Request for Info: Bugs

[Rahmorak]

Howdy,

As you may have noticed if you read the other prof forums, Cz is currently going through the bugs list making sure all the reported bugs are logged.

Some additional infro is required on the following, so if anyone can help please do:


BUG: Perk specials that need the target to be already running a perk special do not seem to be working from the Theoretical Research line. Quark Containment Field cannot be followed up by the special Sabotage Quark Field that engies/traders get, thus the next special on the TR line we also cannot use.

Please can you verify that this is an issue when both target selectors are on the desired MOB for both specials. (i.e. that fighting target and nano target are both set to MOB X)


9. BUG: When layers runs off on a DoT, i.e. poison dot that does 315 damage (when the absorption has run out you take double damage so 630 in this case).

Can someone verify that this still happens, I was unable to reproduce with Adonis DoT.

If it _does_ still happen can you tell me what DoT was used and if the effect is:

a) a one off double-damage from the DoT that kills the layer

b) a one off double-damage from the DoT AFTER the layer is gone

c) all damage after the layers are gone


10. BUG: Internal Combustion nano shows incorrect upload requirements (matter meta) but shows correct use requirements (matter creation). Please fix this.

If someone has this can you please confirm this is still the case (and possibly send me a tell with a ref). Jayde's shows the correct use req of MC.


13. BUG: When nuking and a fumble occurs, taunt is still calculated with nanos like IEF, etc.

Is this only for nanos like IEF with a debuff or for all nanos?


[*]BUG: Nano Vulnerability special on Notum Source line (Notum Overflow) not working correctly. (not checked with latest patch)

This is the same code as the END %damage increase that was fixed last patch. Can someone please verify whether or not this is working or if it is still bugged?

Thanks Rahmo.

[Phinger]

Notum Source line final perk specail Notum Overflow Nano vun doesnt work. Still have it trained. see no increase in min damage when it is running.

But it does give a nice blue effect on mob for 60 secs.

Phinger

[Rahmorak]

Originally posted by Fingers
Notum Source line final perk specail Notum Overflow Nano vun doesnt work. Still have it trained. see no increase in min damage when it is running.

But it does give a nice blue effect on mob for 60 secs.

Phinger

Thanks and wb.

[____________Jeremiah]

Originally posted by Rahmorak
BUG: Perk specials that need the target to be already running a perk special do not seem to be working from the Theoretical Research line. Quark Containment Field cannot be followed up by the special Sabotage Quark Field that engies/traders get, thus the next special on the TR line we also cannot use.

Yes i can confirm its simply not working anyway, hell I even tried targetting myself and my team mate

[Shadehawk]

Originally posted by Rahmorak
9. BUG: When layers runs off on a DoT, i.e. poison dot that does 315 damage (when the absorption has run out you take double damage so 630 in this case).

Can someone verify that this still happens, I was unable to reproduce with Adonis DoT.

If it _does_ still happen can you tell me what DoT was used and if the effect is:

a) a one off double-damage from the DoT that kills the layer

b) a one off double-damage from the DoT AFTER the layer is gone

c) all damage after the layers are gone

Aye! Happens all the time, with every DoT casted on me and on all the layers I've been able to use so far (the first 3).
And in my view it's only b) that seems to be in effect.

Since it happens all the time (to me anyway), I actually tought it was supposed to be that way (i.e. some sort of "punishment" for using a layer).

[Delerium]

Originally posted by Rahmorak
9. BUG: When layers runs off on a DoT, i.e. poison dot that does 315 damage (when the absorption has run out you take double damage so 630 in this case).

Can someone verify that this still happens, I was unable to reproduce with Adonis DoT.

If it _does_ still happen can you tell me what DoT was used and if the effect is:

a) a one off double-damage from the DoT that kills the layer

b) a one off double-damage from the DoT AFTER the layer is gone

c) all damage after the layers are gone

Can confirm this is still ingame. Almost killed me at hollow island. 700 dot gone in layer, next dot tick 1400 damage. Refresh layer a few times without noticing it in the spam and hp disapperas fast.
Seem to remember the higher dot's running double damage as the killed the layers on the first tick. 1000 dot = 1300 damage

some dots also run even though you are in NS. don't know if that is intentional or not, but have been killed by the great ice golem a few times by getting a monster short dot, ns'ing and the dot still ticks away.

[Byrn]

Originally posted by Rahmorak
9. BUG: When layers runs off on a DoT, i.e. poison dot that does 315 damage (when the absorption has run out you take double damage so 630 in this case).

Hi guys,

Would really appreciate specifics on this one - I have been totally unable to reproduce it.

If possible, things that would be useful are:

• Does it occur only in PvM or PvP (or both)?
• Where were you at the time? (Suppression gas % if PvP?)
• Name of DoT and Layers used if you can (I know *I* forget which of the 400 DoTs were running on me :P)
• If it was PvM, which mob ran it on you?

Any additional info you can give will be helpful really, many thanks.

[Shadehawk]

Originally posted by Byrn
If possible, things that would be useful are:

• Does it occur only in PvM or PvP (or both)?
• Where were you at the time? (Suppression gas % if PvP?)
• Name of DoT and Layers used if you can (I know *I* forget which of the 400 DoTs were running on me :P)
• If it was PvM, which mob ran it on you?

Any additional info you can give will be helpful really, many thanks.

Ok, I'll try to do some "propper" testing (i.e. jot down a few notes when it happens), but here are a few things:
I only PvM and mostly in missions, so it happens during indor missions vs. mobs, and as far as I am concerned it has happened when using every layer I've been able to use so far, and for every DoT cast on me, and thus it's been done by every type of mob able to cast a DoT. I may be wrong of course, so I'll start taking notes.
If you want to you could tag along on a mission or two, and observe it.

However, I am also severly hampered by the instant-cast-nano-delay bug introduced in 15.4 (i.e. all nanos takes between 0.5 to 1 sec longer to cast), and Cz told me that you have problems recreating it on test, so maybe it's just me that's been very unlucky!

[Delerium]

Originally posted by Byrn
If possible, things that would be useful are:

• Does it occur only in PvM or PvP (or both)?
• Where were you at the time? (Suppression gas % if PvP?)
• Name of DoT and Layers used if you can (I know *I* forget which of the 400 DoTs were running on me :P)
• If it was PvM, which mob ran it on you?

Any additional info you can give will be helpful really, many thanks.

[*]Hollow Island[*]I was using fleeting immunity, no idea what the dot name the champions use is. Could reproduce it every time i got dot'ed[*]Got them from the various Tier Champions.

[Shadehawk]

Haven't played that much lately, but here's what I've found.
I'm using Collapsing Barrier. My level is 131. The data has been collected in indoor missions in BS. QL 130 - 160.

Cellular dismantlement:
Hit for 290, 273 (shield gone), then 563.

Greater su****ious death:
Hit for 89, 89 ... 29 (shield gone), then 118 (on three occations) and 139 on one.

Mobs where docs and agenst.

[Byrn]

Originally posted by Rahmorak
13. BUG: When nuking and a fumble occurs, taunt is still calculated with nanos like IEF, etc.

Is this only for nanos like IEF with a debuff or for all nanos?

It's for all nanos that taunt.. and it's not a bug; the behaviour is apparently desired (I've been told twice now -- "it's like shooting and missing").

[arcvile]

Refreshing Aura's Still prevent nano casting

[silars]

I believe I ran into the same problem Del did at Hollow Island. Everyone got a chuckle as the NM NT goes "DoT!"...then dies. Of course, me waiting for the DoT to expire before asking for some healing didn't help.

I have also had this problem fighting spirits right outside Scheol Ergo. Eats the layers for 330 damage...once layers out...660 damage. Can't remember the exact damage but those are close. Can't remember the DoT name either.

I always use Fleeting Immunity.

[Delerium]

A little more info on the dot on layers bug. Just finished killing the golem, and promptly got a 630 point dot.. was looking like this when i was chain layering. Dot tick to fast to keep layers up btw.

You absorbed 630 points of poison damage
You absorbed 95 points of poison damage
You were attacked by 725 points of poinson damage
You absorbed 630 points of poison damage
You absorbed 95 points of poison damage
You were attacked by 725 points of poinson damage

Interesting thing here is..
When layers run out the final little bit of damage the layers actually absorbed when running out are added to the damage from the same dot tick instead of getting subtracted.

This means the damage of the dot tick that actually kills your layers will have variable damage added to the dot damage itself depending on how much your layers were supposed to absorb.

Here you go FC, sollution to the layers+dot bug.

[Rahmorak]

NICE Info, thanks!

[Shadehawk]

Originally posted by Del
Interesting thing here is..
When layers run out the final little bit of damage the layers actually absorbed when running out are added to the damage from the same dot tick instead of getting subtracted.

This means the damage of the dot tick that actually kills your layers will have variable damage added to the dot damage itself depending on how much your layers were supposed to absorb.

Here you go FC, sollution to the layers+dot bug.

Yes, that is usually correct, but not always! I thought that was the case, so I paid attention to it, but it didn't always happen. I also had a few instances of not getting any extra damage.

[Delerium]

happened on 2 other champions at Hollow Island just now.

350 point dot.....
350 absorbed
350 absorbed
25 absorbed
375 damage
etc...

And the worst of them all... 800 point dot
725 absorbed
1525 damage

[silars]

That's the one I saw at Hollow Island, Del.

Ripped me a new one. Of course, I kept refreshing layers. I guess I just suck it up next time. Hope a doc is paying attention .

What a glorious bug this is....

-Silars

[Triskweline]

This happened to me recently with omni atrox SB.. the dot was hitting me for 1475 dmg + 725 each layer.

I think it's supposed to "only" be 1k.

[Maxnano]

Hey guys,

duno if u have this one allready, bu twhenever i "Fall" from SL, i useually become unable to cast fold to wa or fold to tir,

seems to happen a lot now, and relogging doesnt fix it, i think it only fixes once you die

anyone else get it ?