Toolbar/Hotbar changes!

**Rohcysp** · Feb 24th, 2004, 01:15:53

Hey,

I have seen this issue discussed before here and there, but to be honest I think we need a much more simple solution (design wise) to our concerns then a total redesign of the bar (toolbar/hotbar). I don't believe what is proposed below would require such a radical overhaul. However, I have been wrong before and only the FC coders really know.

I hate to use another game to demonstrate what I am getting at, but it is the best example I could find right now and it is quite close to how the bar in AO is setup.

Check the bar on the right hand side of the screen.

As for how the bar works in HZ (screenshot)... It is basically identical to how the bar works in AO, with the exception that multiple instances can be created of the same bar. This allows the user to display up to 10 instances (#0-9 on the AO bar) of the "same" bar on their screen, either vertically and/or horizontally.

Hopefully this is something I am not alone in feeling strongly about. I don't expect anything radical here. Lets just build on what is in AO already.

**Cyprux** · Feb 24th, 2004, 01:58:30

yeah, its time for a change

**Morphex** · Feb 24th, 2004, 02:00:06

Bump

**_Bonk_** · Feb 24th, 2004, 02:12:17

Horizons has the best interface in the industry. Its too bad their pve game is so sucky

I think that AO should have two rows on their toolbar just like SWG and Horizons have.

This would make me so happy

**Fairin** · Feb 24th, 2004, 02:30:41

OMG MY ARM OWWWW!

ok ok bump then.

but really would be nice to have a working interface.

**___________Leviathan** · Feb 24th, 2004, 04:06:37

Agree 100%, having the same issue beta testing Lineage2... single hotkey bar just dosnt cut it sometimes. An agent especially could use the multiple instance hotbar in alot of cases at a high lvl..

FC should most defo consider this an option as really it is only like Psy said.. building on what is already there, not a full revamp.

**cal201** · Feb 24th, 2004, 06:25:17

i also played horizons, i truly did like the multiple instances of the hotbar... good call

**Windowlicker** · Feb 24th, 2004, 09:15:47

The hotbar in its current state was developed for a game without perks.

The game now has perks, the old hotbar needs to be changed to reflect that.

**Satenia** · Feb 24th, 2004, 09:54:31

Make it resizable!

**_________Chaosengine** · Feb 24th, 2004, 10:30:33

Bump - limted number of icons is not good for gameplay!

**Kyriell** · Feb 24th, 2004, 11:28:44

100% agree !

BUMP for multiple instances.

**elwooder** · Feb 24th, 2004, 15:32:40

Predicament posted a nice suggestion for a new toolbar not long ago

**Rohcysp** · Feb 24th, 2004, 16:14:50

Originally posted by elwooder
Predicament posted a nice suggestion for a new toolbar not long ago

Hey El. I did read that before I started this thread, but what he proposes would require a more work coding and design wise then just allowing for multiple instances - imo. This doesn't mean establishing instances would be cake, but it would hopefully be less work. Also, the design in the other post is locked at 2 rows of bar. With instances you could have 10 rows of 10 icons if you wanted.

**Crysantimum** · Feb 24th, 2004, 19:25:34

The HZ bar looks like two independant bars, I like that.

No need to stop there, if you can have one optional extra bar, why not make the numbers of optional bars optional?

The ability to use hotkeys for all the bars would only last to a certain point, but to customize your visual 'reach' for the simple mouseclick is also an improvement.

**Rohcysp** · Feb 24th, 2004, 21:36:12

Originally posted by Crysantimum
The HZ bar looks like two independant bars, I like that.

No need to stop there, if you can have one optional extra bar, why not make the numbers of optional bars optional?

The ability to use hotkeys for all the bars would only last to a certain point, but to customize your visual 'reach' for the simple mouseclick is also an improvement.

There are actually not multiple independent bars. Instead what you see in the screenshot is simply instantiations of the original bar. What this means is that you would (i.e.) fill up the standard AO bar (i.e. lets says all 100 icon slots) and when you make a new bar it simply would be displaying one of the rows (of 10 icons) from the original bar that you filled. The bars are essentially all linked to the original. This would actually require less work then most other solutions I have seen proposed, but I am making some coding assumptions here on FC's part.

The beauty of this system is that if you just want a single bar you can have it, but if you want 2-10 bars you can also have it.

**______________Ruined** · Feb 25th, 2004, 15:28:15

bumpz0rz more space for stuff would be schweet.

**Naski** · Feb 27th, 2004, 05:37:32

bump

AO toolbars overlapping each other
As I play in window mode all the time when I buy somthing from vendor I can hardly click accept or cancel button and scroll down, since this new interface overlapping the butom part of that window. Also this new little map which u can resize now, if u open some other window, like your nanos for example, it somehow closes it. Also I have all my perks specials on my second line of hotbar and when I die or relog I have to replace them all over again, cause I cant use those anymore, says "Action not available" but the picture is still same. Also would like to see separated damage and social chats.

>^..^<

**Stryk1** · Feb 29th, 2004, 09:22:49

bump!!!
You can take our Grid Armor but u can never take our toolbars!

**___________Lazyhound** · Feb 29th, 2004, 16:34:57

Might I also suggest makeing them mousewheel-scrollable?

**Furiousspeed** · Feb 29th, 2004, 18:23:40

and how about somethig where I can anchor the action bars on the other side of screen?

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