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Thread: CR/AP/TK Number Breakdown

  1. #1

    CR/AP/TK Number Breakdown

    I'm writing this to prove that Cellular Recup is a better heal nano then assauge pain. I'm not sure if its better then touch, but ill calculate that in this thread.

    Ok, the nanos are:
    Touch of Kindness - Heals the target of 1700-2300
    Assauge Pain - Heals the target of 1133-1533
    Cellular Recuperation - Heals the target of 952-1288

    Ok, im going to heal my target who is constantly damaged. Like an enf at a raid or tanking a heckler. So im not calculating overlapping damage. Meaning wasted heals.

    Im going to say that we cap our nano casting speed.

    Touch of Kindness - 500.00
    Assauge Pain - 333.25
    Cellular Recuperation - 266.67

    Ok, so heres the trick. Each SL heal has a temp hp buff, that gives hp and then heals the hp it has given. All these temp hp buff have a "Cannot be refreshed" tag, meaning if you cast BI on someone who already have the temp hp buff from BI (lasts 12 sec) he will not get it again. However, Cr does not have this flag. Meaning that if we heal for 60 seconds we are going to heal:

    CR:
    11 * 1120 + (11*1200) = 12320 + 13000 = 25520 heal total on 60 seconds.

    AP:
    12 * 1133 + (5*1300) = 13596 + 6500 = 20096 heal total on 60 seconds.

    TK:
    12 * 2000 + (5 * 1400) = 24000 + 7000 = 31000 heal total on 60 seconds.


    Conclusion:
    Stick to cellular recuperation, even at level 201.
    Last edited by Snowbunnie; Dec 2nd, 2004 at 20:07:16.
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  2. #2
    Wrong.

    CR was ninja-fixed. The CanNotRefresh flag is now present.
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  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Elucidate
    Wrong.

    CR was ninja-fixed. The CanNotRefresh flag is now present.

    It's working right now, i constantly heal 1200 extra each time i cast it
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  4. #4
    would be kind of sick that a lvl 175 heal outheals a 200+

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  5. #5
    Nice, they re-broke it.

    As of 15.7.0 it stopped refreshing, same with 15.7.1

    That's terrible. I call for a fix!
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  6. #6
    Executing Nano Program: Cellular Recuperation.
    You healed x for 1135 points of health.
    Nano program executed successfully.
    You healed x for 1296 points of health.
    Executing Nano Program: Cellular Recuperation.
    You healed x for 1378 points of health.
    Nano program executed successfully.
    You healed x for 1296 points of health.


    2 heals in a row at my current heckler team on the tanking enf
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  7. #7
    sick

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  8. #8
    I've submitted a bug report.
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  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Elucidate
    Wrong.

    CR was ninja-fixed. The CanNotRefresh flag is now present.
    CR has never had a CannotRefresh in the 15.7.0 and 15.7.1 database btw

    15.0.2: Modified Description, Social Armor, Default Target, Buff Nano, Want Collision, Mirror In Left Hand
    15.5.5: Modified Description, Social Armor, Default Target, Buff Nano, Want Collision

    So next time research properly
    Last edited by Snowbunnie; Dec 2nd, 2004 at 20:27:11.
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  10. #10
    CR is back on my hotbar. If I'm soloing afreet I use it and hell I get 3k worth of heal each time. Less nano than the 216 heal.

    That rascal needs a nerf :P
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  11. #11
    I use CR for soloing merlin dragons and other inf dynas (low level ones), have tried a couple of times with AP, only works if i go enf hunting for behe/cs first. With CR i can do it selfbuffed with my gimpy gear/ACs. ToK are nicer if i bother to find a MP first though.

    Edit: What i meant to say is that something is clearly wrong.
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  12. #12
    is it really that good? omg i cant wait

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  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Elucidate
    I've submitted a bug report.

    you mean you waisted 10 secounds of your life in AO to submit a report that will never be read?
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  14. #14
    I already reported this a few weeks ago, Sheffy knows about it. Dunno if he heard anythinb back on it yet
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  15. #15
    its in the bugs list, dunno how long until it gets fixed
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  16. #16
    Actually that is a bug i can life with ...
    For a (very) long time ...

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  17. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathstalker
    Actually that is a bug i can live with ...
    For a (very) long time ...



    hehehe, hope its still active when i get 175

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  18. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Olabil
    hehehe, hope its still active when i get 175
    Gl casting it.
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  19. #19
    Easily castable at 175 w/ full Champ of Nano Combat/nanodoc/AFM perked out. Even for atrox.
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  20. #20
    Hehe. I remember that I was proud I could self cast that nano at 202, and I had to use all the buff items I had at the time to do it.......of course I think my doc was 205 before he even had symbs in :P
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