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plugszzz
The thing to remember is this:
its an anti PERSONNEL turrent
It was meant to deal with this situation itself and since it's inception, it has brought some balance to tower wars, especially in the tl3-4 arena
Balance? How in gods name is logging on a stripped char vs. a char that's spent 2 bill on and being able to alpha it balance? It's the exact opporsit... It's retarded at best...
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Want to nerf some things, let's try these:
1- Nanite casting TL3 traders
2- 80-90ish agents with SPBs
3- relatively low MR on top end Tiig beaters and chef cleavers
4- 60 second countdown timer when entering active gas. if you in a zone, you should be attackable.
5- terminate any and all OBs when entering a hot field, just like BS
1: They can cast it because they spent time and creds on their prof, there's ways to get around it and deal with it..
2: See above..
3: See above..
4: Defenders can run out the zone as well so point mute...
5: BS terminates all buffs, not just OBs point mute...
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Not many people maintain full ai armor, top end gear setup tl3-4 tower twinks except clans, so giving folks an option of viably defending their fields. The use of an APT helps those without the epeening "I got the best toon" blah blah viable defend themselves.
This opinion is based on experience, not just conjecture
Case in point: Clans attacking the TL3 field my org held every day as soon as it went hot this past week. Use of the APT helped those available at the time of these attacks (12amish GMT -6 time) be able to defend to the field during the entire 6 hours the field was hot.
5 out of 6 days, these long drawn battles occurred, which consisted mainly of the clans running in and out of the field before the grace period expired, only wanting to engage those on foot or alone, mainly pvm players(insert "boost your epeening ego here") but will run like mad when a player that is truly a pvper come after them in defense.
So basicly in short terms what your saying is because noone in your org is willing to spend any time/creds making a twink (which is what makes this MMO stand out more than others) you should have a easy way out? Ummm no...
I've attacked you a few times and there have been none to quote you "truly a pvper" from your org there, there has been from other orgs, but if they stop defending you or you don't/won't/can't even make defenders yourself you shouldn't have towers in that ql range... To use a old saying "If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.."... Your reasoning is quite flawed...
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Either way, FC's desire to balance things is commendable, but as with some things, everyone can't have their way about things all the time. By far and large, the most efficient way to balance current low end pvp will be the termination of outside buffs when entering a 25% or lower field, then you give every player, pve/pvm/pvp based a fighting chance to engage one another...not a supertwink alphaing everything in sight every 6-15 seconds before someone even gets a chance to get a shot in. This itselfs discourages folks from pvp, since who would constantly want to buff up, run in, get killed in 10secs and do it all over again for 6 hours. This would bring it down to what it needs to be, skill and toolset
Afaik all players are able to get the same buffs be it pvp or pvm, so this reasoning for removing OB's is also pretty flawed... It hardly discourages people from PVP what it does is encourage people to make twinks for themselves... Well some and some not... Again... "If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen..."...
This "We won't make anything remotely able to defend our spot and we wont make any friends to do it for us either..." is ridiculous... If you wont you simply shouldn't own towers in the level range your unable to defend... Having 4 completely unplayable toons other than for setting up apt/avt like certain omni orgs on rk-1 have at lower tl's is utterly retarded...
Here's my opinion remove APT/AVT/Mechs from NW and make them BS only... There you go, problem solved... Seriously though keep them and nerf them, since this problem is mainly a tl3-4 one where the APT's are way off where they should be... Reids and Lupus (WTF agreeing again!!!??????) actually had some rather good suggestions...