122 fixer here who regularly pulls agro from 140+ soldiers, adv, and Enforcers
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122 fixer here who regularly pulls agro from 140+ soldiers, adv, and Enforcers
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Btw; improvement to line of soldier tuants (which as far as I can tell don't work half a lick) would be more than welcome.
MP's curse of chronos has a taunt factor of 5663
MP's Mind Quake has a taunt factor of 1491
Open with a MQ nuke and then hit the MOB with curse of Chronos. Does it seem fair to anyone that MP's should be able to out-taunt an enforcer with the added effect of doing up to 1500dmg, debuffing all nanoskills by 100 and immobilizing the opponent for a few seconds?
Yes, boost enforcer mongos by a factor of 2. I'm scared to even know what taunt factor NT nukes have.....
funny thing is deakon that our FIRST mongo has more tauntpoints than a Q93 single target taunt
Increase mongo by2x, increase single taunts by 10x, then our single taunt line will be slightly better than mongo for the quality.
then boost ma and solja taunts so they can hold agro if I am not around (probably not quite as high as enforcers as agro is our job, but high enough to keep agro).
Then boost agro enhancers and da taunters to actually be usefull (if you look at Q200 agro enhancers they are pathetic, same with da taunter).
dont know how this got to game mechanics as I want this on the next patch and it is where I posted, but such is life, just keep the thread alive!!!!
OMG
page 2?
I am slacking
and I am slacking on that email to you CZ
ill have do that soon
We hear a lot of talk about profession luv patches. Enforcers need a hate patch.
More aggro for enfs.
roflolQuote:
Originally posted by Hypos
We hear a lot of talk about profession luv patches. Enforcers need a hate patch.
More aggro for enfs.
YES YES... GIVE US A HATE PATCH
New enf only item: Anti-deoderant.
Makes em stink so much, the mobs try to kill em!
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Originally posted by Yazule
roflol
YES YES... GIVE US A HATE PATCH
"Enforcer hate patch" I think I like the sound of that. As long as it contains MOB hate towards us. Not FunCom hate towards us. If you know what I mean......;)
Funniest thing is, the people best at retaining aggro are NTs. Electrifying containment alone is almost 7K, and NTs can spam those once every 4 seconds. A level 150 NT can easily steal aggro from even the highest damage dealing level 200 MA.
yeah, and the taunt factor on some of your nano's is greater than ANY taunt item/nano enforcers have in their arsenal... add to that the damage of that taunting nuke *shudder*...Quote:
Originally posted by PipBoy
Funniest thing is, the people best at retaining aggro are NTs. Electrifying containment alone is almost 7K, and NTs can spam those once every 4 seconds. A level 150 NT can easily steal aggro from even the highest damage dealing level 200 MA.
love HE, hate teamin with NT's though if I am expected to keep agro :rolleyes:
Here ya go folks...a complete list of all items with Taunts on them. =)
Apologize for not hot-linking them...but it would have shoved me over the post size limit for the boards, and figured it was better to have them in one full list than linked. The AOID is provided, so you can plug it in at:
http://v020u46eff.maximumasp.com/AOD...tem.asp?AOID=X
-JaydeCode:Taunt Item Name QL AOID
10000 Mongo Crush Taunt 100195
8720 Total Mental Domination 179 99192
7520 Inveigle Support 162 99194
7000 Mongo Smash Taunt 100196
6680 Insidious Beguilement 152 99195
6183 Electrifying Containment 185 28604
5857 Living Embalming 175 30079
5756 Allure of Servitude 136 99198
5663 Curse of Chronos 169 29285
5372 Chains of Iron 165 30060
5000 Mongo Bash Taunt 100193
4900 My Brain For Your Brain 186 143898
4886 Death's Gaze 142 25980
4850 Captivated Thoughts 109 99199
4660 Tight Embrace 159 29199
4369 Neural Stunner 152 28625
4366 Control Ends and Means 176 143894
4344 Izgimmer's Enveloping Flame 182 28616
3824 Thought Juggler 159 143895
3800 Impose Will 86 99201
3476 Redirect Neural Signals 149 143896
3173 Displace Thought Patterns 189 99209
2950 Solicit Support 63 99202
2924 Thought Controller 126 143897
2890 Glacial Finality 175 45233
2840 Charismatic Rapture 169 99193
2781 Gravitational Anomaly 169 45234
2652 Warmth of the Grave 189 45192
2600 Temporary Allegiance 159 99196
2520 Burning Bones 182 28597
2520 Furious Assault 83 28610
2500 Mongo Slam Taunt 100194
2442 Searing Circle 152 45213
2358 Enrapturing Bondage 149 99197
2335 Dominate Psyche 47 99204
2278 Brain Bender 97 142767
2118 Contained Plasma Sphere 136 45237
2116 Siren Call 123 30092
1994 Internal Combustion 162 28613
1934 Molecular Flechettes 165 45217
1903 Lesser Charismatic Rapture 96 99200
1891 Compacted Neutron Missile 165 28600
1800 Aggression Multiplier (Jealousy Augmented)200 152028
1786 Deep Thought 74 142771
1767 Eternal Enmity 162 100214
1718 Bend Will 33 99206
1665 Thunderous Blow 43 45202
1664 Primal Hatred 139 100209
1661 Pheromone Control 76 30086
1617 Only You, Only Me 152 29242
1511 Crown of Frost 156 45239
1491 Mind Quake 173 125761
1479 Personal Magnetism 53 99203
1450 Brain Swap 50 142768
1301 Soft Siren Call 40 99205
1291 Seething Resentment 136 100216
1244 Id Assault 132 100207
1223 Temporary Glamor 20 99208
1150 Lesser Pheromone Control 27 99207
1123 Roar of Aggression 116 100210
1114 Mental Switcheroo 34 142769
1000 Presence of the Overlord 162836
982 Wrath Abatement 179 99113
890 Aggressive Captivation 90 29218
869 Lull Wrath 162 99123
850 Library of Foul Language 200 165111
843 Encourage Hatred 86 100215
800 Modified Aggression Enhancer 200 151693
800 Aggression Multiplier 200 83919
800 Da Taunter!! 200 158046
780 Project Thought Patterns 17 142770
759 Wrath Ebb 149 99114
750 Presence of the Overlord 162835
740 Decrepitude 72 99585
712 Annoying Presence 70 100205
705 Uncontrollable Body Tremors 185 99577
693 Spin Nanoweb 82898
657 Temper Wrath 136 99116
638 Baleful Stare 57 100212
593 Festering Plague 152 28661
585 Leisurely Interrogation 165 56207
582 Distracting Nuisance 53 100217
574 Greater Fear of Attention 82137
574 Rage Eradication 116 99115
561 Mass Gravity Bindings 82901
557 Rapid Palsy 159 99579
535 Fear of Attention 82138
500 Presence of the Master 162834
496 Rage Abolishment 93 99117
489 Greater Paralyze with Indecision 149 56208
478 Enforced Sloth 82892
456 Swap Psyche 4 142766
449 Greater Net Cast Wide 82904
444 Captivating Speech 152 55982
438 Entrap Victim 142 56209
431 Rage Suppression 76 99118
420 Wasted Limbs 99 99576
418 Lesser Fear of Attention 82139
414 Induce Musculature Spasms 126 99583
387 Greater Delay Pursuers 82889
385 Greater Hold Victim 83 56210
362 Spin Weak Nanoweb 82897
349 Enraged Mind 30 100206
344 Stifle Rage 53 99119
339 Aggressive Instincts 27 100211
333 Prolonged Interrogation 119 56211
331 Greater Delay the Inevitable 90 82545
330 Flow of Time 82148
326 Greater Mass Illusory Paralysis 82140
315 Null Space Disruptor 154711
309 Legions of the Eyeblighter 83940
301 Advanced Frailty 66 99586
300 Apple Seed - Special Arrows 100 158597
299 Disruptive Retributive Negator 154706
291 Weighty Announcement 82896
287 Muscle Atrophy 83 99581
281 Paralyze with Indecision 99 56212
277 Quench Anger 40 99120
277 Disruptive Void Projector 154701
274 Bad Blood 24 28866
269 Invasive Distributed Entanglement 82903
264 Greater Restrict Movement 99 55986
254 Delay the Inevitable 63 82539
251 Rigid Stance 82141
245 Disruptive Phase Harmonics 154712
241 Mass Pronounce Blindness 83939
238 Disruptive Retaliatory Negator 154707
238 Delay Pursuers 82890
237 Hold Victim 132 56213
232 Disruptive Photon Annihilator 154702
232 Greater Enforced Sloth 82895
220 Pestering Gadfly - Special Arrows 100 159064
214 Net Cast Wide 82900
212 Mass Cornea Attack 83941
212 Pyramid Marketing 82147
209 Quell Anger 30 99122
207 Blizzard of Red Tape 50 82477
199 Draw Attention 14 100208
194 Disruptive Photon Devourer 154703
194 Greater Detain Suspect 66 56214
184 Exhaust Muscles 43 99584
184 Disruptive Barrier Negator 154708
181 Ego Pummel 14 26418
180 Captivate Crowd 82142
180 Active Distributed Entanglement 82905
178 Disruptive Cocoon Harmonics 154713
176 Lesser Delay the Inevitable 37 82542
174 Phantom Weight 30 99580
161 Lesser Weighty Announcement 82893
151 Disruptive Photon Absorber 154704
150 Brief Interrogation 47 56215
149 Lesser Delay Pursuers 82891
140 Nervejolt 149973
140 Enveloping Darkness 83938
133 Lesser Net Cast Wide 82902
125 Taunting Glare 7 100213
124 Disruptive Shielding Negator 154709
122 Douse Anger 14 99121
119 Capture Attention 82143
108 Disruptive Photon Deflector 154705
106 Lesser Paralyze with Indecision 33 56217
104 Disruptive Field Harmonics 154714
103 Wild Eye Gouger 83945
100 Terrifying Mind Pulse 156589
99 Postpone Encounter 14 82537
97 Lesser Muscle Atrophy 17 99582
94 Tired Limbs 7 99578
93 Lesser Enforced Sloth 82894
89 Gouge Eyes 27 83942
87 Ego Taunt 4 29228
83 Mass Illusory Paralysis 82144
81 Passive Distributed Entanglement 82899
77 Mass Claw Eyes 83946
75 Disruptive Field Negator 154710
75 Aggression Enhancer (Jealousy Augmented) 1 152029
67 Sticky Ground 82146
62 Lesser Hold Victim 17 56216
60 Shed Anger 7 99112
59 Aggression Prod 1 26341
50 Enmity 30 26421
40 Mass Daze 82145
30 Library of Foul Language 1 165112
25 Aggression Enhancer 1 83920
25 Da Taunter! 1 158045
25 Modified Aggression Enhancer 1 151692
18 Detain Suspect 1 56218
15 HSR Hedgehog 23 Throwing Grenade 1 164780
15 HSR Hedgehog 23 Throwing Grenade 200 164781
15 May Fly Throwing Grenade 1 165116
15 May Fly Throwing Grenade 200 165117
15 Apple Seed - Special Arrows 1 158596
-5 The Repressor 1 159196
-3000 Resonance Blast 200 201935
-3000 The Repressor 400 159197
Thanks Jayde ... you da man
I have to retract my comment about NT nuke taunts being better than ANYTHING we have.
Just better than anything I have at 142 (til I get smash at 144)
even with smash at 7k taunt points I would bet my 200 beam that Curse of crono's does more agro with its damage figured in.
Meaning I do not have anything better till my 190ish level Mongo crush (when nobody cares about agro anymore because mobs drop in about .5 seconds)
I'll give'er a bump. I take it very personally when a team-member dies and loses xp because I can't pull aggro off them. I can mongo/da taunter!! my butt off to no effect and then I'm really stuck as my nanopool ain't as deep as it ought to be. I don't remember whose sig it was that said "Enforcers don't just take damage like a pro, they pour milk over it, eat it with a spoon and smile." Just a thought but thats the way things should actually be.