Symbiants for Adventurers

[Gothy]

I thought I'd post my current (current being the keyword, there will be some upgrades in the future of quality level but my type preference won't change) symbiants to make a slight comparison with Glara's to show a midhighlevel to highlevel range advies setup.

http://auno.org/ao/equip.php?saveid=10996

I'm a bit to0 lazy to post step by step, so I'll post the reasons why my symbiants are different wherever they differ from Glara's <3.

Eye, ear, rightarm, rightwrist, left and right hand are the same.

First of all, my brain is a support. Can first off use the addition of the nanoskills the int/psy give. Sense is always a bonus (adds ranged weapon skill and helps with armor). Ranged init which is imo the only benefit of Artillery is kind of useless atm (1076 selfed ranged init with 15% crit scope in, so still 1/1 on full def.) The nano init, nanopo0l, nanoresist and max nano are all useful in regards to our final heal, Beauty of Life. And as we have ugly dark blue NR, the more NR we get the better (especially if you're a pvper).

For chest I've finally settled on Artillery. My main reasons being it adds Str, Sta, and Sense. It has with it the nanoskills and hp mods that are also must haves. So I went for attribute trickle down when deciding here (6-7months ago I used infantry or support) as to get trickle down adds to pistol and more importantly fullauto.

The main reason I went support in my left arm rather than infantry was the choice of add off or nano cost reduce. While I am very adequately served in the AR modification department, I lack in the healing. So I decided to work with my head symb and go support to better support beauty of life.

Artillery waist, 100%. Fullauto being the main reason. Second is the agility and stamina modifiers, evades and max hp.

I still havent decided on whether or not to switch my implant for infantry or not. The small modification of plus damage is tantalizing as well as the shielding. But I'm lazy and can't decide if it's worth giving up the nanoresist or not.

I picked Artillery for my thigh. Evades, agility, and runspeed. Hell the damn thing has adventuring to0.

Infantry fo0t for the same reasons you stated. And of course the agility (trickle++) and evades.

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So if you couldn't see, the differences mainly come when the things you'd prefer other symbiants for are no longer necessary (ie adventuring or some other skill you naturally acquire without bo0sting) and therefore allowing you to make a choice to either increase your damage or your survivability.

[Gelanin]

Guess i'll add my thoughts to this aswell, since i have a few things that are different from Gothy.

Here is my current symbiant setup:
http://www.aodb.info/implantconfig.aspx?Load=2026


As you can see, there are a few places my setup are different from Gothys, and i'll type down why i choose as i did.

Eye
Artillery eye vs Exterminator Occular Enhancement.

I'll gladly admit it was a hard choice between ql300 arty eye or the 270 occular. In the end i landed on the occular for the following reasons.

3% Crit
+63 to Full Auto, Burst and Fling
vs
CL, Treatment, MR and Nanoskills (SI/MC/TS)

Loosing SI nanoskills is a pain, because atm i cannot do the top morphs without moochie + wrangle. Loosing CL/Treatment/MR is no biggie, since i dont need either of them atm.

So it was a hard choice, and i'm not 100% certain i've made the best choice, but i'm sticking with it for now, and i do think it is the best choice from a purely damage-perspective.


Chest
Artillery vs Support Chest.

In my case, this was an easy choice.
I get more nanopool, faster regen, and i get some nano init, i loose a bit of strength, which would have given me a very small (and insignificant for my setup) trickledown and i loose smg and b&e, both of which are useless to me.


Left-Wrist
Implant vs Support.

This was a semi-hard choice, but i think Nano-Resist was more important than what the other symbiant types would give me, and i could get in a much higher QL support symbiant than the other types.


Leg
Artillery vs Infantry

This was also one of the spots i spent alot of time argueing back and forth with myself, before i finally landed on Infantry.

The only things the Artillery leg would give me over the Infantry ones are Agility and Runspeed. Agility is very important for Pistol-users, but since i am opifex, i have no problems with 300 chosen or such even without agility in the leg. So what i would loose would be trickledown into Pistol.

What i would gain from choosing infantry was some points better damage shields, and the most important point for me, a better heal-delta, body dev, and some stamina for trickledown into burst/full auto/body dev.
Is there a clear winner here ?, probably not, but i did put heal-delta/body dev > Agility for now.

Left-Hand
Artillery vs Infantry.

Both of these symbiants basicly sucks, but since the only good/useful thing on artillery symbiant is damage-shield, and the infantry one has more damage-shield types, i went with infantry.

Skill-Lock might be worth it on the artillery one, but i havent tested it since before the skill-lock nerf, so not sure how well and what it actually affects any longer.

[Awikun]

I would be very gratefull if you could enlighten me how did you equip that eye???
3 x 1260 requirement looks impossible for me
I am lev 220 and yet I am nowhere close to equip it

[Gelanin]

I would be very gratefull if you could enlighten me how did you equip that eye???
3 x 1260 requirement looks impossible for me
I am lev 220 and yet I am nowhere close to equip it

Sure.

1) Perks (enhance dna + mountaineer + freak strength + primary + secondary genome)
2) Red Belt (+50 str/stam)
3) 2x Freedom Arms G2
4) 2x Str/Stam sleeves
5) Implants (for the str)
6) Rings + Chosen Gloves (for sense primarily)
7) Buffs (prod str+behemoth + gen buff + fg + es)

And thats about it i think....

It might not be possible to equip unless you're Opifex though, but i havent checked/calced.

The way i used to equip my ql 300 (and others) symbiants was just using excel, write down what you got, what you need to get, then start searching the database for items, perks , implants/symbs, nanos that gives the abilitys/skills you need, until you find the correct combination that will give you what you need.

[Awikun]

thx for reply
Unfortunatelly I am not opifex and I am also Neut which makes my life a bit more difficult for me.

[Sannie]

----8x------8x---------8x-------
Thigh (Leg)
Thigh Symbiant, Artillery Unit Aban
Thigh Symbiant, Infantry Unit Aban
Thigh Symbiant, Support Unit Aban

This is a tough one. Artillery has XP, Infantry has Melee Init and some extra damage shield, as well as Body Dev, and support has Skill Lock and Inturrupt Modifiers as well as shield. This one I can't judge as it really depends on your experience in SL. Atrox will want to lean to Infantry, but Skill Lock and Inturrupt Modifiers would be really useful if you find yourself tanking, but extra XP from Artillery Unit never hurts.
----8x------8x---------8x-------

I would definitely go for artillery or support symbiant for leg, only because of Agility buff on them. Tier armors requires pretty much agi to equip and would really be nice to get it on fairly early.

[Zorro]

Wow grats Gelanin that's some pretty insane twinking, didn't even know 300 symbiants were equipable. O.o

[elmgaard]

I would definitely go for artillery or support symbiant for leg, only because of Agility buff on them. Tier armors requires pretty much agi to equip and would really be nice to get it on fairly early.

For lower levels maybe, but tbh, chosen/faithfull isn't that good (cept for sleeves of course) at later lvls, I would chose bellum/alien armor over it most days of the week. (In other words: I'd be really drunk not to )

[Gelanin]

Wow grats Gelanin that's some pretty insane twinking, didn't even know 300 symbiants were equipable. O.o

Thanks!

It did take a few months of resetting perks and finally getting hold of a Power of the Muscle to pull it of, but i'm very happy with it.

Could (and perhaps should) have twinked on a r-hand and a l-hand aswell, but i was unable to find either of the symbiants i wanted while i was twinking, so i eventually gave up trying to find them and started resetting back.

[rotender]

yeah I was about to scream BULL**** when I finally took a look at that setup lol.

If you actually managed that, then that definitely deserves a nice big gratz!

[Octopuss]

that's some sick sh*t and im gonna get drunk.

[Niles]

Not to necro this one totally, but I am about to start implementing a lot of ql 250+ symbs, but the one that buggs me the most, is HEAD!

Trox adv 220 has some challenges I must say. I looked at 250 Support, and the req. of 1063 can JUST be made with ALL SORTS of Pande loot... I mean, all that adds intel and sense. If I test with ql 300 imps (in theory) i could just make it, with none to spare in intel, and 5 to spare in sense. BUT! This setup will take me like 6 months playing just to get pande loot...

So, I was thinking, nm, lets go Infantry. Next is 280, and there is NO WAY trox adv can get that in! Or is there? I'll be missing out in 39 in intel no matter what uber loot i accquire.

So, "just" go ql 260 artillery brain? That would be relatively easy to equip (some pande loot, but not that much).

I currently have a ql 240 supp brain. Is it worth the haggle? Any of u trox adv have any advice, or others that have any viewpoints? Wait for Lost Eden and pray?

[mephistobane]

wtg glara :P

[rotender]

So, "just" go ql 260 artillery brain? That would be relatively easy to equip (some pande loot, but not that much).

I currently have a ql 240 supp brain. Is it worth the haggle? Any of u trox adv have any advice, or others that have any viewpoints? Wait for Lost Eden and pray?

I'm not trox, but I'd say a 240 support is better than a 260 artillery...

[Beornin]

I currently have a ql 240 supp brain.

Where did you get a 240 supp brain from? TNH drop or misspelled?

[Katth]

I'd like to know where you got that one too

[Niles]

u are absolutely correct, it's a 230 supp brain... was at work when i wrote it, my mistake

[Beornin]

u are absolutely correct, it's a 230 supp brain... was at work when i wrote it, my mistake

I'd rather chose the possibility of finding a 240 supp brain ingame then being correct.

230 brain is equippable quite early. Think I put one in at 214 without medsuit or ability buffs.

[Awikun]

Sorry for necroing that post but:

- I have started to work on my final LE twink setup and this thread has a lot of usefull information

- Some newer advies may have missed that great post

- It is the best explanation why Glara has became Adv Professional

[Xombified]

why isn't this stickied/in guides list?