LE Specific Bugs

This thread will be open for the reporting and detailing of all bugs relating to enforcers in the Lost Eden expansion:

Research:
Bugged Procs:

Currently a number of the new LE proc actions seem to be bugged:

- Shrug off hits: This proc overwrites bio-cocoon even though it only provides a fraction of the absorbs that bio cocoon does. This means that any enforcer using this risks loosing our main and best defense at an inoppportune time.
- Bust Kneecaps currently doesn't work. It is a friendly nano yet has the NCU cost of a hostile nano (999). This gives a "Target does not have enough NCU" message each time it procs.
- Ignore Pain currently hits the enforcer for 600 points of cold damage, rather than healing them for 600 points of damage. As you can see in the active nano there is an erroneous "Cold" qualifier in there.

Proc Descriptions:

Currently multiple procs have a typo listing them as requiring ranged weapons to activate. This is purely an error in the Proc Nano Description. The actions mis-labelled are:

Bust Kneecaps
Ignore Pain
Inspire Hate
Inspire Ire
Unruly Screen
Violation Buffer

Items:
- OFAB armour itemisation lacks Brawl and 1hb.

Mechs:
- No Reported Bugs

Battlestations:
- No Reported Bugs

Pre-existing Skills and Abilities:
- No Reported Bugs

My type 1 procs work, but has anyone seen the type 2 ones work yet (shrug off blows, ignore pain, etc)???

shrug off blows: works

Bust Kneecaps: says i need more ncu. tested having both mob and my self as target. (had 200ish ncu free)

Ignore Pain: dont sems to work, had it running for 2 miss and didnt proc ones.

onlyones i have atm :)

Now after the fix to our procs it looks like they still don't work as intended. As said Bust Kneecaps complains about target not having enough ncu (my guess is that it tries to give the effect to the fighting target, but I might be wrong). Unruly Screen and Violation buffer I haven't been able to get to work. All type 2 procs (except one?) still have the "must have ranged weapon" kind of description.

I found two other bugs before the patch, but I haven't checked if they have been fixed. First of all Inspire Ire worked but made any type 1 proc running stop working. And then there is that slightly funny bug resulting in a cute mini enforcer. When having any of the challengers procs running in combination with mongo and normal challenger you would shrink to ant size in some circumstances (don't know exactly when).

shrug off blows: works ... ???

Ive been running this for 3 days now and havent seen the 280 shield proc one time..



nvm right after posting this it proced once for the first time still grinding atm ill keep watching, seem very low proc chance compared to Tear Ligaments ... this gos off almost every fight for me

I just had my armor reduced by 2k ish by some bug, will test and see if i can firgure it out.

Has anyone else had trouble with Tear Ligaments since the most recent patch? It used to go off all the time, but I haven't seen it activate once since the latest patch went out.

Ufthak

Ignore pain works, but it fired off only 2 times though during the whole mission. I only get type 2 to go off if no type 1 is running. think there is some kind of conflict between type 1 and type 2

cant turn of my Le perks anymore, and glory runs 24/7, tear ligaments cant proc anymore or just wont on me gets a "target dont have ncu blabla..." all the time, tryed uploading with me as target and targeting myself all the time and still cant get it to proc.

the NCU problems are because when funcom made them friendly, they didn't remove the 999 hostile ncu req deal.

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Originally Posted by ufthak

Has anyone else had trouble with Tear Ligaments since the most recent patch? It used to go off all the time, but I haven't seen it activate once since the latest patch went out.

Ufthak

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I've had it go off. But it is definitely a marked decrease than what I was experiencing before. On the flip side, shrug off hits seems to be going off about as often as tear ligaments used to. Like the two have switched proc chances :D even though they are supposed to be both 5%.

I always say, that's just probability for you. But it definitely feels 'off' regardless.

I have found something else that is kind of frustrating... It is not exactly a bug but it the challenger procs use the same icon as the ordinary challenger nanos, something which I think is highly annoying. The only chance to actually see the difference between Raging blow and the ordinary challenger is to try to catch the name in the popup in the ncu window. This, I have noticed, often leads to me recasting challenger when in fact it is Raging Blow that is about to terminate. It usually isn't a big deal to recast something, but since challenger has a nice little nano shutdown...

Anyway, I'm rambling... but please fix :)

just tested Bust Kneecaps. it is definately fubar on the NCU problem and thats with 400 ncu free.
Vile rage appears to be working. more to come later

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Originally Posted by Lumifly

I've had it go off. But it is definitely a marked decrease than what I was experiencing before. On the flip side, shrug off hits seems to be going off about as often as tear ligaments used to. Like the two have switched proc chances :D even though they are supposed to be both 5%.

I always say, that's just probability for you. But it definitely feels 'off' regardless.

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That would be because currently, the procs are bugged and the type1 and type2 do not stack (you can only have one or the other active in your NCU) - so its just random whether the type1 or type2 fires. Cancel shrug off hits, and tear ligaments will be running a lot more.

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Originally Posted by Remm

That would be because currently, the procs are bugged and the type1 and type2 do not stack (you can only have one or the other active in your NCU) - so its just random whether the type1 or type2 fires. Cancel shrug off hits, and tear ligaments will be running a lot more.

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Ok i have tested all the procs i have so far, this was done with no other nanos running at all so i could see what was going on all the time

Tear ligaments-working as intended.

Vile rage-working as intended.

Ignore pain- didnt see this go off once in about a five minute fight although i cannot come up with a reason.

Unruly screen-working as intended.

Shrug Off Hits-working as intended.

Bust Kneecaps- known hostile NCU bug.

Inspire Ire-working as intended. ( although that is very poorly anyway:)

Malicious rage-absolutely lovely and seems to be on a lot:)

As for the situation with only 1 proc working at a time i cannot confirm but it seemed to have a definate negative effect when i was testing initially.
Will update with the rest as i get them, hopefully before nexr weekend.

Shrug Off Hits- DELETE BIO COCCON (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Enforcer LE Research Action Bugs Summary
Here's every issue I've seen with our LE Actions.

Major Bug #1
Shrug Off Hits: Overrides Bio Cocoon
Shrug off hits overrides Bio Cocoon if Bio Cocoon is active despite Bio Cocoon being a better absorb shield. Bio Cocoon can make all the difference between life and death, so fixing this is rather important.

Major Bug #2
Bust Kneecaps: NCU Usage & Bad Command description.
The buff proc is not marked as IsHostile but is set to use 999 NCU, thus the message "Target has not enough NCU" appears whenever this proc fires and no effect happens. This bug prevents the proc from working at all.
Command description: In combat when wielding ranged weapons, you will occasionally increase your attack rating and damage output. Only one type 2 action can be selected at a time.

Major Bug #3
Ignore Pain: Bad Proc Action & Bad Command description & Bad Nano Description.
If you follow the command, you find that the actual proc nano action is Hit Self HealthCommand Description: 600-600Command Description: ColdAC. Not sure what the ColdAC does...
Command > Active Nano > Proc Action Nano.



Command Description Bugs
Command Description: In combat when wielding ranged weapons, you will occasionally raise a damage shield. Only one type 2 action can be selected at a time.
Active Nano Description: In combat when wielding melee weapons, you will occasionally raise a damage shield. This is a Type 2 action.
Proc Nano Description: In combat when wielding ranged weapons, you will occasionally restore a portion of your health.

Inspire Ire: Bad Command description
Command Description: In combat when wielding ranged weapons, you will occasionally anger your opponent so they may attack you in favor of others. Only one type 2 action can be selected at a time.

Unruly Screen: Bad Command description.
Command Description: In combat when wielding ranged weapons, you will occasionally raise a damage shield. Only one type 2 action can be selected at a time.

Violaton Buffer: Bad Command description.
Command Description: In combat when wielding ranged weapons, you will occasionally raise a damage shield. Only one type 2 action can be selected at a time.

Inspire Hate: Bad Command description.
In combat when wielding ranged weapons, you will occasionally anger your opponent so they may attack you in favor of others. Only one type 2 action can be selected at a time.

Hmm... I should update this, sort of forgot about it :o

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Originally Posted by Remm

That would be because currently, the procs are bugged and the type1 and type2 do not stack (you can only have one or the other active in your NCU) - so its just random whether the type1 or type2 fires. Cancel shrug off hits, and tear ligaments will be running a lot more.

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Indeed. After I read your post when you originally posted, I switched to just using tear ligaments, which now fires as often as I expected it to.

*sigh*

I thought we were out of beta :(

Im always running Tear Ligaments
and it work fine but once on a Pen mish my init (all of them) was all in the negatif, I dont know if that a bug with Tear Ligaments but it not fun tanking with that bug.