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Thread: Omni Shadowbreeds

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    Omni Shadowbreeds

    What is the reason omni shadowbreeds are so immensly powered compared to clan shadowbreeds. The argument that the AE roots and nukes + 2k dmg shield on omni shadowbreed is to balance the numbers isnt a valid reason. Clan shadowbreeds can counter it, if lag wasnt an issue but it is. and the root break on clan Shadowbreeds doesnt even work. In fact Most times im at a war it seems there are more omni than clan there....atleast caterwaul isnt side only.

    Why is it like this?
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  2. #2
    As you said, doesn't make sense at all. The word 'overpowered' comes to mind for some strange reason.
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  3. #3
    This sheild is so over powered in towerwars that clan can forget showing up. I say remove the sheild in PvP or remove Towerwars.
    I got hit by 2 K of sheild damage 7 times and was down after that. Not one single omni had attacked me at this time.
    With the lag issues we have in towerbattles it is impossible to stop the attack befor you are dead.


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  4. #4
    make SB SL only .

  5. #5
    2k damageshield AOE is too powerfull compared to the lousy clan ones. How come omni SBs are offensive(nuke, root, shield) and Clanners are defensive(heal, layers)?

  6. #6
    Originally posted by TeffaMA
    make SB SL only .
    Yeah my Idea aswell. As it is now SB is fecking up every pvp at both towers and camelot.

  7. #7
    I think anyone can see that a 2k Dmg shield AE for 30 seconds, is slightly overpowered when it comes to Tower battles

    "you can just not hit back" all well and good, but if you look at it, it gives Omni 30 seconds of time to just charge and bowl over clanners

    also with lag, anyone whos silly enough to shoot, will die!

    Clan do get an AE heal, but in comparrison, it does not give your side 30 seconds of invinsiblity,

    and if theres more than 1 omni nanomage (which there normally is) they can do this over and over untill clanners give up because of this

    Clan nanomage = same as omni except for NO damage shield,
    Both does AE nano init, and nano gain

    so why does the omni one get a 2k dmg shield AE 25 m for 30 seconds?

    nice work! saw it play out today, its simply unfair, this issue should be addressed

  8. #8
    clan chars 201+ on all dimensions: 1714

    omni chars 201+ on all dimensions: 1463


    thats nearly 20% more players.

    not saying it's a justified reason for such an advantage, just giving a possible reason.
    Last edited by Raynefists; Mar 5th, 2004 at 18:58:01.
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  9. #9
    Clan and omni SB should be the same. Only breeds should affect what it does.

    And dont give clan the SB that omni has in order to balance it because we dont want PvP to be ruined because of it.

    Remove 2k damage-shields all together. Replace it with something else because nanomage SB are weak without that. Add an absorb-shield intead of damageshield.

    Anything but 2k shield.
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  10. #10
    Wouldn't making it SL only bring back this problem when/if they open up the SL bases?
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    {Off-topic. Removed by Cz.}
    Last edited by Cz; Mar 10th, 2004 at 13:31:24.

  12. #12
    Originally posted by TeffaMA
    make SB SL only .
    I agree 100%.

    as too Okkra's post about it becoming an issue when SL's bases come out, I don't think SL's will ever be able to hold towers. SL's lags enough with almost no people around. Don't think towers battles will really ever happen there

  13. #13
    Originally posted by Tychi


    I agree 100%.

    as too Okkra's post about it becoming an issue when SL's bases come out, I don't think SL's will ever be able to hold towers. SL's lags enough with almost no people around. Don't think towers battles will really ever happen there
    There is no room for towers there either.

    There is like 2 square feet of SL thats flat enough to contain towers and 1 of those 2 square feets contain mobs
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  15. #15
    Oh i agree on SB being Shadowlands only but the omni NM Still needs some adjustments

    oh i wonder what would happen if 6 nanomages runs into camelot boxroom and fires up all their shadowbreeds at the same time..

    And SL towerbattles will come i think, so.. something needs to be done imo.

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  16. #16
    The omni Shadow breeds are crazy silly overpowerd. ITs like running into a brick wall at Tower wars. Head first.
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  17. #17

    ...

    fully aggree !!!

    bump patk....

  18. #18
    Let me remind you its not "the" Omni Shadowbreeds. Have a look at the Opi one, it sucks also. But your certainly right about the omni NM one, its just silly.
    SBs should be disabled for now, until they are at least halfway balanced. Also, runspeed, concealment and similar stuff shouldnt be ( essential ) part of a shadowbreed, if everyone is hardcapped on rusnspeed anyway and concealment is broken.

  19. #19
    Either remove SB on RK or nerf omni NM SB.
    Current situation is NOT acceptable

  20. #20
    Bump as the omni SBs in NW are just sick and completly out of any balance.

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