NT's should get a patch

[Kinkstaah]

Fix the debuff root problem. Properly this time.

Make NT (and nt only) nukes do more than 40% max HP damage. (if they do more damage ala Izzy's little nuke, last word, Kels)

Increase the resist rates on ALL debuffs to crazy high rates so those with high NR will be able to resist them.

LOWER Nano resist of mobs so people can still debuff them in pvm play (although imho if you have trouble or are supposed ot have trouble with a yellow NT player's resist, you should also have same difficulty with yellow NT mob)

Increase the effectiveness of the Crunchcom line, if need be make a few other ones (~40-50%) self only or NT only.

[Razzitazz]

Originally posted by Sredni
Well, I didn't think that anyone else had a version of the HE, and I was pretty sure that nobody else can teleport strait to town. That said, if ya'll get a version of mirror shield, I think soldiers should get our own version of HE. Make it as rare as nullity, make it as feeble as ya'll claim nullity is, but hell, if they give our Class Defining nano to you, then I want your Class Defining nano in exchange.

You can't be serous.

H.E. really doesn't help me, in battle I'm either dead or racharging when aggro switches (stimming in PvP) because the delay is far too long and not enough per tick.

As for the city warp. Bah, it takes an ungodly amount of time to cast and it only allows you to go to 2 cities, Tir (in some far corner) and West Athen.

Also, please don't talk about NS like its possible to get. Not to mention the fact that it roots us in place means you can run. IN ADDITION, MKI, which is the NS that most have, has such a long recharge that it really only lasts for a nuke or 2 fast nukes.

Please don't talk unless you know. I love my NT and I plan to take her to 200, and I'm sure I will.

[______________Sredni]

lol I come here to defend my profession from untruths, ie: we have never had our own patch designed to improve us, our specials arn't godly insta kills every time in all situations, specials can miss (due to the reload BUG). And I get attacked. BAH!

/sarcasm on
Fine you all hate your port to town nanos and HE's. You hate them all so much you obviously won't mind sharing em. Heck they suck so bad you all won't mind Giving them to soldiers will you? That's the way to go, take away HE's and port to town nano's and give em to soldiers.
/sarcasm off

Leave my proffession alone and I'll return the favour. Heck, I'm sick of nerfs and don't want anyone nerfed, even if you attack my proffession like many of you did in this thread I won't attack back. I'll merely point out the falsehoods, and pray you all don't get soldiers nerfed again!

[Razzitazz]

Soldiers aren't gimped, and they shouldn't be nerfed.

They are far below agents, adventurers, fixers and NT's on the problem list.

[_______________Garzu]

Originally posted by Sredni
Well, I didn't think that anyone else had a version of the HE, and I was pretty sure that nobody else can teleport strait to town. That said, if ya'll get a version of mirror shield, I think soldiers should get our own version of HE. Make it as rare as nullity, make it as feeble as ya'll claim nullity is, but hell, if they give our Class Defining nano to you, then I want your Class Defining nano in exchange.

Yeah, and becuase traders, advs and MAs got healing, lets give docs Polymorphs, trader like debuffs, and some Brawling buffs.

[______________Sredni]

NT's aren't gimped, and they shouldn't be nerfed.

They are far below agents, adventurers, fixers and soldiers's on the problem list.

Wow, I can say that with ease to. Doesn't make it true tho does it. And I bet fixers, advents, and agents are laughing at my statement as much as they were at your's Kkrylon.

Garzu, I was being fececious when I was asking for an HE for soldiers. But truly the idea has grown upon me, I would like an HE, you guys get nullity, we should get HE. Only seems fair. (once again I realize how rare nullity is, there is no need to ***** and moan and say I'm a retard because so few of you have it. make the soldier HE just as rare for all I care).

I'm asking here once again to leave soldiers alone. Compared to Enforcers, Doctors, and MP's pre lvl 150 we are gimped. We have our strengths, and you guys can point them out as proof that we need no fixes, but I will continue to work for the much needed soldier luvin we deserve. And I will continue to refrain from sinking to the level most of you ******* NT's sink to when you do your best to scuttle our efforts. You all don't seem to realize that getting your own proff fixed doesn't depend upon screwing things for the soldiers, you will undoubtedly get fixed before we do regardless, there's no need to try to screw things up for us.

[Razzitazz]

Originally posted by Sredni
NT's aren't gimped, and they shouldn't be nerfed.

They are far below agents, adventurers, fixers and soldiers's on the problem list.

Wow, I can say that with ease to. Doesn't make it true tho does it. And I bet fixers, advents, and agents are laughing at my statement as much as they were at your's Kkrylon.

Ok, for some reason you argue against your own point. My point was that soldiers SHOULD NOT BE TOUCHED. Just like you keep saying.

So take your sarcasm somewhere else.

[_______________Garzu]

Originally posted by Sredni
NT's aren't gimped, and they shouldn't be nerfed.

They are far below agents, adventurers, fixers and soldiers's on the problem list.

Wow, I can say that with ease to. Doesn't make it true tho does it. And I bet fixers, advents, and agents are laughing at my statement as much as they were at your's Kkrylon.

Garzu, I was being fececious when I was asking for an HE for soldiers. But truly the idea has grown upon me, I would like an HE, you guys get nullity, we should get HE. Only seems fair. (once again I realize how rare nullity is, there is no need to ***** and moan and say I'm a retard because so few of you have it. make the soldier HE just as rare for all I care).

I'm asking here once again to leave soldiers alone. Compared to Enforcers, Doctors, and MP's pre lvl 150 we are gimped. We have our strengths, and you guys can point them out as proof that we need no fixes, but I will continue to work for the much needed soldier luvin we deserve. And I will continue to refrain from sinking to the level most of you ******* NT's sink to when you do your best to scuttle our efforts. You all don't seem to realize that getting your own proff fixed doesn't depend upon screwing things for the soldiers, you will undoubtedly get fixed before we do regardless, there's no need to try to screw things up for us.

First, how do you expect to get any support in your cause for a love patch dedicated to Soldier when all you do is to work against an NT patch?

Is it because someone said something like "Soldiers are uber"?

Ppl will always say things like that... if you have to defend remarks like that, you have a bunch of threads to post your opinions in...

I got a lvl 50ish soldier my self, it was my first char, I gave him up after the MK nerf and the dmg nerf.... (made my NT almost at release, but sold was my main until then) It was no fun anymore, soldier sucked to be honest... all my skills were worthless over the night.

I can agree its not fun to play a soldier anymore, I hear you start to shine at lvl 150-160+, but obviously you (and I can understand it) want some additions to the soldier prof to make the prof worthwhile to lvl up to lvl 150-160+, and a little more fun except to press "Q" and do a MK shield, specially now that the OE nerf comes around and limits the lower lvl soldiers a bit.

The way you are turning statements around and against them is jsut what a troll would do... and you are not a troll.

But plz, no need to tell the NTs what the soldier problem are... we have just as you enough ppl working against us at all times, we dont need more.

Thanks, see you later...

[______________Sredni]

Arg! I've never worked against a nt patch, NEVER. I posted on this thread to start with just to clear up false information that was posted about soldiers. We have never had our own patch, our specials do miss all the time (by missing I and all the other soldiers mean the reload bug eats them), and we arn't an uber pvp/pvm god proff. And yes I suppose my posts escalated from there and I apologise.

Kkrylon, my point was that we should be touched, only in a good way. Most soldiers just want bug fixes and some content added, whereas I want improvements. We ask for things but then people come along and say we're fine and we shouldn't be touched and this is patently not true. We need a whole slew of bugs fixed as a must, and we need something to make our proff fun again. It was fun when we dealt amazing damage, but they've crippled us in that regard. Now I'd be happy to have something to distinguish us from everyone else, something unique that we could call our own. My favorite idea is a different type of coat (not better, just different) which has a banner pole sitcking up above our heads with some symbol on the banner (clan symbol, omni symbol, just something neat).

For the record *I* beleive that when NT's had 80m range and full damage they were overpowered (just like before the damage nerf, and burst and full auto nerf, and reflect shield nerf, soldiers were overpowered). Simply because they could 1 nuke kill with their very slow nukes from insane range. Then funcom took away both these abilities, nerfing your range to 40m, and nerfing all damage to 50%, and 40%max. Practically overnight you lost your range, and your big nukes for pvp. Either of which seperately I don't think would be crippling, but taken together obviously are. *I* Beleive they should give you your range back. The 50%/40% nerf everyone endured is enough to eliminate instakills for everybody, there was no need to take away your range as well (that bullsh*t about them removing it to eliminate an exploit was simply that, bullsh*t. If they had simply wanted to fix an exploit that occured at extreme 80m range they could have dropped your range to 70, or 60 meters).

Sometimes I get so tired of trying to protect my proffession, up until last patch I can't remember a patch where we didn't endure some nerf or another. I was amazed and happy when last patch didn't reveal some hidden nerf like the weapon switching nerf from the patch before. Once I pass the magic 150 soldiers have (just 15 levels to go) I imagine I'll retreat and leave fighting for the soldiers to the lowbies who are still suffereing. Until then tho I intend to continue doing as I have been, correcting falsehoods, laying out the truth as I see it (may not be *the* truth, but it's the truth from my perspective).

[Razzitazz]

Ok, I hope you don't think that I'm trying to fight or anything but I do have to say this. Although my soldier is very low level, it seems that he can dish out tons of damage to his specials. I just think that with the flashpoint/nova or gamma or whatever heavy weapon assault rifle you choose to use, you are well off IMHO. Maybe you can Garzu disagree with me, and of course that is your right. But when I go up to MMD and I see one soldier continously alpha striking and MKing, slowly taking kill after kill, its hard for me to hear that they have huge troubles. I hate cookie cutter soldiers, so obviously giving you guys many more pieces of armor would be great, but like the original thread says NT's should get a patch. We have non-OEable armor, crappy cloaks, low range, nukes that basically stop at 125ish outside of a few, etc.

I guess I just needed to rant a bit, didn't mean to take it out on any profession besides my own. :P

[______________Soccom]

Originally posted by Demada


Since when does pulling the trigger while not having any ammo in your weapon (Which is what I would assume is meant by "Reloading", as in you are out of ammo and are thus loading, again (thus the "re", a prefix indictating a repetition of a previous action) ammo into the weapon) count as missing? Same damage, but not the same thing at all. I hope you were joking about that

Actually I was referring to the last comment of "Besides, when you try to do a special without bullets, you dont miss". Since you have a shooting animation.... use your specials up... and do not do any damage to your opponent.. i would count that as missing.
Have you ever been bored at about lvl 15 and attack a guard in trade? You miss your specials.. Its kinda funny.

[_______________Garzu]

About soldiers:

Their combat abilities shold NOT be touched. They are powerful enough as they are. Some other stuff like buffs etc, can be an option. I dont know what Sredni have in mind, but the soldier combat ability is very good.

Side note: My soldier was crippled because of the nerfs, I had specialised in pvp, when the rules changed I sucked totally

[______________Sredni]

ARG! It's up to funcom to decide wheather we should be improved or not, and I wish you'd stop telling them and everyone else not to improve us. You're not going to be happy until nt's join the ranks of the enforcers, docs, and mp's when it comes to but kicking. Will you still try to keep us down then Garzu?

When I go up against mp's, doctors, and enforcers at lvl 135 and die with enforcer's at half health (if I'm lucky), and doc's and mp's at full health I think soldiers combat abilities need a boost.

[Nullifax]

Soldiers are fine! My level 5 soldier has no problems whatsoever, so I don't know what you're talking about!

Same goes for my level 11 NT!

(In case you thouhght I was being serious, think differently)

[______________Soccom]

Originally posted by Garzu
About soldiers:

Their combat abilities shold NOT be touched. They are powerful enough as they are. Some other stuff like buffs etc, can be an option. I dont know what Sredni have in mind, but the soldier combat ability is very good.

Side note: My soldier was crippled because of the nerfs, I had specialised in pvp, when the rules changed I sucked totally

Soldiers are powerful in pvp because of specials/mk shield (Lvl150+ soldiers shine the most. At sub 100 they are just OK pvp'ers).
Soldiers really hurt in solo ability and in general pvm. Soldiers do need alift in these areas but are not in as much need of "love" as fixers and adventurers.

All i feel that NTs really need is this.
1. Fix the nano breed and increase their nano pool by the same margin that Atrox's have more health.
2.Keep damage the way it is and undo the range for NT blasts.

I feel these would "balance" (there should never be true balance. One profession should always dominate another... but then should be dominated by yet another. and so forth) out NTs.

[_______________Garzu]

Originally posted by Sredni
ARG! It's up to funcom to decide wheather we should be improved or not, and I wish you'd stop telling them and everyone else not to improve us. You're not going to be happy until nt's join the ranks of the enforcers, docs, and mp's when it comes to but kicking. Will you still try to keep us down then Garzu?

When I go up against mp's, doctors, and enforcers at lvl 135 and die with enforcer's at half health (if I'm lucky), and doc's and mp's at full health I think soldiers combat abilities need a boost.

Oki oki oki, I am just VERY much against anything that can make the soldier more powerful than they are at lvl 150-160+. I am VERY concerned that any additions to soldiers meant to make the low lvl play easier, will make them even more tough at higher lvls. I repeat, soldiers need anything except a combat enhancing boost at those high lvls.

Soldiers can get as many boosts they want.... as long as they dont get more powerful in combat at higher lvls. FC must be sure, if they do give soldiers anything, to not make soldiers tougher at lvl 150-160+.

Hope I made it clear this time

Again, I have nothing against some loving for the soldiers, as long as it doesnt boost their combat skill at high lvls.

This is ALL from a pvp perspective. PvM I am not concerned at all.

[________________Heya]

And this thread is started by a lvl 44 nt! LOL!
Heck give nts superior mohams that adds 280 to mc that would balance things out. NOT!

[_______________Garzu]

Originally posted by Vandame
And this thread is started by a lvl 44 nt! LOL!
Heck give nts superior mohams that adds 280 to mc that would balance things out. NOT!

Personally I got 945 MC. I cast all nukes. But I would like such a buff.

What exactly are you saying here? NTs dont need anything?

[Cosmik]

FYI, I've been gathering information on the top concerns of the Nano Technicians and have been looking into the issues that affect them (fumbles, damage....and I even have looked at the nano resist work you've been doing, Garzu).

Thanks for all the threads so far guys - keep em coming. And yes, as I get more info on these concerns I'll let you know.

[___________Stercoral]

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