Enforcer Item Balancing

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Aug 27th, 2010, 03:22:17
Gatester

Enforcer Item Balancing

It seems items will be a significant aspect of balancing, so I'm gonna try getting us jump-started on this before we end up with issues similar to our nano doc. First I will list as many of the items enforcers commonly use as I possibly can. I would like everyone to tell me any items they would want added to the list. To follow up, I suppose we should discuss the items that need changes, the items that are fine as they are, and things we would like to see added or removed.

Here are as many of the items I can think of being our "profession" tools:

UTILITIES

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Ancient Speed Preservation Unit Infused Ancient Speed Preservation Unit Init debuff resistance/immunity + AAD increase, can be equipped together Gallant Flapper Ribbon Offensive strength increaser Stellar Enforcer Nanodeck Profession star+Nanodeck Bigot's Earring of Sacrifice Inferno dyna drop, Crit decreaser

ARMORS

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Band of Bravery Ofab enforcer ring, Unique, ql25 intervals, Level locked at each interval Has defensive proc Band of the Bear Claw Rubi-Ka questline ring, Jack the Legchopper quest, 130 level lock Beefeater's Merit Board [url=http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=216285[Captain Lotto's Merit Board[/url] Rubi-Ka raid drop, Hollow Island, Unique, Title level 6+, Faction Bigot's Bracer of Sacrifice Inferno dyna drop, Unique Black Clan Heavy Tank Armor Rubi-Ka team or dyna boss drop Improved Black Clan Heavy Tank Armor Upgraded item, Rubi-Ka Gil Jha's Discreet Helmet Man Dal's Gaudy Helmet Adonis temple armor drop, Faction, Title level 4+, "Moo helm" Impudent Bracer Adonis dyna drop, Unique, Neural Interpreting Nball - Melee Fighting Rubi-Ka Unique drop, Multi-wieldable weapon skill buff item Notum Miner's Hard Hat Rubi-Ka raid drop, Hollow Island, Unique Ring of Burning Flesh Inferno dyna drop, Unique Special Edition Ofab Enforcer Helmet Lost Eden armor, Ofab helmet variation, Has ofab proc Stinging Louse Inferno dyna drop, No AC's, stat buffing item Veil of the Revoked Rubi-Ka, Trade skilled, Crypt of Home

ARMOR SETS

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Bellum Badonis Inferno Multi-profession armor Enforcer Tier Armor SL armor, Leveling armor Enforcer Chosen Enforcer Faithful SL armor, Tier final upgrade, Factions only, Leveling armor Enforcer Ofab Lost Eden armor, upgradeable, Ql 25 intervals Pilgrim Protector Rubi-Ka dyna drop, Clan only Rhinoman Leather Armor Rubi-Ka mob (rhinoman) drop, Non-profession specific Miy's Tank Armor Rubi-Ka mob (various, specific) drop, Non-profession specific Nonpartisan Armor SL dyna drop (rafters), Neutral only

WEAPONS

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Support Beam of Intolerance Rubi-ka dungeon drop (Subway), Useable effect (taunt), 2-handed blunt weapon Blood Bat 1-handed blunt weapon with Sneak Attack Chef Cleaver Adonis "enforcer" weapon, 1-handed edge weapon Cold Morning Icebreaker QL40-50 Rubi-Ka dyna weapon, 2-handed blunt weapon Cuspidal Corpse Cutter QL140-150 Rubi-Ka dyna weapon, 2-handed edge weapon Crispy Chiroptera Hungry Howlet Pained Panther QL 100-105 Rubi-Ka weapons, Crypt of Home 1-handed edge/2-handed blunt/2-handed edge weapons respectively Improved Hacked Medi-Blade Rubi-Ka Unique (multiple) drop, procs 50-150 healing x2 every hit Does not proc on specials Mortiig Beater of Torture QL 100-125 Mortiig class weapon, Elysium, 1-handed blunt weapon Neleb's Nightmare Battlerod Rubi-Ka dungeon boss (Neleb) drop, Steppes of Madness, Non-profession specific Nano-drain proc Punishment Rod Rubi-Ka unique enforcer weapon, 185 level lock, capped attack times Honed Edge of Tarasque Rubi-Ka raid enforcer/keeper weapon, Camelot, 2-handed edge weapon Low damage DoT proc Dreadloch Enhanced Bear Dreadloch Enhanced Panther Dreadloch weapons, -200 AAD proc, 2-handed blunt/1-handed blunt weapons respectively Melee Xan Upgraded Weapons Xan upgraded beast raid weapons Bhan'Zor Hammer Kur'Ush Mallet Fully upgraded Xan weapon, 2-handed blunt/1-handed blunt weapons respectively Sword of Wonder Inferno "general" weapon, 1-handed edge weapon

USEABLE ITEMS

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Assault-class Tank Armor Rubi-Ka Biomare (Foreman's) drop, equippable, 2000 point absorb 40 minute lockout, 41 level lock Brute's Signet of The Apocalypse Xan upgraded Signet Ring, SL zone protection, Useable effect Dreadloch Endurance Booster - Enforcer Special AAD increase, CC tool resistance, and 5000 absorb Wen-Wen of Fortitude 1000 max health buff, 1 minute duration, 30 minute lockout Flurry of Blows Init modifier, crit modifier, aggdef modifier

TAUNTING TOOLS

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Aggression Multiplier (Jealousy Augmented) Rubi-ka tradeskill, Steppes of Madness Codex of the Insulting Emerto AI tradeskill, broken item but in a beneficial way Da Taunter!! Rubi-ka shops, Atrox only Library of Foul Language Rubi-ka mob drop (Cyborgs) Modified Aggression Enhancer Rubi-ka unique drop (Iron Reet), Solitus equip effect (utility) Ephemeral Annoyance Scheol quest reward Scorpio's Aim of Anger Pandemonium, Unique, Equippable (utility)

EXTRAS

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Enforcer Ofab Proc Scaling heal, 1000 heal x2 at 220
Aug 27th, 2010, 03:23:20
Gatester

Reserved for suggestions/additions
Aug 27th, 2010, 03:34:23
Gatester

I do not have much time, but I will start with some simple ones.

I think the tier/faithful/chosen/ofab sleeves should have a unique left and right sleeve, just as the beast sleeves are. I would do this so that the stats that are split (1he in our case) could be doubled to match other piece's stats. The other sleeve could be modified with different stats, and an example for enforcers would be melee energy on the other sleeve.

For players currently wearing two sleeves, I am unsure how FC could alter them currently. If players were allowed to "right click" to change them on ofab and an option to exchange the leveling SL armors with your professional at Jobe, then issues of having a wasted sleeve should be clear. Also, if FC could have a left only sleeve automatically remove itself or lose all benefits from the right arm on zoning, then that should clear up any issues there.

The enforcer ofab proc should be changed to a %based heal or a much larger heal. 2000 healing over 10 seconds for a very low chance defensive proc is negligable and somewhat insulting compared to the other ring procs. 5% heal x2 at 220 would be a 5000 heal on a fully self buffed enforcer post-balancing.
Aug 27th, 2010, 06:57:13
Kopecz

Could add Nonpartisan Armor to the armor list. I've know a few Neutral enfs who've worn it in their careers for the max hp bonus.
Aug 27th, 2010, 08:08:30
Ciex

Ofab ring proc should be way better instead of 2 ticks every 10s it should give 10 ticks / 2s and still it would be nowhere near as good as doc ring but at last you could see it work from time to time. 5% chance sounds so much better and should be same on SE helmet.

Asssault class tank armor – higher lvl lock for sure, it isn’t needed at tl2. Lvl 75 should be better, maybe even lvl 100.

Wen – wen – looks useless in pvm and higher lvl pvp. Add 1-2k ACs and a bit of dmg shields (not reflects) and it may have some uses. 30 minutes lock makes those useless in pvm. Id rather see this lock lowered to 2-3 min and more pvm oriented with combined taunt. Currently low lvl pvp tool and same as assault tank not really needed item that makes enfs hp 3x higher than any other profession.

CoH weapons - maybe lvl lock to 50?

Mortiig beater – lets make it unique and see tl2 way more balanced.

Blood bat – totally useless and very hard to get, yet so “enf like”. Id love to use a bit better version that could compete with 1he setups but currently it cant. Ive seen it in action a few times and its just to weak, to slow… A bit faster (2/2 or even 1,5/1,5) with higher MBS (1,5-1,75) and 100 points higher min dmg should be acceptable and still weaker than 1he options in terms of dd but better paired with kyr hammer for same dmg types. 1,8k 1hb skill should make it a bit of challenge to get at tl5.

Punishment Rod & queen blade – level lock lowered to 150, all specials removed.
Aug 27th, 2010, 08:14:28
Moonbolt

the signet ring should get a rework..
the upgraded HHaB that is.
with putting the enf to 1% health or what the helth is set to makes it completly useless.
Not usable in pvp, not usable in PvM.
Aug 27th, 2010, 11:36:51
Sawbones2

If we lose taunting power in the nano revamp as seems likely one option is to have the Ephemeral Annoyance gadget become area rather than single taunt. In their current form they are rather useless. (ducks in fear of being thrown out of the profession for suggestion something that would make us having to do the hated Scheol quests :D )

Don't recall seeing Flurry of Blows in the list above. How about an Enfo specific version that has a taunt proc added, or better yet an area taunt like Mongo (single taunt would be more "logical" though).
Aug 27th, 2010, 14:09:08
harkness

There's also the bigot pieces. I remember when -crit was a super important bonus for an enforcer, and you'd camp the bigots for the earring and camp notum scourges for the spirit shroud because increasing the number of hits we could take was important.

I do believe we're going to head back more that direction, where taking hits is more important than evading them, because I believe there's going to be a general nerf of evades for non-evade classes.
Aug 27th, 2010, 23:05:06
Biancha

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Originally Posted by Moonbolt

the signet ring should get a rework..
the upgraded HHaB that is.
with putting the enf to 1% health or what the helth is set to makes it completly useless.
Not usable in pvp, not usable in PvM.

it doesn't make it useless, it makes it hilarious and a good test to see if teammates are awake ^_^. i like to use it the way it is.

also, don't forget our premier taunting item in the usable item list.
Aug 27th, 2010, 23:52:15
Harios

You might want to add a seperate section for taunt tools.
Funcom said those will be improved so might be good to add those.
Aug 28th, 2010, 01:53:44
Gatester

Added a seperate Taunters section with the taunters I could find. Also added the items people requested and a weapon I cannot believe I forgot :p (we should all be ashamed for missing the subway weapon)

In regards to weapons, I would like to see a large overhaul of each melee weaponline in general (Martial Arts excluded). I'll post this suggestion in the actual balance discussion and then relate it back to our nanos later.