MP Concerns for TL3 in pvp Discussion

Despite the fact that everything in regards to the Professionals program being a bit slowed up on the back end, I told a few folks that this week I'd start a thread to get some input on what folks think is needed for MPs at TL3 in terms of pvp.

This is a TL that while once pretty strong for MP has seen a bit of relative decline as other professions have caught up while our toolset (whipping out really big pets) has remained fairly static. I'd like to see what players of MPs of that TL would like to see happen to improve the toolset at that TL and keep us competitive.

Please stay on topic and keep comments constructive.

pet derooters

Pet root/snare/calm remover from level 49.

Level lock trader drains.

1. No more double AAO checking perks (being fixed already).
2. Level lock trader drains.
3. Root/snare/calm resistance for pets and root/snare/calm removers.

Small no4, maybe allow MP to reach a decent def without using shield: get a bit of a decent weapon on.

hi

I dont have a MP, but I get to fight severals at TL3, with several TL3 toons myself.

You indeed suffer from calm / roots / snare
you indeed suffer from trader drains (as almost every one ...)
you maybe suffer from double AAO check on perks ... even if at TL3, the perks are not that devastating...

if you get what you ask, ("corrections" for the above") ... who exactly is going to be albe to kill you ?

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Originally Posted by Gridpain

if you get what you ask, ("corrections" for the above") ... who exactly is going to be albe to kill you ?

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Same people that kill us already. It will just require more effort in doing so.

Having taken an NT to Reids' TL3 MP several times, I can attest to the ease at which MP pets are disabled at this TL. Reids' inability to perk me (parry sticks equal laughable AR for perks) combined with my ability to disable his pets meant a lot of our fights were pretty one-sided.

Mind you, he's fighting in top-of-the-line Combined Scouts, fully twinked to the nines. I'm in ql75 Nano armor. Hardly could call myself twinked. Still wearing the Blue Bathrobe when Neleb's gear was out. You get the picture.

Sure, there's a root/snare remover at 75, but before then there's nada, and the R/S remover line does nothing for calms.

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Originally Posted by Dancingrage

Having taken an NT to Reids' TL3 MP several times, I can attest to the ease at which MP pets are disabled at this TL. Reids' inability to perk me (parry sticks equal laughable AR for perks) combined with my ability to disable his pets meant a lot of our fights were pretty one-sided.

Mind you, he's fighting in top-of-the-line Combined Scouts, fully twinked to the nines. I'm in ql75 Nano armor. Hardly could call myself twinked. Still wearing the Blue Bathrobe when Neleb's gear was out. You get the picture.

Sure, there's a root/snare remover at 75, but before then there's nada, and the R/S remover line does nothing for calms.

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Yeah nurf that :p

My MP has been stripped for about 2 years now. I stripped him for a few reasons:

• Clan TL3 force at the time consisted of about 90% of calming profs, this was hugely frustrating and meant pretty much anyone could take me out whilst I terminated my pets and had to re-cast (not an option if a trader had calmed them or a NT had CoFed me)
• Combine the above point and the ability to attack MPs pets without getting flagged yourself. Lots of traders would calm my pets then attack me after my pets were disabled. This maybe fixed now, not sure.

Other than that TL3 MPs don't really need anything else, they're pretty OPed in the right hands. Plenty of DD, plenty of evades, plenty of NR. Just lack a role in mass PvP.

Last call for input before I unsticky the old Wishlist/Buglist threads and get writing on a new set.

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Originally Posted by Klodders

Pet root/snare/calm remover from level 49.

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bump! even tho tl3 mp's are pretty balanced, tl5 on the other hand..