow the guidelines of the "all-clan" council. If the council ever is going to get any respect from the other parties involved in this Rubi-Kan conflict, they really need to find a way to unite the Clans and make them have once voice instead of 1 and few others (ie council decides they won't attack tower fields legally owned by Omni-Tek but yet few clans who are not in the council decide to do so)

So what i think of this "multiple law system" is, that the sole purpose of it is to put council to make laws and yet give the other clans not part of the council a permission to break them, all legally in the name of this great "Freedom" clans claim to fight for.

[Naefen]

The CoT, as Raydente says, does not represent even 1/3 of the clans as a whole. Hopefully the majority of clans will support the council in time but to be honest that is very unlikely.

Also, Ive been told on several ocasions that the council wont "rule" the clans. They will only advice. And so they will have no power in the end over what different clans will do.

So again. I see no future in peace for the clans. To many leaders, to many different clan-laws and to many different opinions. Maybe what you want is Rubi Ka divided between 1000 clans? Im not so sure they would agree on very much.

[Pysgod1978]

Not completely true.While some disagreements may arise between Clans and their leaders,they are mostly solved by diplomatic solutions.I have noticed that several of your ommer corporations have tended to fight one another as of late.Care to comment on that?

[Naefen]

Well that depends what Omni departments you are talking about now doesnt it?

[subnaut]

Doesn't your readiness to peg this on a few departments prove how internally factionalized you are?

And while Clan is certainly diverse in our opinions and personalities, it is this very same banner of freedom which we unite under.

[Farmacist]

Factionalized or not, Omni-Tek citizens all work for the umbrella corporation. Some disputes may arise within our ranks only because we all strive to better our company and sometimes our overzealousness takes the better of us and we lose temper. A 2-3 day gettaway at Lush Hills Resort restores our sences. Then of course there is the occasional random flyby attack by a fellow employee all because they forget to turn off their damage shield. Omni-Tek is not perfect, but we strive to be.

[Edussair]

Admittedly Council of Truth really is an idealistic effort to bring about a diplomatic way to come to understanding. Most wars are fought because of or for an ideal. Our greatest heros hold a a sacred ideal to themselves and took action where it was required. The problem with the Council of Truth is that even though the organizations represented and signing a cease-fire there will be those that will not want to sign. This freedom is what makes Clan...Clan respectively. When you understand what the CoT is trying to do it is one of the few ways that a large portion of Clan may be heard. Unfortunately, since there are organizations and persons that do not wish to support CoT the people that are a part of it can at least negotiate for a cease-fire with those organizations. This means that the negotiating that CoT may do can only be as effective as the amount of people/organizations represented. If they do not, that is their decision, but they must understand that CoT will not help with any subversion or intrusion plans once the treaty is made.

Setting up a law system is time consuming to say the least. Certain Clan organizations are willing to do this but the more militant groups do not. What both sides fails to realize in order to give something you must give something up there is no all or nothing. What may be important to one may not be so important to another. The likelihood of any sort of rule system being set up is if Clan is able to speak about what is wanted. Unfortunately, I do have to agree with you on Clan uniting as one...it is possible but unlikely that it will ever happen because of someone always feeling like the odd man out or feeling strongly about an ideal. Clan can only govern as much as it is allowed by the people which is both our weakness and strength.

There are bad apples on both sides...some worse then others. These persons/organizations care nothing for the consequences for their actions yet when they do act it is blamed on the whole. Clan has come up with a way to attempt to fix the severe factionalizing of Clan. In order for it to do its work it needs help and responses from the people its trying to help without them only those represented will get heard.

[Naefen]

Originally posted by Woolgatherer

And while Clan is certainly diverse in our opinions and personalities, it is this very same banner of freedom which we unite under.

Your banner of "freedom" is buried long ago. There are no shackles on the clans anymore. Hence, the clans have no purpose other than criminal activity and un-restricted notum mining. The "freedom" you so eagerly await have been won many years ago. The opressed miners are out and free. Those who work in mines today do so of theyre own free will. The clans are, modern days, nothing but greedy people clinging to the power they aquired for themselfs while there were actually something to fight for.
It is time to face the truth and do the right thing. Want a life of peace? Want back to the right side of the fence? Want away from criminals and thiefes?
Then........ You CHOOSE Omni Tek.

[Edussair]

As much as I may respect your opinion I am a bit hurt by your generalization of Clan. "a banner of 'freedom' is buried long ago" - Naefen, the idea of having a single most important ideal has held Clan together even at its rockiest. Omni-tek can't or won't understand that Clan is not like the Corporation...there is no one voice. We listen to even the lowest person on the totem pole so to speak and that everyone has equal say. No, not all Clan agrees with militant organizations methods. Blaming all of Clan for a couples bad judgement. I will admit that their our some on Clan that do the exact same thing about generalizing and even I have to stop myself from doing that. It doesn't make it right on either side. Since you are on the Diplomatic Commission may I suggest that we look to ourselves and clean up both of our respective sides acts? If Omni-tek is truly as peaceful as you say then wouldn't the Omni-tek Diplomatic Corps be trying every possible means BUT war with Clan? As being part of Clan I would be greatly appreciative of a response to these questions and assume that I would at least recieve a greater understanding of where Omni-tek is trying to come from.

[Naefen]

The Diplomatic Commision of Rubi Ka is about bringing the "little" man`s voice up to the Directors of our grand company. We aim to help the leaders better understand the employees wants and wishes. Hope that clarify some.

And yes. The Diplomatic Commision of Rubi Ka, in line with Omni Tek`s rules, try every solution other than war. But that is really not our table. We are here for the common, everyday Omni employee.